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Average American Lifestyle Called "Total Bull---t" by Environmentalist
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 9/09/02 | Marc Morano

Posted on 09/09/2002 4:03:23 AM PDT by kattracks

Johannesburg (CNSNews.com) - One of participants at the "People's Earth Summit," a parallel (protest) event to last week's United Nation's-sponsored Earth summit, said, "If anyone in a developing country looks to the U.S. and wants a lifestyle like the average American--it's total bull---t!"

Paula Snyder, an American who is traveling around the developing world to promote various Green causes, told CNSNews.com , "Greed is the enemy - the underlying problem is greed, and that leads into most of the problems with the ecological system and the political system."

The People's Earth Summit was held at St. Stithians College near the U.N.'s main summit site in Johannesburg.

"We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

'Social change project'


Snyder is traveling throughout the developing world as part of her "social change project," sponsored in part by the Earth Island Institute and Patch Adams, the famed doctor, known for his social activism and irreverent style.

Snyder said she has learned through her travels that residents of the world's poorer nations only think they want to emulate America.

"They want what we have -- but they don't realize how ugly it is," Snyder said.

Snyder implored her fellow Americans to "stop using so much...stop driving everywhere or carpool, stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them, stop using paper napkins for everything, stop using paper cups, carry your own travel mug, read Julia 'Butterfly' Hill's book, One Makes a Difference . It's the little things that really do make change." Hill is the young woman who lived in a California redwood tree for two years to protest logging practices.

"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

"A lot to learn"


Katie Silberman told CNSNews.com , "I think the developing world has a lot of lessons for us as Americans in terms of limiting our consumption and reducing our waste."

Silberman is from the Oakland-based Center for Environmental Health, the group that led the heckling of Secretary of State Colin Powell during his address last week at the Earth Summit. (see story: American Environmentalist: 'I'm Ashamed For My Country')

"The American way of life at this point is so overblown in terms of materialism and consumption," Silberman explained. "We actually have a lot to learn from the Southern Hemisphere in terms of community health," she added.

Silberman cautioned against too much growth in the developing world. "We live on this one small planet and it only has a certain carrying capacity," she said.b?

'The natural way'

Eleven-year-old Akshit Batra, an Indian representative of the "Children's Earth Summit," said "greed of the people" is destroying the earth.

"People are very corrupt, they are not worried about the environment, they are not worried about the next generation," Batra said.

He said U.S. citizens "should try to change their lifestyle according to the natural way and farmers should decrease the use of pesticides."

'Ecological debt'


Richard Navarro, the chairman of Friends of the Earth International (FoEi) spoke at a People's Earth Summit conferences entitled, "Earth Democracy: Your Earth Rights."

FoEi played a prominent role in the main summit, and Navarro was sharply critical of the summit's final outcome. He said the world gathering was "hijacked by free market ideology, by a backward-looking, insular and ignorant U.S...."

Navarro's speech to the "People's Earth Summit" focused on the "ecological debt" owed by the industrialized "North to the [developing] South" for the North's pollution and consumption habits.

"How can a person on this planet have more right than others to consume more?" asked Navarro.

According to Navarro, men also owe the women a "debt" for gender bias, and he spoke of the debt that a "white person has with colored persons and indigenous peoples" because of racial discrimination.

In fact, all of mankind has "a debt from our species to the rest of nature," according to Navarro.

"Other species take from nature only what they need to survive," he stated. "Which other species has the capacity to destroy the earth?" Navarro asked.

Navarro said that the September 11th terrorist attacks on the U.S. were a tragic criminal act, but he noted, "That very same day, there were 7,000 people dying of diseases related to water [sanitation]. Isn't that also a crime?"

'New equality'


Herbert Girardet, chairman of the British-based Schumacher Society, said he was unhappy with the main Earth Summit because it was reduced to the "lowest common denominator - in other words, what the Americans think is okay."

Girardet said the agenda of the People's Summit was not to look at "what is possible, but what is necessary."

"The Earth is in such a profound sense of emergency" and "we must create a new equality between human life and the natural world," explained Giradet.

People at the People's Earth Summit waved posters reading, "Earth Spirituality"; "Free Trade Means Famine"; and an anti-genetically-modified-food poster reading, "Seed to Bread, Farmer to Farmer."

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To: WindMinstrel
I actually enjoyed this earth summit. They really let the mask slip and admitted that it's about redistribution of wealth, not the environment. Since the Soviet Union fell the commies needed some place to escape to, and they chose the environmental movement.

But it's different. The old Soviet-style commies at least claimed their way served human needs better. They also liked industrial production, though they were none too good at it.

With the enviros, human needs are off the agenda.

51 posted on 09/09/2002 6:34:10 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman
That's true -- if these neocommunists had their druthers we'd be scratching at the dirt with sticks (if we were allowed to live, of course). Excellent point
52 posted on 09/09/2002 6:35:54 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: Caesar Soze
LOVE your screen name!
53 posted on 09/09/2002 6:42:05 AM PDT by technochick99
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To: Caesar Soze
You have a lot farther to go than you think. Keep striving though, because the bar is always being raised. :>()
54 posted on 09/09/2002 6:42:23 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: kattracks
This writer is a true nut-case.
55 posted on 09/09/2002 6:48:47 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: kattracks
Paula, you are hereby sentenced to read this book 100 times or until committed to memory:

Marxism is NOT good Paula. Not good.

56 posted on 09/09/2002 6:58:43 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: cincinnati65
Not wearing clothes with brand names means instead wearing Patagonia, Teva, Columbia, North Face, Marmot, Western Mountaineering, Stonewear Designs, riding a Santa Cruz or Litespeed and wearing any hiking gear that can be bought at Galyan's, although any outfitter store in Ann Arbor would be, like, better. Like the Bivouac, where they have outstanding sales. And camera gear, don't get me started.

After all, the best back packs are made for hiking and you can find the best colors.

It's been my experience people like these wear MORE brand name stuff than ANYONE I have ever seen. They create their frigging lifestyle around it.

57 posted on 09/09/2002 6:59:36 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: Benrand
No kidding! They are more brand conscious than just about any other group that comes to mind!
59 posted on 09/09/2002 7:12:10 AM PDT by missycocopuffs
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To: KS Flyover
What Katie needs is a nice bag of oats.
60 posted on 09/09/2002 7:25:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: kattracks
"We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

Fantastic! It's so good to see the environazis finally getting behind space exploration. Earth First! (We'll log the other planets later)

"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

Once an environmentalist always a communist. And some people wonder why they are called watermelons

We live on this one small planet and it only has a certain carrying capacity," she said.

This is true but we haven't even come close to that capacity. I read here that the entire population of the world could fit in Texas with 2500 sq ft per person. That leaves us well over 90% of the world for support services. We've got tons of room left!

God Save America (Please)

61 posted on 09/09/2002 10:21:23 AM PDT by John O
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To: KS Flyover
Why are environmentalist chicks routinely ugly. Does the environazi agenda cause them to become ugly or do they grab the environazi agend for attention because they are born ugly?

(I have the same question about liberal women. Conservative women such as our freeperettes are great looking while the liberals tend to look like hitlery or madeline albright or reno)

GSA(P)

62 posted on 09/09/2002 10:25:34 AM PDT by John O
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To: kattracks
Eleven-year-old Akshit Batra, an Indian representative of the "Children's Earth Summit," said "greed of the people" is destroying the earth.

Eleven? And this child knows something of the "greed of the people?"

Feh. Hogwash...

63 posted on 09/09/2002 10:28:33 AM PDT by mhking
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To: kattracks
Katie Silberman told CNSNews.com , "I think the developing world has a lot of lessons for us as Americans in terms of limiting our consumption and reducing our waste."

When Katie dies, we will have gotten rid of a HUGE waste (of skin)

64 posted on 09/09/2002 10:29:21 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: KS Flyover
I don't wanna see a picture of Katie. I wanna see the non-electrified hovel she is living in, and the patch of ground where she grows the millet she subsists on. I mean, she's certainly not traveling the globe shoving the poor back into their mud huts while she allows herself "greed" driven luxuries like refrigerated/truck delivered foods and electricity...

Is she?

65 posted on 09/09/2002 10:34:37 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: kattracks
"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

Damn straight, you let-me-mE-ME-tell-you-what's-good-for-you-poor-little-brown-people control freak, things ARE changing. The economies of developing countries that have embraced globalism, trade, capitalism, development are growing at an average rate of 5 percent, compared to developed countries' average rate of 2 percent. (The economies of the progressively smaller number of countries following your f-ed up advice are contracting as their populations are increasing. Look up "natural selection" to deduce the ultimate result of this.)

IOW globalism and economic development, building things, growing things with chemicals, digging and drilling stuff in the earth -- all the things that you hate (and that feed people and cloth them and shelter them and give them resources and security to advance their condition in life and the development and education of their children) -- are NARROWING the gap between the rich and poor nations.

It's your worst nightmare, you hope-killing, freedom-hating poverty whore. Billions of little brown people over the course of this century will be leaving their mud huts for air-conditioned houses with a personal auto in the garage.

What will you do when you can no longer haul your well-fed white butt around the globe lecturing the little brown people about the glorious "sustainability" of their impoverished degradation? I wish you a long future molding in the dark corner of some Karma Cafe commiserating with your fellow socialists about how no one pays attention to you anymore.

(O.K. Done ranting. I feel better now.)

66 posted on 09/09/2002 1:59:06 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: kattracks
I agree with the enviornmentalist my lifestyle is BS. Wake up, go to work, get paid. Next day, same. All this so half my money can go to stupid environmental studies and third-world dictators.

Time for a change of lifestlye. Where's that wagon. I want to ride for a while.

"When everyone wants to ride, who will pull the wagon."
67 posted on 09/09/2002 2:10:16 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: kattracks
"We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

You Greenies can have one of them to commune to death for yourselves. You can even have one with air and water. You can even pick any one you want except this one, and the offer is good until 4 Oct 2009.

68 posted on 09/09/2002 2:17:13 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: kattracks
****We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.**** Okay let's see Mr. Snyder could we let the Arab world have Uranus.

69 posted on 09/09/2002 2:18:56 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: kattracks
People's Earth Summit

The name suggests even more proof that the Greens are Marxist in ideology. What are they looking for a Peoples Republic of Earth?

If our lifestyle is total bull---t then why do we have an EPA, emission standards and laws regarding pollution while China (Marxist/Maoist Communist) is belching out a hughe brown cloud of real bull---t fumes?

Why did the international community have to catch the Soviets meltdown at Cherynobl while our overblown 3 Mile Island incident shut down an industry?

Sounds like the same old bull---t to me...Blame America first.

70 posted on 09/09/2002 2:25:23 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier
Just more b/s from the left. The good thing here is that their spokesmen do their cause much more harm than good.
71 posted on 09/09/2002 3:00:44 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: kattracks
What simplistic clap-trap these people are spouting.
72 posted on 09/09/2002 11:59:58 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
I'd love to know what her parents are like, and if they're proud of their silly marxist bitch.

Too bad she wasn't sitting in one of the millions of trees that burned this summer - due to mismanagement of the forest and arson by forest service employees.
Semper Fi

73 posted on 09/10/2002 12:11:36 AM PDT by river rat
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To: KS Flyover
Re: Post # 20.....Thank you. Very useful information.
74 posted on 09/10/2002 11:11:43 AM PDT by softengine
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To: backhoe; madfly; Stand Watch Listen; brityank; OldFriend; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; ...
bump
75 posted on 09/12/2002 4:19:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: KS Flyover
Katie Silberman

Well, she's cute, but I bet she doesn't shave her 'pits.

76 posted on 09/12/2002 4:39:44 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thnaks for the ping!
77 posted on 09/12/2002 4:40:41 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: kattracks
stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them

Shop smart, shop S-Mart


78 posted on 09/12/2002 4:55:42 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: Tailgunner Joe
""I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added."

Things will change when we eradicate socialist's like her !!

Stop the attacks on our Freedoms by, the brain dead, wacko, extreme left-wing, lunatic fringe, dirt worshipping Green Jihadist, enviro-nazis terrorist's and their toadies in the media !!

Death To All Tyrant's !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

FMCDH !!

F.I.R.E. !!

79 posted on 09/12/2002 5:04:05 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the ping, TJ. This isn't just "opinion." It's pure B.S...history, econ, philosophy, ethics and mathematics all debunk the socialist "theory."

From: A World Free of Wealth

Actually, if they want to help the poor, Bank officials should focus less on "inclusion" and more on freedom - because that's the real antidote to poverty. This is confirmed by the "Index of Economic Freedom," published annually by The Wall Street Journal and The Heritage Foundation. This guidebook ranks nations by how economically free they are. It consistently shows that people who live in countries with the fewest economic restraints are wealthier than those in economically repressed countries.

Take Haiti and the Dominican Republic, two developing countries with a common border. The 2001 Index shows that of the 155 countries graded, Haiti ranks 137th, while the Dominican Republic is 59th. So what? Well, the answer to that question is this: Thanks to a more market-oriented economy that features low tax rates, Dominicans earn nearly five times as much as Haitians: an average of $1,799, compared to Haiti's $370.

Examples like these abound. So why the Bank's misdiagnosis? Partly because of what it sees in the former Soviet Union. We've poured billions into many of these countries, and they're worse off today than under Soviet rule, Bank officials say. So capitalism obviously doesn't work.

But as the United States and other democracies have shown, capitalism isn't just the absence of socialist-style economics.

The reason should be clear: All the loans in the world are no substitute for economic reform - for freedom. Countries that want to be rich don't need charity; they need to unshackle their people's economic potential. Perhaps then the Bank can adopt a new slogan: "Our Dream is a World That's Really Rich."

80 posted on 09/12/2002 5:13:30 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Orual; countrydummy; Black Agnes
Earth island institute is associated with the Wildlands Project.
81 posted on 09/12/2002 5:25:06 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

That's why we should speed up space exploration and find and colonize those planets.

"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

I see. Rush called this one a long time ago.

82 posted on 09/12/2002 6:43:18 PM PDT by altair
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To: kattracks
She says total bull---t to us...

I say, tough ---t to Paula Snyder.

83 posted on 09/12/2002 6:50:03 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: kattracks
Eleven-year-old Akshit Batra, an Indian representative of the "Children's Earth Summit," said "greed of the people" is destroying the earth.

Is that his first name or a social comment?

84 posted on 09/12/2002 7:09:19 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: KS Flyover
Ok so did little Katie swim or bike to the peoples ecowacko summit? My guess is she flew and she stayed in a hotel and didn't eat the local fare.

She probably consumed enough energy stroking her ego to supply a third world community for a year.

What a maroon.
85 posted on 09/12/2002 7:23:19 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Neckbone
After I quit my job and burn all of my belongings, I shall weave a set of hemp clothing and wander to South America where the living is good.

Maybe the environmentalists don't travel much, they wouldn't have to go far. Mexico is a third world country where most people have very small homes and few belongings. Yet their cities are by far much more polluted than US cities, their rivers are often very filthy, the amount of litter everywhere is atrocious. Poverty doesn't seem good for the environment, the US looks much cleaner than most countries.

86 posted on 09/12/2002 7:40:08 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the heads up!
87 posted on 09/12/2002 7:41:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kattracks
Can you say "socialist" boy and girls?
90 posted on 09/12/2002 9:48:40 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: kattracks
"We actually have a lot to learn from the Southern Hemisphere in terms of community health"

The southern hemiphere.....Mmmm....

"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there."
- Yogi Berra

91 posted on 09/12/2002 10:10:42 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: kattracks
those watermelon sheeple gotta quit-
they have gone from comical to downright assinine to put it
politely. not to mention that the bitch is so nasty,
she scares janet reno.
92 posted on 09/12/2002 10:29:24 PM PDT by herewego
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To: John O
He he, great post.

I never heard the term "watermelon" before. Very accurate. When it comes to "carrying capacity" i always thought there was really no such thing. I'm all for preserving nature but in theory you could pave the entire surface of the earth with skyscrapers miles high holding hundreds of billions of people as long as you had the right technology and maybe were able to ship in raw materials from the other planets in the solar system.

A good book is "mining the sky" by John Lewis. Lewis asserts the the most valuable natural resource in the universe is the intelligent and hard working human being. So true. The dense cities we have today would have been impossible a couple hundred years ago. Luckily there are always inventions/improvements in sanitation, transportation, agriculture, mining, and energy production. Civilization is a beautiful thing. I guess the greens would dispute that...
93 posted on 09/13/2002 12:10:39 AM PDT by Induhvidual
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To: Tailgunner Joe
BTTT!!!!!
94 posted on 09/13/2002 3:07:50 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: E.G.C.
I'll bump your bump and add my two cents worth. Whata thread. I stopped attempting to understand enviro-whackos a long time ago. They are walking talking hypocrites one and all. Based on their convoluted beliefs, methinks they are all atheists as well except that each one seems to have a personal believe that they are GOD. Lastly, with apologies to right thinking, truth loving, Constitution supporting, freedom huging Freeperettes, are there any other reasons for yanking the female vote? I could continue endlessly, but...
95 posted on 09/13/2002 4:04:03 AM PDT by wita
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To: Salman
"With the enviros, human needs are off the agenda."

True. Now humans will be on the menu!

Smash the Watermelons!

96 posted on 09/13/2002 7:59:32 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Induhvidual
A good book is "mining the sky" by John Lewis. Lewis asserts the the most valuable natural resource in the universe is the intelligent and hard working human being.

And Lewis is right. We've not even come close to straining the resources of this planet.

GSA(P)

97 posted on 09/13/2002 8:32:49 AM PDT by John O
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To: Stultis
Bump, with my vote for "Rant of the Month". Well done.
98 posted on 09/13/2002 12:25:10 PM PDT by m1911
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To: kattracks
Further reading:
Resurrecting the "Happy Darky"
99 posted on 09/13/2002 1:29:03 PM PDT by m1911
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks Tailgunner Joe, Please keep me on your list.
100 posted on 09/13/2002 4:41:19 PM PDT by dinasour
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