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Portland Jews Brace for Assault by 'Jews for Jesus' (anti-Christian Bigotry Alert!)
Torah Atlanta ^ | 2002 | Paul Haist

Posted on 09/15/2002 5:20:45 PM PDT by jstone78

Portland Jews Brace for Assault by 'Jews for Jesus'

By Paul Haist, Jewish Review

Portland’s Jewish community has mobilized to resist a two-week assault by Jews for Jesus who will unleash a sizeable squad of trained proselytizers on the city at the beginning of June. A former Eugene rabbi who now specializes in combating Jews for Jesus returned to Oregon May 7 and 8 to help the Jewish community here prepare for the assault. The campaign is planned to coincide with the annual Portland Rose Festival when thousands of people will be on the streets and accessible by pamphleteers.

Rabbi Efraim Davidson is the director of Torah Atlanta, a counter-missionary group that serves the southeast United States. Davidson, who lives in Atlanta now, was a founder and the spiritual leader of Congregation Ahavas Torah in Eugene.


The Jewish Federation of Portland and its Community Relations Committee have been aware for several months of JFJ plans to bring their crusade here now to take advantage of the large public gatherings that will occur during the Rose Festival.

Davidson said that the Portland campaign is part of a JFJ five-year program called “Behold Your God.” He has confronted similar JFJ campaigns in other cities, including Tampa, Fla., and Atlanta.

“Behold Your God,” is, according to Davidson, “a very well coordinated, multi-million-dollar campaign” focusing on 66 cities worldwide with Jewish populations of 25,000 or more.

He said that the Jews for Jesus use aggressive proselytizing to target disenfranchised or unaffiliated Jews, Russian immigrants and college students. He said their techniques are manipulative, deceptive and anti-Semitic.

Jews for Jesus have had some success in recent years. Davidson cited figures that show the group has grown from a mere seven U.S. congregations in 1975 to 478 today. There already are at least five so-called messianic congregations in Portland, according to the Web site, although Davidson identifies only three messianic congregations here.

Davidson added that in 1973 there were an estimated 10,000 born Jews in the United States who were practicing Christians. Today, 29 years later, he put that figure at about 250,000.

Davidson said the JFJ typically names a coordinator for a particular city that is part of its campaign plan. That person, who he identified as Sue Pearlman in Portland, does the groundwork for the upcoming campaign.

That groundwork includes, said Davidson, “hooking up with a messianic congregation and using it as the physical base for training.”

The coordinator also usually contacts local Baptist churches to recruit lay Christian volunteers. Davidson said the JFJ relies on the Baptists because they are “very motivated evangelicals.”

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bigotry; christians; freespeech; jews
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To: jstone78
Portland’s Jewish community has mobilized to resist a two-week assault by Jews for Jesus who will unleash a sizeable squad of trained proselytizers on the city at the beginning of June.

WWIII is upon us

former Eugene rabbi who now specializes in combating Jews for Jesus returned to Oregon May 7 and 8 to help the Jewish community here prepare for the assault.

He's the equivalent of a Navy Seal.
141 posted on 09/16/2002 1:05:45 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: sfwarrior
Most Jewish organizations and most Jews dislike Christians, This is a fact. I know, I'm Jewish.

Since most American Jews end up marrying someone who is Christian, they probably don't dislike Christians. And I am not Jewish.
142 posted on 09/16/2002 1:11:26 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: Snidely Whiplash
Ah, yes - the "International Bankers" code. I bet Robertson and his cult also have a secret handshake when they meet secretly to conspire against the Jews...

Isn't it funny that both sides of the political spectrum are always accusing each other of being conspiritorial?

I just wish that liberal Jews would give the "anti-semitic" label a rest. All freepers here who dislike Barbara Striesand (99.9%) could be branded with the scarlet "A" just for disagreeing with her politics. Think that's a stretch? Tell that to the music critic who wrote a negative review of her concert and was immediately attacked by the leftists as a bigot.

143 posted on 09/16/2002 2:31:00 PM PDT by pocat
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To: mfulstone
If you cannot understand the gospel of the kingdom, how can you understand those other scriptures you quote?

I quoted the scriptures that prove Jesus and His disciples clearly claimed there is NO OTHER WAY to God but through Him.
I also showed you that Jesus stated this applied to Jews.

Even a child can understand what those verses say.

These scriptures clearly prove you are wrong when you said the Bible didn't teach the Jews need to believe in Jesus to be saved.

Obviously you cannot challenge any of these scriptures, and instead have gone on a disconnected rant about the definition of "kingdom".

The rest of your post only gets worse;

Where I walk those signs follow me. God tells me I'm on the right path. I am not alone - there are others who know of which I speak and walk as I walk.

Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what?
It is clear that you are having a hard time articulating a coherant response to my posts.

Once again;
Jesus said "NO MAN cometh unto the Father but by Me" (John 14:6)
Jesus told the religious Jews that didn't accept Him as Messiah;
"You shall die in your sins. If you believe that I am not He, you shall die in your sins" (John 8:24)
"Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given unto men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12)
Jesus also told the religious Jews who rejected Him; "If God were your father you would love me".
"You are of your father the Devil"
( John 8:42-44)
Like it or not the scriptures clearly teach the Jews must accept Jesus to be saved.

144 posted on 09/16/2002 4:31:17 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: All; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; Crazymonarch; Zad; Fred Mertz; Sir Gawain; ...
What I posted in #63 above has demons raging to the point they want the messenger (me) to be "permanently banned," sent "to hell," and "have his head handed him."  It has tweaked a spirit of Murder, the same spirit as in the Inquisition which murdered Jews and Christians who would not submit to pagan sungod worship.  Are we seeing the Inquisition again?  Just who is being hateful and twisting things?  Who is the accuser?*  Let each person decide.
4567. *Satanas
Search for G4567 in KJVSL
satanaV Satanas sat-an-as'
of Chaldee origin corresponding to 4566 (with the definite affix);
the accuser, i.e. the devil:--Satan.
Demons saying they come in peace and tranquillity have filled what represents itself to be the temple and require others to bow to their judgment, i.e. submit.  It isn't only Islam that means submission.  This is today, not the Roman or Spanish Inquisition.  We will serve no god but the L~rd and Him only.

The enemies of G~d have been provoked because I pointed out that Replacement Theology is false and Christians are not supposed to exalt themselves over and above Jews lest they be cut off .  Demons are raging because they want people to continue to be deceived.  Replacement Theology is antisemitic and those who hold to it need to repent of it in every form, and inspect their other doctrines as well to see how they incorporate antisemitism.  Some people should seek deliverance from demons.

Antisemites are without the Spirit, without understanding and are themselves under a curse of G~d.  Antisemitism is also a "fruit" to inspect to see if another is true or false.  We are not to have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness even if they claim that they are "a Christian."  Ye shall know them by their fruits.  Who? False prophets.  To continue to argue with such is just arguing with demons.  The scripture says, "from such turn away" (2Ti 3:5) and "shake the dust" for your feet.  Mr 6:11.

Mt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

145 posted on 09/16/2002 7:55:02 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
You 2sheep are doing fine and will continue to.
146 posted on 09/16/2002 8:02:35 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: MarkL
Jesus and all of the early Believers were Jewish and were labled "Christians" (Christ-like) by the Romans. Jesus spoke in the Synagogues as did Peter, Paul, James and the other apostles. The first Believers frequently met in homes, much later they established churches, or places of worship. Jews for Jesus is an accurate name.

I've always found it odd that "christianity" is considered a western religion. Christianity was born in Bethlehem and preached in Europe and parts of Asia long before moving west.
147 posted on 09/16/2002 8:24:51 PM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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To: jstone78
The New Testament calls on us to preach the Good News to all of the world. If the gospel of Christ is good enough to be preached to Hindus, Moslems and Buddhists, why not to our Jewish friends and neighbors?

Why don't you mind your own f***ing business.

If you think your God is peachy, great... then worship him and shut the hell up.

148 posted on 09/16/2002 8:30:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jstone78
The attempts to frustrate missionaries who preach the holy message of Christ, is nothing more than religious bigotry.

For me, I find Christ's message far more compelling when delivered by deeds instead of words. Do you think that might be what the New Testament is talking about when it mentions spreading the good news?

151 posted on 09/16/2002 9:19:58 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Yehuda
Summary: (1) "I disagree with Christian theology, therefore Jewish Christians are liars and deceivers"; (2) "Jewish Christians should say no more to other Jews but go evangelize the Muslims" (as though, given the historic antipathy between Muslims and Jews, they would be the most effective agents to do so).
152 posted on 09/16/2002 11:58:49 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Prodigal Daughter
and didn't try to soften or pervert the message, unlike some of the newer perversions

We can thank the KJV for bringing us the term "baptism." King James, because of the "sprinkle baptism" theology of the Anglican church, didn't want a literal translation of the Greek term of which "baptism" is basically a transliteration. If KJV had feared God enough to translate that term on the same standard that you claim for the rest of the text, we wouldn't be talking about "baptisms." We'd be talking about "immersions."

153 posted on 09/17/2002 12:07:38 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Prodigal Daughter
The NIV translating team had 100 "scholars" from 20 denominations (how ecumenical!)

Better this, than the Anglican bias of the KJV.

154 posted on 09/17/2002 12:11:53 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: aristeides
But jstone78 made the point -- which I believe is correct -- that a "Jew" can be an atheist, and nevertheless be accepted as a Jew, whereas a "Jew" who accepts Christianity is not accepted as a Jew. Is it really true that belief in God is not a main tenet of Judaism in the same way that belief that the Messiah has not yet come is? If true, it does seem mighty peculiar.

My wife's side of the family is Jewish, and my sister-in-law is a Messianic Jew married to an Evangelical, so I get to see a lot of the dynamics up close

Being "Jewish" is both a religion and an ethnicity. One can be an atheist, yet still have a strong attachment and identification with the ethnicly-Jewish community. Once you become a Christian of Jewish descent, you identify more with the Christian community.

155 posted on 09/17/2002 12:31:54 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Yehuda
The J4J started out over 150 years ago as a Christian Missionary organization called "The Society For Ameliorating the Condition of the Jews." They managed to "save" about one or two souls a year, mainly by paying them money to convert. Then, as now, they were Christian Evangelical Organization who used a handful of illiterate, deluded persons of Jewish ancestry as shills.

All the people who think "Jews for Jesus" are such a bunch of great guys, how would they feel if a group calling itself "Christians for Mohammed" targeted all their churches for conversion to Islam?

156 posted on 09/17/2002 2:32:45 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: drlevy88
Summary: (1) "I disagree with Christian theology, therefore Jewish Christians are liars and deceivers";

What exactly are you summarizing? I see nothing of the above in Yehuda's post. Liars are and deceivers are groups who, under pretenses of being Jewish, go out and try to convert other Jews. Interestingly, they go after those are most susceptable and are easily fooled - college students, and russian Jews who lost touch with their Judaism because of the Soviet "discouragement" of practicing Judaism. So, tell me, what's the difference between a Jew who believes in Christ, and a Christian?

(2) "Jewish Christians should say no more to other Jews but go evangelize the Muslims"

Yehuda brought up a valid point. If Christ's message is universal & etc, why baptists concentrating on Jews? What about catholics, muslims, etc? Why do Jews for Jesus not admit openly that they are backed financially by baptists? What are the differences in beliefs between baptists and Jews for Jesus, and if there are none, why don't they call themselves baptists? Is a Jew not one who practices Judaism?

157 posted on 09/17/2002 4:29:36 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: ru4liberty
What does the Old Testament teach about how the Jew obtains salvation/forgiveness?

What were religious Jews doing all day yesterday, that some noticed their conspicuous absence from the forum?

Deuteronomy 4:29-35

29. From there you will seek the Lord, your God, and you will find Him, if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul.
30. When you are in distress and all these things have befallen you, at the end of days, you will return unto the Lord, your God, and hearken to His voice.
31. For the Lord, your God, is a merciful God, He will not abandon you nor destroy you, and He will not forget the covenant of your forefathers that He swore to them.
32. For inquire now regarding the early days that preceded you, from the day when God created man on the earth, and from one end of heaven to the other end of heaven: Has there ever been anything like this great thing [giving of the Torah on Sinai] or has anything like it been heard?
33. Has a people ever heard the voice of God speaking from the midst of the fire as you have heard, and survived?
34. Or has any god ever miraculously come to take for himself a nation from amidst another nation, with challenges, with signs, and with wonders, and with war, and with a strong hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with greatly awesome deeds, such as everything that the Lord, your God, did for you in Egypt before your eyes?
35. You have been shown in order to know that the Lord, He is God! There is none beside Him!

158 posted on 09/17/2002 4:48:31 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: 2sheep
Revelation 2:7
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God."'

Proverbs 3:18
She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her, And happy are all who retain her.

Paradise of God

PaRDeS - The Hebrew/Aramaic word PARDES is spelled in Hebrew and Aramaic without vowels as PRDS. PaRDeS refers to a park or garden, esp. the Garden of Eden. ...

Proverbs 3
1 My son, do not forget my Torah, And let your heart watch over my commands; 2 For length of days and long life And peace they add to you.

159 posted on 09/17/2002 4:49:38 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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To: pocat
I've often wondered what the modern belief is. The Jews don't have a temple in Israel (right now), and they don't make sacrifices anymore, so how are they redeemed?

Through observance of the Commandments, repentance and prayer.

160 posted on 09/17/2002 4:57:51 AM PDT by Alouette
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