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E-Mail Hinted at new attack
Buffalo News ^ | September 19, 2002 | Dan Herbeck and Michael Beebe

Posted on 09/19/2002 10:09:23 AM PDT by ganesha

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To: ganesha
"..Al-Bakri was quoted as telling agents he "considered himself a member of al-Qaida" while he was at the camp, but not after his return to Lackawanna.."

He must have forgotten the secret handshake.

21 posted on 09/19/2002 12:05:03 PM PDT by Icthus
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To: Icthus
"..Al-Bakri was quoted as telling agents he "considered himself a member of al-Qaida" while he was at the camp, but not after his return to Lackawanna.."

Did he say that before or after he watched the Today show?

22 posted on 09/19/2002 12:07:09 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
;o)
23 posted on 09/19/2002 12:08:41 PM PDT by Icthus
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To: ganesha
"Mere attendance at a camp," the lawyers argued, "is not enough."

Maybe not, but conspiracy is. Being part of a "sleeper cell" of trained terrorists awaiting orders is conspiracy to commit treason and mass murder.

See here's the situation. We got 6, 5 of whom are American citizens, and they have been actively involved as members of a hostile power (even though it's not a state, it's a hostile power). Since returning from Afghanistan, if they have so much as talked to each other about what they planned to do, they have committed conspiracy. And furtherance of that conspiracy is definitely providing "aid and comfort to an enemy".

So they go in there and tell them: We understand you went to the camps in two groups of 3 each. We are going to give one man from each group the opportunity to avoid the death penalty for treason, by cooperating with us and ratting out your friends. The other four are going to die, sure as the sun will come up tomorrow. We have not decided whom among you will be given this privelege, but we will keep you separately, and will be glad to talk to any of you who would like to talk to us.

The alternative is that we will convict you based on the evidence we have already amassed from confiscating your computers and information provided from others, and you will all get a ride on Old Sparky.

24 posted on 09/19/2002 12:23:06 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: freeperfromnj
"Law enforcement officials say they are not sure exactly what "watermelon" referred to"

You're right-I remember hearing the watermelon reference and then it just faded away.When I heard the email text last night-I wrongly assumed that this blockbuster news would be the big headline of the day. Has some celebrity been caught shoplifting or did Whacko Jacko find another kid ? Is that what has knocked this news onto page 12??
25 posted on 09/19/2002 1:04:08 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
I wrongly assumed that this blockbuster news would be the big headline of the day.

If you want to hear serious discussion on this issue tune in to Batchelor & Alexander at 10:00 pm eastern time on WABCradio.com. For the past two nights they have been discussing this issue, including the tracking of a possible device being moved across the Canadian border, with Andrew Krystal from a Canadian Radio station. Other than there, you're right - its has not been front and center as it should be. These guys prompted the orange alert and they have connections with Binalshib (sp?). I don't understand why it is being downplayed. The focus seems to be on their defense.

26 posted on 09/19/2002 1:20:34 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Robe
No flames from me, I think you're right.
27 posted on 09/19/2002 1:45:51 PM PDT by cmak9
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To: Eva
Indeed, bizarre that he was given credence...if he loved this country so much what the hell was doing in Afghanistan for a three-week love fest with 'the Most Wanted One' whose sole aim in life is attacking the U.S. of A.?
28 posted on 09/19/2002 1:47:37 PM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: ganesha
"The case sounds thin to me," said William Clauss, a federal public defender who represents Yahya A. Goba.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think someone somewhere is just making these names up?

29 posted on 09/19/2002 2:37:50 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: porte des morts
The casino is in Niagara Fall, Ontario.
30 posted on 09/19/2002 5:02:00 PM PDT by Lillee
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Padilla-Buffalo connection?

Man arrested here in terrorist probe may be deported

July 17, 2002

BY FRANK MAIN CRIME REPORTER

Nabil al Marabh--whose arrest in suburban Chicago last year drew national attention when he was described as a suspected operative of Osama bin Laden--has pleaded guilty to an immigration violation and could be deported without facing terrorism charges, officials said Tuesday.

The FBI picked up al Marabh on Sept. 19 at the 7 Days Liquor/Food Store in Burbank and shipped him to New York as a material witness in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Al Marabh piqued the interest of federal investigators because he allegedly transferred money to a bin Laden associate in the Middle East.

But like other people rounded up in the investigation of the World Trade Center attacks, no terror charges have been brought against the 35-year-old Kuwait native.

"Our case here was primarily about an attempt by al Marabh to smuggle himself into the United States in June 2001," said Marc Gromis, a prosecutor in the U.S. attorney's office in Buffalo, N.Y., where al Marabh is being held. "We are not raising concerns about terrorism in our case. We are not prepared at this time to present evidence against him for any terrorist activity."

On July 8, al Marabh pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit alien smuggling for trying to sneak across the Canadian border into Lewiston, N.Y., in a tractor-trailer with the aid of two accomplices on June 27, 2001.

U.S. immigration officials caught al Marabh, who was carrying fake Canadian citizenship papers, and gave him to Canadian authorities, who released him on bail. He later found his way to Detroit and suburban Chicago, where he applied for a job to drive a tractor-trailer.

When he was arrested in Burbank, he was wanted by Boston police for violating his parole in a stabbing there.

Raed Hijazi--convicted of conspiring to bomb tourist sites in Jordan that Americans and Israelis visited--identified al Marabh as a bin Laden agent, authorities said. Hijazi has said he and al Marabh worked at the same cab company in Boston in the late 1990s after meeting in Afghanistan.

A federal law-enforcement source said Tuesday that al Marabh is still considered to be a "very bad guy," but that prosecutors in Buffalo, N.Y., did not have enough evidence to pursue more serious charges.

The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service has ordered al Marabh deported to Syria, where he had claimed citizenship in 1994 while unsuccessfully applying for political asylum in Canada.

Under federal sentencing guidelines, al Marabh faces two to eight months in prison. But he will probably receive credit for the time he has served and be expelled from the United States after his Oct. 17 sentencing hearing in Buffalo, Gromis said.

Al Marabh's lawyer, Marianne Mariano, has asked the judge to speed up sentencing She could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Like al Marabh, several other people arrested in the Sept. 11 investigation are being held without terrorism-related charges against them, raising concerns from some civil rights groups that investigators might be overreaching. Among those suspects:

* Jose Padilla was arrested March 8 in Chicago on suspicion he was working with al-Qaida terrorists on a plan to detonate a radioactive "dirty" bomb in the United States. The former Chicago gang member is being held without charges in a Navy brig in Charleston, S.C., as an "enemy combatant."

31 posted on 09/19/2002 5:50:08 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Eva; Paul Ross
That reminds me of a Sopranos episode from the second season in which Anthony Junior is at his confirmation party talking with Big Pussy Bonpensiero. Anthony Jr. expresses his doubts about life and about his father. Big Pussy then launches into a speech about how Tony Soprano is the best friend he's ever had and how great a man he is. While Pussy is delivering this speech he is wearing a wire, and we see the FBI guys listening to every word in the van across the street. At the end of the episode, the last thing we see is Pussy sitting by himself in the bathroom sobbing uncontrollably.
32 posted on 09/19/2002 8:19:54 PM PDT by ganesha
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Federal prosecutors believe a Lackawanna man was writing about an impending terrorist attack on Americans when he sent an e-mail titled "The Big Meal" to a local friend two months ago.

"The next meal will be very huge," Mukhtar al-Bakri wrote in the July 18 computer message. "No one will be able to withstand it, except those with faith."

The thought just crossed my mind that these crypto-terrorists may be talking about an attack on Thanksgiving Day. They are big on symbolism.

33 posted on 09/30/2002 2:23:10 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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