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Prescription Drugs May Trigger Killing
Insight Magazine ^
| Sept. 2, 2002
| Kelly Patricia O'Meara
Posted on 09/06/2002 9:48:37 PM PDT by Chewy
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posted on
09/06/2002 9:48:38 PM PDT
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Chewy
To: Chewy
Even if it was the drugs, I still blame the parents for not taking proper care for their children.
It's time the parents of America start living up to their responsibilities.
To: Chewy
medicine is scary now-a-days because some evil doctors put people on medication because they want more money, not because the person needs it. And then the person begins to BELIEVE that the medicine is what makes him better, but really there was no problem in the first place and no need for medication (it happened to my brother.)
To: Chewy
Sounds like round 2...first round, tobacco...second round, pharaceuticals...third round: Lead Based Paint?
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posted on
09/06/2002 10:04:26 PM PDT
by
demsux
To: Chewy
"Prescription Drugs May Trigger Killing."Bull***t!
Two rotten little creeps did the killing! We need to wake up and face that fact!
To: blackbart.223
Prescription Drugs May Trigger Killing."Prescription Drugs Don't Kill People, People Kill People.
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posted on
09/06/2002 10:10:01 PM PDT
by
demsux
To: demsux
"Prescription Drugs Don't Kill People, People Kill People."Amen!
To: Chewy
I'm sorry but f* lawyers!!!! This Tracy is something called a "biological psychologist"; Marks is toiler in the field, a microbiologist. Neither one of them could suscribe so much as prescription strength ibuprofen to you. They are hired guns.
"Tracy continues, "Beyond the adverse reactions listed about Luvox, one of the first clues I had that these boys were on
antidepressants was when it was made public that Eric [Harris] and Dylan Klebold had both been in anger-management
classes. Anger-management classes equal antidepressants."
Well, Christ, I hope so! Some little punk about ready to motor around in a ton or two of steel has anger problems? Damn well better get him some help! Anti-depressents are certainly in order. Luvox is not the first depressent most doctors would prescribe so these kids had probably tried other drugs before this.
Notice the citations from the PDR? Without explanation, the use of words like "Frequent" and "Infrequent" would make you think that these drugs would be taken to hopefully induce the conditions cited in the various catagories of frequency. It's sort of like inflammable being taken for the opposite of flammable. If these drugs were dangerous to a significant percentage of the population then they would not be on the market. Drugs are not a "one size fits all" proposition.
These kids needed treatment. They were wastrels devoid of values. They were processed through the Anger Management courses because to do otherwise would have opened another set of people open to litigation.
And if the doctors treating deadheads hadn't prescribed anti-depressents for the bastards then you can be sure that they would be subject to suit in that case too. Bastard lawyers!
To: Chewy
So why is everything kept so secret, under lock and key?
Therein lies the issue? I think not!
I am simply amazed that, with the availability of information to anyone, now someone cries 'foul'because someone else didn't go over every potential side-effect step-by-step. Silly me, I assume that all parents, acting in their childrens' best interests, make a point of being informed when it comes to *everything* regarding their children...I know I do.
Has it really come to a point where the mere idea of taking responsibility upon ones' self is such an outrageous one?
To: Chewy
Powerful article. Thanks for posting it.
Hopefully, with enough of these lawsuits, these types of (legal) drugs will be more carefully prescribed.
Lots of interesting stuff in this article: (1) Luvox has been taken off the market (first time I've heard this, must have been hush-hush); (2) other plaintiffs in lawsuits against pharmaceutical company were told at the settlement conference that a Colorado law says: 'If you lose, you pay' (someone's playing hardball); (3) the Baadsgaard case--interesting case--but this is the first I've heard of it.
To: Auntie Mame
Put "SSRI" in your search engine and read what people are going through to try and get off Zoloft, Paxil, etc. It will make your skin crawl. I've seen it personaly. It makes heroin withdrawal look tame. I don't generaly like lawsuits, but I hope they win. I believe every child shooter was on these drugs during the shooting spree 90's. These are powerfull drugs! Doctors prescribe these things like candy. It must stop.
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posted on
09/06/2002 11:02:22 PM PDT
by
chuckles
To: chuckles
Just as a matter of common sense, any (legal) drug that has directions which say, "Important: To not abruptly stop taking this drug," would give one cause for second thoughts. I believe all these SSRI type drugs cannot be stopped abruptly.
I would have hoped the FDA would put specific restrictions on those types of drugs in the line of, "This drug only to be given to institutionalized patients" where they can be closely supervised and not on the drug for long periods of time. As it is, doctors hand this stuff out like candy. And people, who are brainwashed to believe the doctor is God, dutifuly do what their Doc tells them. It is truly frightening. These people are walking among us every day.
War on Drugs my a$$.
To: Auntie Mame
Don't be foolish the way to eliminate drug crime is to make everything legal over the counter.
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posted on
09/06/2002 11:13:37 PM PDT
by
weikel
To: chuckles
BTW, no offense to the others on this thread, but can you BELIEVE the posts here? Are we still at Free Republic? Or are we in roboland?
This article is astounding, absolutely filled with all kinds of front page shockers! And most if not all of the responses are (said in a droning monotone): "It's not the drug, it's the parents," "people must take responsibility," "(legal) drugs are good, lawyers are bad."
Do you think they even read this amazing article?
To: Chewy
Well I take 100 mg/day of Elavil (Amitryptaline), an antidepressant. Not for depression, but an "off-label" use: it helps ease the terrible pain of diabetic neuropathy.
So far, after 4 years of taking it, I have not had the urge to murder anyone.
--Boris
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posted on
09/06/2002 11:17:12 PM PDT
by
boris
To: Auntie Mame
"Just as a matter of common sense, any (legal) drug that has directions which say, 'Important: To not abruptly stop taking this drug,' would give one cause for second thoughts." Take a look at the beta-blocker Inderal. It carries such a warning. My doctor tried to taper me off it too quickly. I ended up in the hospital with Atrial Fibrillation.
What 'second thoughts' would pertain to Inderal?
--Boris
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posted on
09/06/2002 11:18:53 PM PDT
by
boris
To: chuckles
These are powerfull drugs! Doctors prescribe these things like candy. It must stop. I agree with you, and I do absolutely believe that SSRI's can cause mania in children.
But there is one problem here. If the Colombine killings had been planned for more than a year, I doubt one could say that it was all the fault of a medication.
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posted on
09/06/2002 11:19:13 PM PDT
by
Dianna
To: Chewy
Once again, proof positive that lawyers are scum. The worst part is that there are people gullible enough to believe that life-saving anti-depressants cause maniacs to commit murder.
To: boris
Thank you for sharing information on your medical conditions and drug usage. I hope you feel okay--truly I do.
What do you think about this article?
To: chuckles
Sorry, don't mean to be a pest, just went to Solvay's website to check up on the info in this article about Luvox being taken off the market. Here's a May 2002 press release:
Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Suspends Sales of LUVOX® in the United States after FDA Exclusivity Expiration
Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc., Marietta, Georgia, has voluntarily requested the withdrawal of the U.S. Food & Drug Administrations original approval for LUVOX® (fluvoxamine maleate) Tablets, in the United States only. All other countries where fluvoxamine maleate is available for patients will remain entirely unaffected by this decision.
The turnover generated by LUVOX® in the United States has sharply declined since its U.S. FDA exclusivity expired, in June 2000. The bulk of Solvays fluvoxamine maleate sales are now in Japan and the European Union. The interruption of LUVOX® shipments in the US does not affect the prospects of the Groups pharmaceutical sector for 2002.
Both the FDA and the company have no concerns over the safety or efficacy of LUVOX®.
This withdrawal has no relation to the immediate release forms of fluvoxamine manufactured and sold in several countries around the world, and is based solely on U.S. administrative policy concerns. Prior to withdrawal of the application, Solvay Pharmaceuticals suspended further shipments of LUVOX® in the U.S. only.
SOLVAY PHARMACEUTICALS, Inc. (www.solvaypharmaceuticals-us.com) of Marietta, Georgia, is a research-based pharmaceuticals company, active in the therapeutic areas of cardiology, gastroenterology, mental health and womens health. It is a member of the worldwide Solvay chemical and pharmaceutical group, headquartered in Brussels, Belgium.
SOLVAY is an international chemical and pharmaceutical group with headquarters in Brussels. It employs some 31,400 people in 50 countries. In 2001 its consolidated sales amounted to EUR 8.7 billion generated by its four sectors of activity: Chemicals, Plastics, Processing and Pharmaceuticals. Solvay is listed on the Euronext 100 index of top European companies. Details are available at www.solvay.com
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