Primary Problems for Dems - The breakdown of the black-Jewish alliance

NRO ^ | September 6, 2002 | Edward B. Miller

[mhking]

Unlike us, most people (of all demographic groups) are not ideological; neither liberal or conservative. They watch football, sitcoms, Bart Simpson. They vote for whom they think their friends are. Knock door to door for your candidate. Don't write off any demographic group. BE FRIENDLY to all your voters.

Bless you, my friend - you see the light...

[Aunt Polgara]

Part of the problem is that when conservatives do try to reach out to the Black community, the media ignores or ridicules them. For instance, for those of you who live in CA, did you see this picture of gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon anywhere in your newspaper?

I thought not.

Another example, former Congressman Jim Rogan went to a meeting of Black leaders in his district during his unsuccessful campaign for reelection and made the very true statement that being pro-choice is a racist position. Black babies are aborted at a much higher proportion than any other race. Most abortion clinics are in poor, largely minority communities. While many pro-choice whites claim that they, themselves would NEVER have an abortion, abortion needs to be kept available for those who "need" it. Hmmm... can you guess who they would say "need" abortion? Could it be the poor, who are disproportionately minority?

You can imagine the reception he got with those statements. In fact, he was called racist for even saying them.

[claptrap]

The writer misses one important fact, which is Democrats are anti-freedom, as are moderate republicans, Democrats are filthy scum who hate Christ ( thats probably why the jews identify with them ). Blacks are drawn into the muslim gutter
by their hate for everything white. Ill go even further Democrats secretly hope for the destruction of America thats
why they insist on killing unborn children, spreading sexual immorality to children , defending child molestors, calling for the early release of criminals, in short Democrats are the willing tools of Satan they are after all liars and
Jesus called Satan the father of lies so they are his children!

[mhking]

While many pro-choice whites claim that they, themselves would NEVER have an abortion, abortion needs to be kept available for those who "need" it. Hmmm... can you guess who they would say "need" abortion? Could it be the poor, who are disproportionately minority? You can imagine the reception he got with those statements. In fact, he was called racist for even saying them.

Part of the key is not only being there, but being there in a visible, genuine, truthful way.

If you hemmed the pro-choice candidates into a corner, you'd get exactly what you've cited above.

Back to Bill Simon and his photo-op, his overall problem is that he's flipped and flopped more than one of those Chinese snakehead fish on the banks of the Patuxent River. His image is one who would do anything to succeed. One who would grasp at straws. Has he done anything else in the black community? Has he gone to black businesses to discuss urban redevelopment? Has he gone to black churches to talk about the moral wrongs of abortion? No. As a result, the photo is seen as purely a publicity stunt in an attempt to salvage his campaign.

If you're going to do this, you can't do a half-assed job and hope you're not called on it. You'll be ignored and discarded faster than a loaf of bread with mold on it.

[Aunt Polgara]

Has he done anything else in the black community? Has he gone to black businesses to discuss urban redevelopment?

Actually, he has done plenty all over this state, long before he even thought of becoming a candidate. He has spent millions in philanthropy to help those who need help.

Part of the problem is that GOP candidates are looked at with suspicion in the black community. Our candidates need good black conservatives like YOU to give them a proper introduction into the black communities, but many black conservatives are afraid of being called Uncle Toms (or worse) for having anything to do with pubbies.

Let me ask you this. What have YOU done to help GOPers get traction in the black community?

[rdb3]

Part of the problem is that GOP candidates are looked at with suspicion in the black community. Our candidates need good black conservatives like YOU to give them a proper introduction into the black communities, but many black conservatives are afraid of being called Uncle Toms (or worse) for having anything to do with pubbies.

Let me ask you this. What have YOU done to help GOPers get traction in the black community?

No, that's not it.

I can't speak for mhking. He and I have never met. But I can tell you about me.

It is far too easy to marginalize a sole voice like mine. Now, don't get it twisted. I can hold my own with anybody. But the voice of one is shouted down by the voices of the very, very many.

So we need to flip the script. There are not enough mhkings or Trueblackmans or mafrees to do the job solely on our own. We need the GOP candidates to show themselves to where we speak to not only throw a monkeywrench into the predictable Democrat spin, but also to validate what conservative blacks such as myself have been saying.

If we campaign at the grassroots, yet the candidate we support does not show his or her face, we look like complete useful idiots, sold-out and foolish.

I'm not accusing you of anything, but let's not play the RATS' game. Race doesn't matter when it comes down to disseminating the conservative message. It stands on its own, regardless of who is saying it.

But Aunt Polgara, conservative blacks like me are always outnumbered, and always outgunned. We, and I say it unashamedly, need your help.

[Southack]

"I have no problem working hard at the grass-roots level. But I've got to be certain that the candidate on whose behalf I'm working won't sell me out. That means he or she can't leave me hanging. He or she had better bring their John Brown hindparts down where I am and do some campaigning."

Precisely, and the way that we insure that you aren't left hanging is all in the recruitment process. Picking candidates who are IN the trenches fighting the good fight will work on a much greater percentage than picking candidates who just look good on paper. Oh sure, they've got the "right" educational background, are published, speak in the right lecture circuits, get good media time, etc., but if they haven't been working in the trenches, then all of that "pedigree" means jack squat.

What we have to do is to convince the Republican mini-elites, i.e. those VERY few soles who have such a disproportionate impact on "who" runs for office, that they need to look away from just the same-old type of candidate who is putting in his time going to the county Republican Party committee meetings (not that seniority should be overlooked, but we've focused too much on seniority and "putting in your dues" and we've neglected the whole football-style recruitment process where you send your recruiters out to FIND the talent).

I mean, hey, Jack Kemp is a GREAT conservative and all, but come on, what does he know about the 5th Ward in Houston (or better question, what do they "know" about him)?!

[rdb3]

So you're saying that the candidates themselves must be likened to a soldier like me, right?

If my main don't open wide...

I love a good fight for a good cause. But don't expect me to run. I don't have the right temperment. No sense in me lying.

Maybe I'll try in 10 years when I turn 40.

But anyway, yeah, you're right. He or she has to be willing to get in the trenches with me. Then I'll fight tooth and nail for 'em.

[mhking]

Part of the problem is that GOP candidates are looked at with suspicion in the black community. Our candidates need good black conservatives like YOU to give them a proper introduction into the black communities, but many black conservatives are afraid of being called Uncle Toms (or worse) for having anything to do with pubbies. Let me ask you this. What have YOU done to help GOPers get traction in the black community?

You'll get no argument from me. We as conservative blacksare the ones to give the introduction. We provide an entre to the community. We also have a personal responsibility to live the most upstanding and righteous lives possible. By doing so, we show people that we are not the "evil" people that the left would have you believe.

I am very vocal. I am very accessable. I am very visible.

For Project 21, I write a monthly column. My writings appear in more than 400 papers nationwide - many of them black papers. I am working to do even more.

Have I been called vicious names? Without question. Have I received grief from family and friends and others? Yes. But I belive in what I preach. And while many try to marginalize me and mine, many others are willing to at least listen to me with an open mind. More oft than not, when removed from the emotional rabble-ism (is that a word? it is now...) that pervades political discussions in the black community, many people will agree with the issues from whence I speak. And that is the first - and usually hardest - step.

[MoJo2001]

I agree with your assessment!

[TheRightGuy]

The Democratic congressional leadership has taken for granted Jewish support for so long

Jews you can use?

[Aunt Polgara]

Thanks for all of your efforts. I can only imagine how hard it must be. Especially when the media puts up people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and their ilk as spokesmen for Blacks.

They barely give the Walter Williams, Thomas Sowells or Mason Weavers the time of day. And forget Clarence Thomas, probably the most influential Black in America today.

[mafree]

I think some misconstrue what it means to do "outreach" to Blacks or any other group. It's very easy to come across as patronizing when trying to reach out to groups you have a history of limited knowledge/contact with. It's very easy to assume that "outreach" means you have to do/give folks certain things based on what you believe they want and like.

Black folks don't need sequins, dancing girls, or any other superficial things to be attracted to the GOP- we need to be treated like intelligent people with needs.

Also, Blacks and Jews are by no means the only ones who vote based on emotions- everyone does it. Who hasn't voted for some candidate or another based on what he/she promised to do about crime? Fear of crime is just that- fear. In case no one noticed, fear is an emotion.

[rdb3]

In case no one noticed, fear is an emotion.

Yes. And an easily manipulated one at that.

[thegreatbeast]

Seriously, how would you perform this outreach? What would you have the republicans do?
Denial is a powerful thing. If people, or a group of people, don't want what you are selling, then you are not going to sell it to them. A very large portion of the Blacks in America have bought into the Democrat folderol. Logic and appeals to their own self-interests will avail you nothing. How do you break the pattern then?

[T Lady]

A very large portion of the Blacks in America have bought into the Democrat folderol. Logic and appeals to their own self-interests will avail you nothing. How do you break the pattern then?

It will probably take at least a generation or two to break the insidious hold the 'RATS have on Black people as whole. Too many, like a younger friend of mine, have been brainwashed by the university system in this country, that Diversity (how I loathe the word) is only applicable to the way one looks, as opposed to one's political affiliation. No matter if you present unrefutable truths to them, such as the evils of abortion, and the systematic disenfranchisement of Blacks by the Envionuts (Greenpeace, Sierra Club, etc.), they still refuse to accept any other views that haven't come from their friendly neighborhood Leftist professor. And of course, let's not forget the truth-as-gospel presented by our favorite Race Warlords; even today when I was reading, word for word, a piece by John K. Carlisle on Smart Growth, and how the likes of the Sierra Club were literally trying to screw this elderly Black woman out of farmland that had been in her husband's family for 130 years, all my friend could ask is "so trying to have a clean environment is bad?" Nevermind the fact that this woman's private property was being stolen from her! No other viewpoint is readily accepted by university-educated people.

And this is definitely an uphill battle. I am probably one of at least a dozen Republicans at my church; no one has yet tried to run us out, but we still have to keep somewhat of a low profile.

As for the Republican Party itself, it IS time to get real, to go into the minority neighborhoods to townhall meetings, to answer the tough questions and try to present feasible solutions, not sound bites. I e-mailed a FreePer here not long before I joined and said Repubs have to make themselves more accessible to people, not hide away in high-maintenance Ivory Towers with manicured lawns. Go to Downtown San Diego and hold fundraisers or meetings, as opposed to La Jolla or Del Mar.

Not exactly a ready-made solution, but TIME is definitely of the essence.

[mafree]

Seriously, how would you perform this outreach? What would you have the republicans do?

For starters, they can be more visible in the Black community. (Granted, the Dummycrat Party structure could be seen a little more often here too, but they don't have to be here as much to get Black votes.) Go to Black community events, speak out more often on issues affecting the Black community, heck, even set up an office in the community whose door is open to the people there. Advertise in Black media at times other than elections. Have Republican leaders available to discuss/debate issues, be on panels, etc.

This is not pandering- it's cultivating a market. Anyone who thinks a market is worth grabbing will at least try.

[mafree]

Going downtown is a good idea. I also think there's much hope with younger Blacks- they are more independent. It'd also be wise to take advantage of some current discontent some Blacks have with the DimocRATS.

[rdb3]

This is not pandering- it's cultivating a market. Anyone who thinks a market is worth grabbing will at least try.

Exactly.

Like I said before, conservatives couldn't sell a cold soda to a thirsty man on a 105-degree day.

Nothing sells itself in this marketing/advertising driven society of ours. If you have something, you have to make the case to the people. Otherwise, they'll pass you by.

[mafree]

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