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Pius XII as Scapegoat
-- FIRST THINGS -- ^
| Copyright (c) 2000 First Things 105 (August/September 2000): 20-22.
| Michael Novak
Posted on 09/18/2002 2:38:40 PM PDT by vannrox
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Very interesting find... FIRST THINGS... great site!
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posted on
09/18/2002 2:38:40 PM PDT
by
vannrox
To: vannrox
I think Mr. Novak gives too much credit to those who have recently targetted and are continuing to target Pius XII and the Vatican. I smell an eventual lawsuit and the billions of dollars the lawyers and supposed "victims" would gain from a successful lawsuit... but first, the foundation must be laid for such a lawsuit and thus the lies and propaganda.
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posted on
09/18/2002 3:31:50 PM PDT
by
waxhaw
To: vannrox; patent; Siobhan; sitetest; JMJ333; narses; Catholicguy; *Catholic_list; Notwithstanding; ..
Pius XII ping
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posted on
09/18/2002 3:35:20 PM PDT
by
Polycarp
To: vannrox
Eugenio Pacelli was the real author of Mit Brennender Sorge.
To: waxhaw
I smell an attempt by the far left to set Catholics and Jews at each other's throats.
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posted on
09/18/2002 3:55:45 PM PDT
by
rmlew
To: vannrox
The newest issue available online (June/July 2002) has another article on the subject.
Goldhagen v. Pius XII
To: Romulus
Romulus, Sr. Margherita is on EWTN's
The World Over right now. If you don't have cable TV, you can watch it on the Web at
EWTN live video & audio.
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posted on
09/18/2002 5:11:38 PM PDT
by
ELS
To: ELS
A priest in the audience asked Sr. Margherita for an update on the progress of Pius XII's cause for beatification/canonization (he was declared venerable shortly after his death). She said she recently spoke to Fr. Peter Gumpel and he said that all of the documentation that needs to be presented to John Paul II will be ready by the end of the year.
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posted on
09/18/2002 5:46:16 PM PDT
by
ELS
To: ELS
Another interesting comment from Sr. Margherita: St. Padre Pio wrote in his diary that when Pius XII died that he had a vision of the soul of PP XII going to heaven. Sr. then said, "You think he should be canonized? He is already in heaven."
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posted on
09/18/2002 5:57:47 PM PDT
by
ELS
To: Romulus
Correction - It wasn't The World Over, it was EWTN Live.
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:02:20 PM PDT
by
ELS
To: vannrox
bump
To: ELS
Thanks; I caught just the final minutes. Did I see a new book in her hand?
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posted on
09/18/2002 8:21:00 PM PDT
by
Romulus
To: vannrox
This is the express intention of John Cornwell, author of Hitlers Pope:...
<> I was extremely angered when "Crisis" magazine got Cornwell to sit for an interview and they didn't confront him about his tendentious and despicable book.
They had no trouble writing a long and critical article about Michael Rose though. Weird. <>
To: Romulus
I think it was her new book which she said would be out in November. It hadn't been shown earlier and she was trying to get a plug in. :-)
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posted on
09/19/2002 6:04:09 AM PDT
by
ELS
To: ELS
Bump.
Ping for a later read. I saw Sister Margharita on EWTN last night. She is wonderful and I intend on reading the two books she mentioned. When I have a bit more time I'll try to post links to the two books she mentioned.
To: Romulus; american colleen
I did a quick search and found some information on her latest book. It is going to be published by Inside the Vatican.
Pope Pius XII supported plot against Hitler (the few typos notwithstanding, a synopsis of Shepherd of Souls)
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posted on
09/19/2002 7:13:22 AM PDT
by
ELS
To: ELS
He's a seriously under-rated pope, who has not yet received his due from historians. I think his reputation will grow considerably in the years to come.
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posted on
09/19/2002 7:47:13 AM PDT
by
Romulus
To: Catholicguy
They had no trouble writing a long and critical article about Michael Rose though.WeirdA statement worth pondering.
To: waxhaw
I smell an eventual lawsuit Your smell is affected by some stereotypes, it seems.
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posted on
09/19/2002 6:05:41 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: vannrox
Thank uo VannRox. This article answered a great number of questions I had.
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posted on
09/19/2002 6:07:08 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
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