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A government limited to what?
The Union Leader ^ | 9/04/04 | Jack Kenny

Posted on 09/04/2002 11:06:40 AM PDT by RJCogburn

“LIMITED GOVERNMENT.” We hear that conservative mantra a lot, especially at election time. Shake a tree in southern New Hampshire this campaign season and chances are at least one Republican candidate for Congress will fall out, proclaiming “limited government” three times before touching the ground.

Its counterpart is never heard. No one campaigns, at least not openly, for unlimited, or absolutist, government. No, it’s always “limited government.” Limited government today, limited government tomorrow, limited government forever!

Somehow we never seem to wonder why, after years of electing candidates sworn to “limited government,” the government keeps growing in size and cost. The federal government is bigger and, at $2 trillion-plus and rising, a good deal costlier now than it was just seven years ago, when Republicans took control of Congress in the “Republican Revolution.” It’s bigger and costlier than it was six years ago when that poster child for decadent liberalism, William J. Clinton, announced to the nation: “The era of big government is over.” Big government must have missed the news.

No one seems to notice that this “limited government” gag is as transparent as the emperor’s new clothes. We prefer not to notice, really. It’s a lot easier to just go on believing in “limited government” and voting for those who say they do, too. The amazing thing is, we never even ask what ought to be the most obvious question: Limited to what?

Perhaps there was a time when Americans could assume, if they thought about it at all, that “limited government” meant a federal government that would do only those things it is authorized to do by powers granted in our federal Constitution. But “limited government” has been taken off the Constitution standard, just as the dollar was long ago taken off the gold standard. Limits on federal power have, like the value of the currency, been allowed to “float.” And they’re still floating.

Consider, for example, the two members of Congress now competing in New Hampshire for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate, Sen. Bob Smith and Rep. John Sununu. Each comes to the voters with impressive conservative credentials. Both get high ratings from all the right organizations. They get Friend of the Taxpayer Awards and ratings above 90 percent from organizations like the American Conservative Union and Citizens Against Government Waste. They’re both “A” students, which suggests the currency isn’t the only thing that’s been inflated.

In their televised debate last week, Smith and Sununu sparred over a “prescription drug benefit” as an expansion of Medicare. Neither spoke of the need to rein in the bureaucracy and streamline the approval process at the Food and Drug Administration, so the drugs might be less costly to produce. (Time is money, after all.) Each defended his vote in favor of the Bush-Kennedy-Gregg “education reform,” the No Child Left Behind Act, that allegedly increases local control in 1,184 pages of federal legislation. The scary part is that people who live and work in Washington can actually believe such nonsense.

In our Constitution of delegated powers, there is not one that remotely gives Congress any authority at all over the education of schoolchildren. So the only “education reform” conservatives should be championing, and the one way to truly increase local control, is the abolition of all federal education programs. But why do that when you can pass nearly 1,200 pages of federal rules and regulations to make local schools “more accountable”?

Smith charged that Sununu, having once pledged to support the abolition of the National Endowment for the Arts, “voted with the Democrats” to fund the agency. There are, alas, more than a few Republicans who have voted for that funding, as Smith well knows. And Smith lists among his accomplishments the securing of $500,000 of federal money for the renovation of the Palace Theatre in Manchester. Whether that money came from the NEA or some other agency, the principle is the same. Between them, these two men apparently see the subsidizing of artistic productions and the renovation of a local theater as federal concerns. And these are two of the most conservative members of the U.S. Congress.

Today, with a $2 trillion budget (in deficit by a $165 billion or so), being “conservative” means you never have to say, “We’re out of money.” A representative or senator could say, if so inclined, that there is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes Congress to spend money on artistic productions or theater renovations. But even the most conservative members of Congress are more likely to be struck by lightning than by a thought of the Constitution. Perhaps it’s just as well.

The lightning might do some good.

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To: Askel5; OKCSubmariner
"This farm bill will cost the average American taxpaying family $4,300 in higher taxes." - Thanks George
21 posted on 09/05/2002 1:40:23 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5
BUSH'S COURT JESTER - "The man charged by President Bush with screening potential U.S. Supreme Court justice nominees believes the Constitution is a living document"

More Limited Government

22 posted on 09/05/2002 1:52:02 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5; OKCSubmariner; Donald Stone
Recycling Bad Government
"Many of Bush's Cabinet members, for example, used to criticize the size and scope of Washington's power. But now they preside over many of those same agencies. And now, each of those agencies have grown larger and more powerful in the few years these careerists have been back in town.

Now do you know why, despite our system of "checks and balances," few in positions of power are ever held accountable for misbehavior, misdeeds, high crimes and misdemeanors?

Perhaps now GOP conservatives understand why they are increasingly frustrated, disappointed and disenfranchised with the "Grand Ol' Party?" In reality, there isn't much difference between them and liberal Democrats – each spend freely, limit personal freedom and derail liberty.

Is it any wonder why lawmakers refuse to hold agency heads responsible for their failures – even failures as deadly and serious as Waco, Oklahoma City and 9-11? Who can prosecute a member of "the club?"

The fact is, regardless of the stated "political philosophy" of any given administration, nothing really ever changes in Washington, D.C. And it's because many of the most powerful people in our government are nothing more than recycled public servants.

It's The Elite Who Are Corrupt
"So the individuals who occupy these 7,000 positions of power are the elite who run the country. Therefore, it is the character of these members of the elite that will determine the character of the country. What you see in government policies, in cultural products and in education policies are the direct result of the decisions made by this relatively small elite.

History affirms this. The reason America did not follow the usual path of revolution to dictatorship was solely the result of the character of one man, George Washington. Washington could have easily made himself dictator, and many of the officers in his army wanted him to do just that. But Washington's character would not allow it.

When the elite who run a country have good morals and high standards, then you have a good country. If the elite become corrupt, you have a corrupt country. The vulgarity, profanity and violence you see in entertainment are there only because those individuals occupying the positions of power in the entertainment industry said "Yes." If they said "No," those things would disappear from the screens and the magazine racks.

Our problem is that most of our elite have become corrupted. Many are nihilistic and hedonistic. The leadership of a country always leads the masses, and they can lead them to high ground or into the swamps. And there's not much I can see that ordinary people can do about it."

"The difference between death and taxes is death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
Will Rogers

23 posted on 09/06/2002 1:35:45 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5; Twodees
Bush Out Of Control, Can't Help Self - Requests $1 billion in added spending (AIDS, humanitarian assistance to Palestinians,etc.) - September 5, 2002

New Study on Antiterror Spending Is Fodder for Rival Camps - September 6, 2002
"Brian M. Riedl, a fellow at the Heritage Foundation, the conservative research group, said the four fiscal years through 2003 were on track to be one of the periods of the highest spending in American history and that there was so far little political pressure to curb spending on either national security or social programs.

"Republicans and Democrats basically make a deal with each other — `I'll vote for your increase if you'll vote for my increase,"' Mr. Riedl said. "As long as voters don't seem intent on punishing politicians for budget deficits, both parties feel they are in the clear."

"If the Congress won't show spending restraint, I intend to enforce spending restraint," - George W. Bush - September 3, 2002

Bush makes government more limited, Americans love socialism. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum keeps their hearts thumping for more

24 posted on 09/06/2002 2:54:29 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5; Twodees
Bush Loves Clinton Plan - "Bush did not dismantle his predecessor's national service initiative, AmeriCorps, but has called for its expansion from 50,000 to 75,000 full-time paid volunteers."

Limiting government with "paid" volunteers. Huh?

25 posted on 09/06/2002 3:01:40 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
From the thread two years ago:

To: Kobyashi1942 Kobayashi wrote: "When all my Republican friends are crying in their milk on the day after the election I will remind them that there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between the winner, Gore and the neo-socialist G.W. Bush. " And when Gore appoints three Supreme Court Justices who will continue to devalue life and federalize more and more government, I will remind you that there WAS a difference between Bush and Gore. 6 Posted on 09/06/2000 08:17:29 PDT by sinkspur [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ]

Now that Bush has shown he would do the same even before he gets a chance to appoint anyone to the Supreme Court, this will be forgotten, I suppose.

26 posted on 09/06/2002 3:16:47 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
Yep, I suppose. I read that earlier. That's why I posted #22.

On another issue, did you see this?

POLL - (3,657) - Should the IRS arrest people who don't file income-tax returns? - No, income tax is a fraud on the American people - 54.31% (1986)


27 posted on 09/06/2002 3:38:44 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: RJCogburn
Somehow we never seem to wonder why, after years of electing candidates sworn to “limited government,” the government keeps growing in size and cost.

I wondered for many years and then the answer came to me about ten years ago. Republicans "buy" votes too.

28 posted on 09/06/2002 3:53:43 AM PDT by Dawgsquat
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To: Uncle Bill
Nice work as always Bill.
29 posted on 09/06/2002 3:58:24 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: Uncle Bill; Joe Montana; mssnoop
BUMP !!!!!

30 posted on 09/06/2002 7:08:25 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Uncle Bill
Thanks. I'm bookmarking some of this for later perusal. Not enough hours in the day to do all the reading I want to do. ;-)
31 posted on 09/06/2002 6:27:31 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Uncle Bill; Askel5; Inspector Harry Callahan
Uncle Bill bump!
32 posted on 09/06/2002 6:36:40 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: RJCogburn
33 posted on 09/06/2002 6:55:24 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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34 posted on 09/07/2002 3:59:08 AM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hi Harry.

Professional firearms trainers Dr. Ignatius Piazza Offers To Train Airline Pilots For Free - Bush Administration Wants To Spend Another Billion Dollars To Facilitate "Limited Government"

Iraq war to carry a high tab: 100 billion dollars

Real Budget Deficit $400 Billion, not $165 Billion

Egypt Promised $10.3 Billion in Aid

That'll Be $43 Billion For the Next Three Minutes

$26 Billion More For Failing Schools

What Do You Want To Be When You Grow Up? A New York Janitor - Salary $126,887

Hill GOP now wants $40 billion for schools

Have You Ever Received Anything At All From The Government? No? Well, The Illegal Aliens Are Raking In 24 Billion A Year

George W. Bush and the GOP, working towards limited government

35 posted on 09/07/2002 1:59:40 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill; NMC EXP
"The surest way to bust this economy is to increase the role and the size of the federal government." - George W. Bush

Bush Spending Bill Largest Ever

Bush Signs Largest Family Planning Bill In U.S. History

The Bush M.O.

Meanwhile, Back On The Farm

36 posted on 09/07/2002 5:19:39 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Uncle Bill
You know Unc, the elite really have the sheep figured out. They can't lose with Bush in there. Very few folks around my neck of the woods are aware of this huge pork spending. I think I'll print some of these articles off and show them to some of the people I run into throughout the day.

I mean, come on... Were giving Egypt ten point three BILLION dollars? Sheesh! A billion here, a billion there. Pretty soon you start talking about some real money.

37 posted on 09/07/2002 5:34:51 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: steve50
Good thing they don't teach history anymore

I got kids in them there G-schools and you would be surprised what passes for history these days.

More is taught about America's place in the World Commune(ity) than our own history. When our own history is taught it is about slavery and the stealing of Texas, etc.

Such tripe as this exercise is taught, "Imagine your a girl in India. Describe what you would wear and what you would eat. Extra points will be given to all children who bring food that is eaten in India."

How sweet,

38 posted on 09/07/2002 5:35:37 PM PDT by Cato
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To: RJCogburn; Uncle Bill
Thanks for the post, links. The business at hand is to get the Democratic Crime Syndicate out of all offices. Next is to hold conservative/constitutional/Republicans feet to the fire by propelling Freepers to run for government office if necessary. President Bush and the current administration have gone after more enemies...foreign and domestic than any in my lifetime...and because these are the biggest threats to freedom, I have to give them the highest marks for their efforts. Having said that I thank you for your links Uncle Bill. They are very powerful.
39 posted on 09/07/2002 6:44:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan; Uncle Bill
But Harry, he must convince the "base" that the urine dripping from it's back is actually rain in order to:

- appoint republican judges.

- insure election of a republican majority in the house.

- insure election of a veto proof filibuster proof republican majority in the senate.

Once republicans are in control of every elective and appointed office nation wide right down to dog catcher, things will get better. Just'll see.

Until then you gotta understand that you just don't understand the finer points of politics....compromise and sucking up to those democrats and all. It takes a real man to ignore his principles and wallow around in the dung heap of public service. Us mere mortals are not up to the task of comprehending it, much less doing it, don't ya know.


40 posted on 09/07/2002 7:45:55 PM PDT by NMC EXP
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