Skip to comments.American-Born Muslims And The Lessons Of The Lackawanna, NY Terrorist Cell
Posted on 09/16/2002 10:03:20 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
It´s fair to say that most Americans were shocked to learn that five American-born Muslims were arrested in Lackawanna, New York, accused of aiding and abetting al Qaeda. They are alleged to have traveled to Afghanistan to train in one of Osama bin Laden´s camps and are said to have actually heard him address his terror troops.
The lesson here is that, for "true believers", Islam demands total allegiance to the exclusion of all other loyalties. This is why a meeting of Muslims in England last week to celebrate 9-11 included remarks to the effect that they want to see Great Britain become an Islamic state. On the face of it, that seems idiotic, but not to the Muslim whose life is dedicated to the spread of Islam. The discord between Muslim populations residing in largely non-Muslim nations can be traced to the intent that Islam come to rule those nations.
It is too early to know any but the few facts provided in the Federal Bureau of Investigation indictment. The five men have pleaded not guilty, but there are three other unnamed defendants and it is likely that they are cooperating with the FBI. Thus, we are going to learn much more as the process of the trial proceeds. The investigation, which reportedly began before 9-11, had to have been extremely thorough given the fact that the full protection of the US Constitution will be extended these five men.
Curiously, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) was silent following the arrest of the Lackawanna Five. Regarding the September 15 incident involving Miami-bound Islamic-Americans that tied up traffic on a major highway, Executive Director Altaf Ali was quick to protest, saying that the rising tide of anti-Muslim rhetoric in our society can trigger discrimination by a bigoted minority. However, after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, CAIR characterized the trial and conviction of bombing mastermind, Sheik Omar Abdul-Rahman as an "incident of bias and violence" against Muslims. Suffice it to say, so far as CAIR is concerned, no Muslim is even capable of terrorist acts and any criticism of Muslims is bigotry.
There are an estimated 2.8 million Muslims residing in the US. Their spiritual needs are ministered to in 2,000 mosques. Barely a handful of these mosques have an American born imam. The US Muslim community claims its population is six million.
It is likely that the parents of the five defendants were among the first wave of Muslims to arrive after 1965 when the barriers to immigration were dropped against those from the Middle East. Since then, as we have come to learn, it has been an easy matter for anyone from Middle Eastern or heavily Muslim Asian nations to gain access to the United States as tourists, students, businessmen or as someone seeking naturalization.
There is yet another lesson to be gained at this point. Indications are that fellow members of the US-Yemeni population in Lackawanna tipped off the FBI. While all Muslims in America are now under intense scrutiny, some are loyal to this nation.
Let us also not forget that there are upwards of eleven million illegal immigrants loose in this nation and how many of them are Muslims is anyone´s guess. In the six months following the 9-11 attack, more than 50,000 new tourist, business, and student visas were issued to non-Israeli visitors from the Middle East. In the last five years, nearly 1.5 million visitors and immigrants from fifteen nations where al Qaeda operates have been welcomed to the United States.
So, the final lesson of this latest arrest for terrorist activities is that, while we awaken to the prospect of Muslim US citizens plotting against their own nation, there are countless thousands of other Muslims here "temporarily" as students, businessmen, and tourists. Who are they? Where are they? Don´t ask the Immigration and Naturalization Service. They have no idea. And therein lies a threat that is not going to go away for a long time.
That day will come, and we will submit, or die. (Actually, we'll be dead, but our children will pay the price.)
You still need to explain how people can be evil if the "idea" of evil doesn't exist.
You ignore the difference between the people who kill in the name of Christianity (which is against the teachings of Christ), and those who kill for Islam (perfectly in line with the teachings of Mohammed and the Koran).
I do not ignore the difference. But the majority of people in the world -- Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever, have never killed anyone. People who enjoy killing will find a justification in their religion. This is a historic fact. It seems to be easier in Islam because church and state are the same, and because Muslims believe it is their duty to convert the world.
But to an individual who is being forcably converted, it makes no difference whether the force is justified by some abstract idea in a book.
Nope, not surprised one little bit.
It was an American born Møøse Limb who complained when I put a Flag in my cubicle, 9/12/01...
People kill for all sorts of reasons. But they also commit adultery for all sorts of reasons, lie for all sorts of reasons, steal for all sorts of reasons, etc. etc. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. It boils down to the fact that people are sinful and fallen beings in need of a Savior. Even you are in that category friend. Isn't it true you have broken the 10 commandments in your lifetime? Have you ever lied - even once? The bible says if you offend in one point of the law, you are guilty of all. Without a Savior, you or I will surely be judged for our actions and will spend eternity separated from God in hell.
I'm sure you are correct about the teachings of Jesus, but that hasn't prevented Christianity, as embodied in the Church, from committing murder, and in fact doing so for centuries at a time.
It's not Christianity that has done it. It is people who "claim" to be Christians. I can claim to be a poached egg - does that make it true?
I dunno. At a time when church and state were the same, how could you tell?
I have already exhaustively explained how you tell. Weren't you reading?