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email from "Scholar." | Unknown | Fred Reed

Posted on 09/10/2002 1:14:13 AM PDT by Landru

Slavery Reparations

by Fred Reed

On the Web I find that Henry Louis Gates Jr., the chairman of Afro-American Studies at Harvard, is demanding that whites pay reparations to blacks. It's because of slavery, see. He is joined in this endeavor by a gaggle of other professional blacks.

I guess he'll send me a bill, huh? I feel like saying, Let me get this straight, Hank. I'm slow. Be patient. You want free money because of slavery, right?

I don't blame you. I'd like free money too. Tell you what. I believe in justice. I'll give you a million dollars for every slave I own, and another million for every year you were a slave. Fair enough?

But tell me, how many slaves do you suppose I have? In round numbers, I mean. Say to the nearest dozen. And how long were you a slave?

Oh. In other words, I owe you reparations for something that I didn't do and didn't happen to you. That makes sense. Like lug nuts on a birthday cake.

Personally, I think you owe me reparations for things you didn't do and never happened to me. I've never been coated in Dutch chocolate and thrown from the Eiffel Tower. I'll bet you've never done it to anyone.

I want reparations.

Kinda silly, isn't it?

But if we're going to talk about reparations, that's a street that runs in two directions. You want money from me for what some other whites did to some other blacks in another century.

How about you guys paying whites reparations for current expenses caused by blacks? Not long ago blacks burned down half of Los Los Angeles, a city in my country. Cities are expensive, Hank. Build one sometime and you'll see what I mean. Whites had to pay taxes to repair Los Angeles for you.

You can send me a check.

Now, yes, I know you burned LA because you didn't like the verdict in the trial of those police officers. Well, I didn't like the verdict in the Simpson trial. But I didn't burn my house and loot Korean grocers. Over the years blacks have burned a lot of American cities: Newark, Detroit, Watts, on and on. Now add in the fantastic cost over the years of welfare in all its forms, of large police forces and jails and security systems in department stores. I can't live in the capital city of my own country because of crime committed by blacks. Toss in the cultural cost of lowering standards in everything for the benefit of blacks.

See what I mean?

Now, I'd view things differently if you said, "Fred, blacks can't get anywhere in a modern country without education. We know that. We need better schools, smarter teachers, harder courses, books with smaller pictures and bigger words. Can you help us?"

I'd say, "Hallelujah! Hoo-ahh! Not just yes, but hell yes. Let's sell an aircraft carrier and get these folks some real schools and get them into the economic mainstream." I'd say it partly because it would be the right thing to do, and partly, because I'd like to add you guys to the tax base.

The current custodial state is expensive. I'd just love for blacks to study and learn to compete and stop burning places.

But is it going to happen?

You may not believe it, but I, and most whites, don't like seeing blacks as miserable and screwed up as they are. I spend a fair amount of time in the projects. Those places are ugly. It's no fun watching perfectly good kids turn into semi-literate dope dealers who barely speak English.

It just plain ain't right. But, Hank, what am supposed to do about it? I can't do your children's homework. At some point, people have to do things for themselves, or they don't get done.

Maybe it's time.

I'll tell you what I see out in the world, Hank. I think blacks are too accustomed to getting anything they want by just demanding it. True, it has worked for over half a century. Get a few hundred people in the street, implicitly threaten to loot and burn, holler about slavery, and the Great White Cash Spigot turns on.

Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer. Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become just a shake-down game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks.

Political correctness keeps the lid on -- but everyone knows the score.
Which scares me, Hank. On one hand, blacks hate whites and incline toward looting and burning. (The whites you hate are the ones who marched in the civil-rights movement. Ever think about that?)

On the other hand, whites quietly grow wearier and wearier of it.

Not good.

On the third hand (allow me three hands, for rhetorical convenience), blacks keep demanding things.

As I write, you demand reparations for slavery. Blacks in Oklahoma (I think it was) want money for some ancient race riot. Other blacks reject the Declaration of Independence, blacks in New York hint broadly at burning and looting over a trial, yet more demand the elimination of the Confederate flag, and the federal equal opportunity apparatus, which means blacks, wants to sue Silicon Valley for not hiring nonexistent black engineers.

That's a lot of demanding for one month, Hank. What happens if whites ever say, "No"?

Now, how about you? You've got a cushy job up there at Harvard, and you can hoot and holler about what swine and bandits whites are. I guess it's lots of fun, and you get a salary for it. But don't you think you might do blacks more good if you told them to complain less and study more?

For example, if you want blacks to work in Silicon Gulch, the best approach might be to find some really smart black guys, and get them to study digital design, not Black Studies.

That's how everybody else does it. It works. Then blacks wouldn't feel left out, and racial tension would decline.

Sound like a plan?

Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do professors of Afro-American Studies spend in the projects, encouraging poor black kids to study real subjects, Hank?

I wanted to highlight the really good points--but they are all really good.


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Simply excellent.
Spoken from the heart, too.

Yet, wanna bet *someone* will find this "racist"?
Especially since the very word, "racist," has -- somehow -- come to mean people may no loner communicate in plain, old english?
In essense people are being forced to lie to others?

...& worst of all; lie to ourselves.

1 posted on 09/10/2002 1:14:13 AM PDT by Landru
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To: scholar
Here it is, Angel.

...thanks.

2 posted on 09/10/2002 1:14:57 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Mudboy Slim; sultan88; KLT; PhilDragoo; gc4nra; stainlessbanner
FYI

...a very good read.

3 posted on 09/10/2002 1:18:00 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
Really good.Think I'll keep it. Thanks for posting it.
4 posted on 09/10/2002 1:31:12 AM PDT by earonthief
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To: Landru
You want money from me for what some other whites did to some other blacks in another century.

The slave trading that's still going on is blacks selling blacks.

5 posted on 09/10/2002 2:06:02 AM PDT by altair
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To: earonthief
"Really good.Think I'll keep it."

I thought so, too.
Go right ahead, it's a keeper if ever there was.

"Thanks for posting it."

...& I'll thank scholar for sending it, again.

6 posted on 09/10/2002 2:06:38 AM PDT by Landru
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To: altair
"The slave trading that's still going on is blacks selling blacks."

Shhhh...
Remember: the definitions of words have *changed* in this Brave New World we live in.

I believe what's still happening is not called "slavery" a'tall!!
Not IF it's perpetrated by blacks against blacks, it's not.

...what that's [now] called is, "commerce."

7 posted on 09/10/2002 2:18:35 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
I read this before.

On PBS about two years ago they had a documentary on Africa. And it was hosted by Henry Louis Gates Jr. Actually, it was a pretty good documentary. When it even broached on an Afrocentrist viewpoint the response was it might be that way or it might not be we don't know. The historic revisionism was kept out. The thing most irritating was that everywhere Gates went, and it didn't matter West Africa, Ethiopia, East Africa or Zanzibar, anyone, who he ran across whose ancestors had taken slaves, he'd asked does it bother you that you may have enslaved my ancestors? After a while it became so cliche on his part to be bothersome. I found myself saying to myself, "Mr. Gates your ancestors are from West Africa--why are you embarrassing these East Africans etc. with this question."

It became quite apparent that this guy has a problem with the fact that some folks enslaved his ancestors and they looked a lot like he did.

8 posted on 09/10/2002 2:18:36 AM PDT by Coeur de Lion
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To: Couer de Lion
"It became quite apparent that this guy has a problem with the fact that some folks enslaved his ancestors and they looked a lot like he did."

Facinating insight into the issue; and, the man.

...but, I'm afraid there's little profit in insights; of, either.

9 posted on 09/10/2002 2:23:08 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
"Simply excellent."

I'll second that!

10 posted on 09/10/2002 3:44:46 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

11 posted on 09/10/2002 3:48:22 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Landru
Well done - simply stated and well done.
12 posted on 09/10/2002 3:49:16 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Landru
Mr. Reed has laid out the points on why I loathe the black Left so much (I loathe the Left period, but these clowns are unbearable).
13 posted on 09/10/2002 4:00:52 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Landru

Now, I'd view things differently if you said, "Fred, blacks can't get anywhere in a modern country without education. We know that. We need better schools, smarter teachers, harder courses, books with smaller pictures and bigger words. Can you help us?"

I'd say, "Hallelujah! Hoo-ahh! Not just yes, but hell yes. Let's sell an aircraft carrier and get these folks some real schools and get them into the economic mainstream." I'd say it partly because it would be the right thing to do, and partly, because I'd like to add you guys to the tax base.

You do realize that we have the power within our hands right now to bring this to fruition, right?

14 posted on 09/10/2002 4:05:21 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Landru
Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do professors of Afro-American Studies spend in the projects, encouraging poor black kids to study real subjects, Hank?

ZERO!

15 posted on 09/10/2002 4:07:59 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Landru; Cagey; SeeRushToldU_So; P7M13
Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer. Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become just a shake-down game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks.

Favorite lines from a great piece......

16 posted on 09/10/2002 5:35:30 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Landru
Thanks Landru....Some people are very silly....and Mr. Gates needs to get a life...

Hey, dyin to come for a little visit...I need a break from all the shennanigans....

Your Pal,

Karen AKA KLT

17 posted on 09/10/2002 5:37:47 AM PDT by KLT
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To: ImHis
Frankly, Freepers ought to brainstorming on ways to make capitalism real to our fellow citizens who've been trapped in socialist-communist hell coutesy of the lilly-white liberals and the perfect-negroe liberals. Share the knowlege, share the joy of capitlism...

Now you're talking!

22 posted on 09/10/2002 6:29:05 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Landru
Yes, but how does Fred Reed feel about The Other Reparations Movement?
24 posted on 09/10/2002 6:32:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Landru
"I think blacks are too accustomed to getting anything they want by just demanding it. True, it has worked for over half a century. Get a few hundred people in the street, implicitly threaten to loot and burn, holler about slavery, and the Great White Cash Spigot turns on. Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer. Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become just a shake-down game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks. Political correctness keeps the lid on -- but everyone knows the score."

Bulls-Eye...MUD

26 posted on 09/10/2002 6:35:24 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: ImHis
What you mention is what I've been clamoring for, and will continue to do so until it's done.
27 posted on 09/10/2002 6:37:39 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Landru
Thanks Landru. My favorite quote from the article:
Like lug nuts on a birthday cake.

28 posted on 09/10/2002 6:40:35 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Landru
Bookmarked
30 posted on 09/10/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Landru
Super article! Thanks for posting.
31 posted on 09/10/2002 7:04:00 AM PDT by sultan88
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To: Landru
I consider Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams possessed of three of the finest minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, all are black.

So far as I can tell, Keyes, Sowell and Williams oppose this idiotic call for reparations.

Those who are NOT descended from AMERICAN slaves need to sit down and shut up. Under even the most tortured, leftist, idiotic (redundant!) logic (oxymoron!), these people have no standing. And those who ARE descendants of slaves now calling for reparations need to remember a few things:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ON THE PLANET! Had their forebears NOT been sold to the slave traders, the blood of their ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago. Their ancestors would have been killed outright or worked to death by the OTHER black who captured them in one of the interminable tribal wars still raging on that sad continent. These modern day would-be "plaintiffs" would not even exist.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of the approximately 3,000 SLAVE OWNING BLACK plantation owners in this country also be subject to PAYING reparations?

If so, how do we find THEM?

Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice:
“Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

What about the millions STILL living in slavery, held there by members of THEIR OWN RACE in Africa and elsewhere today?

Do you suppose THEY are NOT targets of these reparations whores because they have little or nothing of value for which they can be EXTORTED?

And how about the MILLIONS of WHITES and ASIANS who have slavery in their backgrounds?

Next problem!

32 posted on 09/10/2002 7:16:58 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: ImHis
You have the right stuff. Inform the conservative candidates in your area of your intentions and tell them to do the same, that is if they believe their own rhetoric.

In other words, it's time for the Right to put up or shut up.

34 posted on 09/10/2002 8:38:52 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Thanks. Yes, it is a very good piece.

The "shake-down game" never ends no matter what is going on in the world.

35 posted on 09/10/2002 8:50:18 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Landru
"Over the years blacks have burned a lot of
American cities: Newark, Detroit, Watts"


Watts twice! Excellent article, thanks for the ping!
36 posted on 09/10/2002 3:56:49 PM PDT by gc4nra
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To: Xenon481
ping
37 posted on 09/10/2002 8:53:56 PM PDT by sparkydragon
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To: Dick Bachert
"Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice: 'Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.' He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, 'Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.'"

This man had more than his fair share of both wisdom AND horsesense.

...as usual, Dick; excllent comments.

38 posted on 09/11/2002 9:03:45 AM PDT by Landru
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We're all going to get to the bottom of this -- together -- & beat the Liberal-Socialists in the process, yet.
I'm going to be, based upon my own feelings, be somewhat confident about this matter.

There've been many injustices & crimes committed against peoples of many differing & varied ethnicities & religions while "in" this country.
However, any injustices performed were by man, against his fellow man.
Just as injustice in other places around the globe has ocurred, since the beginning of time immemorial.

In any event, we can *fix* those injustices, past; now.
We possess the power; &, soon we'll have the will.

"Fixing" institutionalized sabotage on the other hand, inflicted by the present ilk of Liberal-Socialists?
That I'm afraid is another matter, altogther; &, *that* is what we're dealing with, now.

This Leftist bunch have done their damnedest to engineer thier sabotage in such a way "fixing" [it] will be extememly difficult; which, assumes it can be "fixed" a'tall.

If I were black?
That one reality *alone*, would gall me more than anything which happened 400 years ago.

What the Liberal-Socialists have effectively done, is to rob a person -- any person -- of their *future*, while condemning 'em to live in the past.
That's a fact.

A more incideous, egregious "Hate Crime" perpetrated against people of any kind & having more damaging, debilitating long term consequences would be very difficult to find. -IMO-

Frankly, what they've done is flat-out criminal.
Just articulating what's happened at the hands of the Liberal-Socialists can get a sane, rational person sized for a tinfoil hat.

...it's that nuts.

39 posted on 09/11/2002 9:40:43 AM PDT by Landru
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What the Liberal-Socialists have effectively done, is to rob a person -- any person -- of their *future*, while condemning 'em to live in the past.
That's a fact.

A more incideous, egregious "Hate Crime" perpetrated against people of any kind & having more damaging, debilitating long term consequences would be very difficult to find. -IMO-

What you've described here is both correct and the sine que non of the problem. Without the systematic, deliberate attempt to undermine the will and self-worth of a people, we wouldn't be having these problems such as we have today. A struggle of a just cause's, which had been won, spirit has been usurped and used as the foundation of what we have now which began in the late 1960s:

The Marxist Laboratory.

Show me an advance in Leftist policy that did not have some reference to the "poor" and "underpriviledged" minorities (blacks) since then. Just one.

Who has benefitted from such policies?

Is it sinking in now?

Therefore I charge the Left with being the biggest dream destroyer on this planet. I charge the Left with being the biggest murderer on this earth with its abortion mills of death put into the inner-cities. I charge the Left with being the biggest liars on this planet. And I charge the Left with being the biggest hypocrites on this planet, with their living high off the hog of capitalism while preaching the heresy of socialism in the name of those they purport to fight for.

You, Landru, have just hit a mammoth homerun. What the Left has done is indeed a "Hate Crime." And I thank you for your stance with those American blacks such as mhking, Trueblackman, mafree, T Lady, and swheats who know better. I can't speak in their names, but I thank you on behalf of them anyway.

On the secular level, the Marxitization of a people has destroyed it. And what we call "conservatism" is its only effective cure on that secular level. The demarxitizing has begun, and it's not going to stop.

Oh, yes. Their foundations of deceit shall crumble and crumble soon.

40 posted on 09/11/2002 10:11:47 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Landru
Thank you for the kind words.

And my thanks to Mr. Hailey for uttering his WISE words -- and to Mr. Neill for memorialzing them.

41 posted on 09/11/2002 10:23:21 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Landru
I SUPPORT reparations. My ancestors were enslaved for 300 years by the Egyptians 3,500 years ago. With compound interest, I, and every other Jew, is owed just over $ 800,000,000 by Egypt.

Small bills, please.

What? Annan and the rest of the psychotic third-world morons running the UN won't discuss this? I'm shocked!

42 posted on 09/16/2002 12:55:53 PM PDT by pabianice
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"With compound interest, I, and every other Jew, is owed just over $ 800,000,000 by Egypt."

HA!
Ok...lemme work this out.

"Small bills, please."

You realize this'll be in Egytian currency, eh?
(~whateverinthehellitisthesedayz)

Look, if I were you?
I'd be figuring on recouping somewhere around, $1.25??
That's $1.25 *US*, incidentally.

Of course that $1.25 will be net, after shipping, handling, applicable taxes --state & fed -- & sheister fees from here to...well...Egypt & back have *all* been deducted.

Still feeling so smart?
Face it, you gotta be an optomist about this stuff; 'cuz, could've wound-up owing the $1,25?

"What? Annan and the rest of the psychotic third-world morons running the UN won't discuss this? I'm shocked!"

Nawwww go on!
You aren't *shocked* one iota.
Might be able to fool some of the forum's members some of the time; or, even most of 'em most of the time.
But c'mon, Pilgrim, never all of 'em, all of the time.
OK?

...so I know you're just feigning that *shock*. ;^)

43 posted on 09/16/2002 1:46:55 PM PDT by Landru
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To: ExTexasRedhead; pissant

Ping!


44 posted on 08/30/2009 9:44:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: altair

Just like it was back then!


45 posted on 09/12/2009 8:54:22 PM PDT by Greg-n-CA
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To: Greg-n-CA

Yow. Blast from the past.

Sad to say, I have more stories to tell regarding slave trade today than I did 7 years ago.


46 posted on 09/12/2009 9:09:24 PM PDT by altair (Be careful of what you ask for, you might get it)
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To: Landru

BUMP


47 posted on 10/16/2010 8:56:42 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: yoe

BUMP


48 posted on 10/16/2010 8:57:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: Landru
How many blacks, if they suddenly had the unworldly magical power to change one part of history, would make it so slavery never happened? They'd have to think long and hard on it, because changing that part of history would mean the events leading up to their conception never would have happened. Simply put, they never would have been born. 30 million blacks would “poof” disappear. I would guess 99% of blacks would not undo slavery if they could. But they'd still like reparations for something they wouldn't change even if they could. Go figure.
49 posted on 05/17/2011 6:33:25 PM PDT by fromhere
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To: Landru

How did the slave traders “catch” so many of their fellow humans? Did they throw a net over them or what?


50 posted on 05/17/2011 6:42:32 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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