Best Places To Go To Prison

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[angkor]

I hope I have made myself clear.

Eminently. And we have more in common than you may know.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your previous comments.

[Billy_bob_bob]

No problem, you allowed me to clarify my arguments and to state once again my very favorite argument of all; about rule of law, property rights and free enterprise being the key to prosperity.

[STONEWALLS]

"Eglin is the original "Club Fed," nicknamed as such back in the 1980s..."
.....actually since before the 80s...a lot of the Watergate guys did their time there....I was living in Louisiana in the mid-70s when the state highway commissioner got sent up for theft and kickbacks....he was carried over to Eglin by TWO state police cruisers....he was chauffered in first and the second one was to carry all his stuff (clothes, TV, golf clubs, bass rods ect)..
......when Marvin Mandel, the disgraced ex-governor of Maryland did his stint there he organized " educational seminars"...on off shore banking, securities fraud, tax evasion, money laundrying ect....and why not?...the featured "presenters" at the "seminars" were his fellow inmates who had considerable experiance in such areas.....Mandel even organized a "toastmasters club" that featured after dinner guest speakers...the great Johnny Unitas was even on the program one evening....it was said that he got a standing ovation from cons and guards alike.
Good luck to everybody!!
Stonewalls

[angkor]

Now having reviewed your comments, I came across this:

Whoever spends the most wins. It's just that simple.

Not true. He has the most persistence wins. I know that as a personal fact, it is quite indisputable beyond any doubt in my own experience.

He who has the persistence, the facts, and the truth wins.

I'm sorry things didn't work as you expected.

As we grow older we accept with equanimity that "The wheels of justice grind slowly, BUT they grind exceedingly fine."

You will get a fair hearing, but it may take very long time.

[Guillermo]

Otisville was designed primarily with the Orthodox Jewish community in mind, although it is not officially designated as a Jewish facility. It was built in response to the fact that Orthodox Jews often tried to get out of doing time by making the legal argument that the Bureau of Prisons violated their First Amendment rights because it could not accommodate their religious lifestyle.

...Prisoner perks: Kosher kitchen, weekly Shabbat observances. Every year during Passover, Jewish convicts are flown into Otisville temporarily to participate in a seder.

What a Country!

[Billy_bob_bob]

We settled years ago, knowing that we didn't want to be fighting until we were old and grey. Believe me, when the stakes are high enough, and you are suing over something worth millions and millions of dollars, you just would not believe the kinds of shenanigans that can go on in a courtroom. We didn't have the millions it would have taken to pursue the case until the bitter end, I and my co-plaintiffs just ended up getting shafted, that's all there is to it. I don't want to go into more detail for fear of inadvertently saying something that will get me sued by billionaires.

The end result is that I harbor a great deal of resentment towards our legal system. I'll never serve on a jury, because I'll happily tell the judge just what I think of our legal system, and how convinced I am that everyone involved is beneath contempt. That should get me thrown out of there in a hurry!

[Billy_bob_bob]

OTOH, now that I have some free time, it might be fun to sit on a jury just to monkeywrench it, force a hung jury just for the sake of costing the system some money. Goodness knows it cost me enough. That might be fun. I'll have to think about it.

[angkor]

We settled years ago, knowing that we didn't want to be fighting until we were old and grey.

I would have pursued one particular case until my death day. It was against a law firm for $138.00 USD.

I don't know what your case was about.

Mine was about the truth.

I won.

[ampat]

Fly Jewish prisoners to Otisville each year? No wonder the National Debt is so huge.
All prisoners should only be allowed perks after a day of hard labor, six days a week (maybe only a half day on saturday).

[DaBroasta]

Many times, I've noticed the Club Fed men milling around drink machines in the BX parking lot...the ones dressed in Navy Blue Dockers with pressed white shirts..:~)

I've been living and working at Eglin for over 20 years, and the prison camp is not as cushie as this article implies. The inmates here do all the installation upkeep--mowing lawns, raking leaves, picking up cigarette butts, etc.--that otherwise the already overworked airmen would get stuck doing. There are few discipline problems with these guys cause they know they're headed to the big house if they screw-up and the good thing is they will do at least 85 percent of their sentence before they get a shot at parole. While I think whitecollar criminals should do hard time just like the doper that robs a convienence store, the federal prison system arrangement at places like Eglin and Tyndall do have some good points.

[rmlew]

I know some Jews who would consider having to follow Orthodox rules to be punishment.

The thought of a bunch of rich liberal JINO's (Jews in name only) being forced to follow halacha is amusing. 10 fast days, restricted diet, thrice daily prayers....
The good news is that they might find G_d and repent.

[montanus]

Morgantown is not in the Blue Ridge Mountains. It's WEST of the Applachians.