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Media inaccurately depicts itself as objective
The Chronicle (Duke U) ^ | 8/30/02 | Nathan Carleton

Posted on 08/31/2002 12:51:29 PM PDT by NorCoGOP

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1 posted on 08/31/2002 12:51:30 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: NorCoGOP
The most effective strategy I have seen Leftists use is to pose as objective moderates. This way, anyone who criticises them would be dismissed as "extremists."
2 posted on 08/31/2002 12:59:38 PM PDT by Commander8
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To: NorCoGOP
Free Republic is part of the media. Fox News is part of the media. Rush Limbaugh is part of the media. Larry Elder is part of the media.

In our country - with our technology - you can find any point of view which interests you; Left, Right, up, down, New Age, Biblical, etc.,etc.,etc. That's about as close to objective as human beings can achieve.

3 posted on 08/31/2002 1:02:00 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: NorCoGOP
Too bad no one told this scribe that "Media" is the plural of "Medium."

It distracts from this piece's veracity [And it is all True!] that its author doesn't seem to know -- or doesn't care [?] that "Media" is a "they" and not an "it."
4 posted on 08/31/2002 1:10:29 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: NorCoGOP
This also applies to Fox News. They advertise themselves as "fair and balanced" (and I'm sure that they believe they are), but come on! There's a whole host of conservative presenters with a token liberal here and there. How many times has Alan Colmes made a good argument? Sean slaughters him on most things. I'm not saying that its not a good service - I watch it regularly and enjoy it - but its a conservative news channel, end of story.
5 posted on 08/31/2002 1:17:04 PM PDT by Youngblood
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To: Youngblood
This also applies to Fox News. . . . . . .but its a conservative news channel, end of story.

Can you cite one example of a Fox News reporter "biasing" a news story?

Hannity and Colmes are commentators, not reporters.

I repeat: Can you cite one example of a Fox News reporter "biasing" a news story?

6 posted on 08/31/2002 1:28:05 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Youngblood
"Conservative" compared to WHAT?

FNC goes it alone among the news networks. Every other network, mainstream or cable, is blatantly, unapologetically LIBERAL.

And because Fox hasn't joined the club, that makes them CONSERVATIVE?

Sorry. I don't buy it.

Incidentally, could you please name the "conservative" counterparts on the other networks to these Fox News liberals:

Greta Van Susteren

Juan Williams

Mara Eliasson

ALAN COLMES (now that you mention it)

Geraldo Rivera

Let's see...ABC has George Will.

Shucks. Guess I'll have to get back to you when I can think of some more.

7 posted on 08/31/2002 1:29:18 PM PDT by daler
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To: liberallarry
Free Republic is part of the media. Fox News is part of the media. Rush Limbaugh is part of the media. Larry Elder is part of the media.

True, but to put a few conservative radio commentators and columnists and one cable network up against the vast reaches of the New York Times (and 1000 NYT wannabes throughout the country), Rather, Brokaw and Jennings as well as CNN and MSNBC and the many, many liberal TV commentators and colunminsts is absurd.

When the average TV viewer sees Dan Rather claiming that Bill Clinton is an honest man, a lot of those viewers are still unaware that Rather is a liberal of long standing and sees Clinton through that politically liberal filter. On the other hand, no one misunderstands that Rush Limbaugh is a conservative commentator.

The piece doesn't say you can't get another slant on the news, simply that the majority of the news and comment available is slanted liberal and also comes with a profit motive attached.

That's an honest representation of the facts and a few exceptions such as FOX and Rush Limbaugh make the liberal domination of the media even more noticable.

8 posted on 08/31/2002 1:35:12 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: jackbill
.....Can you cite one example of a Fox News reporter "biasing" a news story?....

Every morning E D Hill blathers on and on about Saudi Arabia. She is an educated person but is clueless about the Saudi's. She knows what the folks who pay her want advanced so she carries on and on.

This same bias is evident in "My Word" Commentary. John is totaly anti Saudi biased and also clueless, even when flat out told by his guests he ignores what he heard.

9 posted on 08/31/2002 1:38:41 PM PDT by bert
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E. D. knows as much about Saudi as anyone else commenting on the subject. BTW, John has admitted to staying on the Saudi case because he thinks they're liars hurting this country and he's NOT a reporter he's a commentator.
10 posted on 08/31/2002 1:49:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: NorCoGOP
The real problem is that today's elite media considers themselves to be neutral observers of history instead of Americans with really powerful jobs.

They forget that if they were anywhere else, they wouldn't get to do the things that they do. Instead, they routinely bite the hand that feeds them. That's why you'll see such media idiocy as having the American media on the beaches of Somalia with floodlights on in order to broadcast the surprise landings of American marines going into Mogadishu.

Journalists first, Americans second.

-PJ

11 posted on 08/31/2002 1:54:13 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: NorCoGOP
In the midst of an analysis of poitical bias in the media, the Duke U. Chronicle writes: "politics is so personal and important that it is impossible [...] to objectively analyze a conflict".
12 posted on 08/31/2002 2:07:59 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: NorCoGOP
Now, there is definitely not a conspiracy here. The media does not plot to get Democrats elected.

Say what? That's about as unbelievable a statement as I have ever heard.

13 posted on 08/31/2002 2:23:27 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Jim Scott
The profit motive speaks for itself.

Talk radio is dominated by conservatives. There are respected newspapers and magazines which are conservative. If your point is that conservative voices are drowned by the overwhelming blare of liberals, you're wrong.

If you're point is that many liberals cannot be reached, you're right. You can lead a horse to water... You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time....

The last time I looked most people grow up with their politics and their religion and die with them. It takes exceptional circumstances and exceptional people to change that. Fortunately, there are enough of them.

14 posted on 08/31/2002 3:17:18 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Jim Scott
By the way, I've been posting here for a year and I'm still not convinced that Clinton is an unprincipled rogue.

It's not easy to change basic political positions - nor should it be.

15 posted on 08/31/2002 3:28:31 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Cicero
"That's about as unbelievable a statement as I have ever heard."

The author's view is, I believe, that the media constitute a group of like-minded people who are impelled to "do the right thing"...as they see it.

A "conspiracy" connotes plotting and scheming to "do the wrong thing". So far as the media is concerned, though, they are not conspiring, they are simply doing -- each in their own way -- what civic-minded people should be doing.

As if they were all Kiwanians building a ballpark for underprivileged children...

Personally, I believe this interpretation might be giving the media elite too much credit, but it's a valid construction.

16 posted on 08/31/2002 3:35:47 PM PDT by okie01
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To: liberallarry
Larry, you're probably going to have to get that other oar in the water if you want to be taken seriously.
17 posted on 08/31/2002 3:46:11 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso
I'm a retired ocean life-guard. I've had lots of experience navigating with one oar, or none.
18 posted on 08/31/2002 3:52:43 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Radio and Magazines are easier for a small company or firm to make a profit out of. While Newspapers have a hard time producing a profit, and Television news needs the far reaching network across the world to keep up with the minute to minute news stories the other stations have.

Hence, Newspapers and Television media are owned exclusivly by large conglomerates. They tend to be more liberal and drown out conservative voices. Maybe keeping a few RINOs as their token conservatives.

While Radio and Magazines tend to be more conservative since it is easier for small companies to produce a profit.

Think about it, take Fox News out of the equation and who is there left? Novak? Keyes is gone.

Take out the Wall Street Journal and Washingtion Times and who is left? Nobody.
19 posted on 08/31/2002 8:35:21 PM PDT by chudogg
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To: chudogg
True.

But we have a conservative President. Reagan was elected not too long ago. Where do their voters get their news? It can't be too difficult to find conservative views.

Of course, you can always argue that Reagan was an anomaly, that what you usually get are RINO's of one flavor or another. But the Left has the same problem. That's the way our system works. It's not the fault of bias in the major media.

20 posted on 08/31/2002 9:41:01 PM PDT by liberallarry
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