Posted on 09/03/2002 1:10:11 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
It can't be. But I will predict for you (you heard it here) that gay activists will NEVER be satisfied with anything scouts does, short of condoning homosexuality in all its facets, repudiating anyone who has religious beliefs proscribing homosexual conduct, allowing scouts to engage in homosexual sex once above the age of consent, etc. etc. You make a move on local option. They'll applaud and then start attacking again. Scouts has actually done quite well. They've staved off the homosexual onslaught without significantly denting their ranks, without being mean or divisive, and by simply stating and upholding their moral convictions.
From what I understand from reading articles and such (though I don't know the details), a majoirty of members of the national Boy Scout board in Great Britain pushed though a resolution a couple of years ago allowing homosexual scoutmasters and scouts. No debate was heard prior to the vote. Immediately in the aftermath, there was a schism in the organization, with a little under 1/2 forming a new scouting organization which banned homosexual scoutmasters. So, basically, as I understand it, there are two separate scout organizations in Great Britain.
The policy is that no 'avowed' (i.e. known) homosexuals are allowed. The Boy Scouts recognizes that it can't know who is homosexual if someone wants to hide that. But if it becomes apparent that they are, they're out. It thus also means that any kind of homosexual behavior in front of the boys is not tolerated.
It isn't self deception. Not in all cases, anyway.
Left-wing tolerance" and "diversity" rhetoric is NOT about "tolerance" OR "diversity" : it's about creating "discord" for the purpose of "controlling" the masses.
Well, in the US, the Boy Scouts membership is slowly increasing. In the wake of the homosexual controversy, it's estimated that it lost a couple of % in otherwise-membership in the last couple of years. This squares with the Cub pack and Boy Scout troop in our area, where out of some 130 families or so, we lost about three directly as result of this issue. But also, the membership in the troops in our town has suddenly accelerated, to the point where we've had to add a fourth troop in our town. Personally, I think there were just a few families who felt strongly that Boy Scouts should allow homosexual scoutmasters. Then there were some who just didn't want to be associated with the controversy (especially since a homosexual group in our town was paiting everyone who disagreed with them as 'haters' and 'bigots.' Now that those families see that the vast majority simply rejects the homosexual demands, they are coming back. I can tell you that no one in our town (that I know of) 'hates' homosexuals. Most subscribe to the live-and-let-live ethic. But the vast, vast majority of parents in our town (suburban New Jersey) are (rightfully) concerned about homosexual molestation issues, do not want homosexual behavior modeled for their teenage sons (like men talking about other men in a sexual attraction way, or kissing partners in front of their kids), and do not want homosexual ideology promoted to their kids (men having anal sex with men is perfectly normal, etc.). This is not hate, just common sense. Finally, many in our community have honest religious objections to homosexual behavior. So, in the end, Boy Scouts, in my mind, has fared very well through all of this. Without being 'hateful' and constantly repeating that it respects others' points of view, the scouts has held firm, received the imprimatur of the Supreme Court, has received the support of Congress to be able to meet in schools, and has still has a growing membership. That's not bad. Homosexual groups have done themselves a great harm in promoting homosexual scoutmasters. It's stupid on their part. They need to be tolerant toward others as they demand that others be toward them.
I personally would prefer that they adopt such a system. I don't believe there's any good reason for a homosexual to be a scoutmaster - and there are lots of good reasons for them not to be. I do not ever want my sons to have a homosexual scoutmaster. The scouts' policy is already a compromise policy, saying essentially that if you're homosexual and feel so strongly that you want to be involved with other peoples' teenage boys, then OK - as long as you keep it to yourself - in every way. But of course that doesn't satisfy the homosexuals. There are many homosexual molestors (Boy Scouts had a huge problem with such before implementing its current policies - no avowed homosexuals, warning films to all scouts, never one adult allowed alone with kids, etc.), and many homosexuals are just champing at the bit to get into scouts to 'normalize' homosexuality and to get young men 'comfortable' with it. Most parents say: NO WAY.
Exactly. You can do whatever you want in your home. But homosexuals have no intrinsic right to be involved in the raising of my sons and to take them on overnight campouts with parents absent. Period.
Yeah, it was. But scouts also puts a premium on having scoutmasters and fathers involved who model being good husbands and fathers, and who model basic masculinity. A lot of the kids on my sons' troop come from broken families; some have emotionally abusive parents; some have serious confidence problems. Strong male role models for these kids does them a world of good.
Fair enough. But I believe it is mandatory to offer to kids and parents the option of watching "A Time to Tell." And it is an essential tool, in my opinion, for helping kids to beware of homosexual molestors. Of course, it is extremely sad and disheartening that kids should need to be exposed to such.
You bet. The goal of the diversity-mongers is not to get you to tolerate others and to respect their beliefs (which is something the Boy Scouts assiduously teaches), but rather to force you to accept the idea that anything is just as good as anything else (like the idea that man-to-man anal intercourse is just a 'good' as normal sexuality, or that a belief in God is just as 'good' as no belief in God, etc. etc.). The diversity-mongers want to force you to say that nothing you believe is right or good, and that you should not have the temerity to defend your beliefs as such. They want anything to be acceptable (even with regard to your kids), and they brand you with horrible epithets should you have the guts to disagree. Well, the Boy Scouts disagrees (and has had the guts to do so). The Boy Scouts does believe that certain things are better than others, and they promote those things. That drives the intolerant diversity-mongers into fits of craze.
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