Lingering Muslim Extremism Perplexes Tolerant Germany: Nazi History Inhibits Debate

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | 9-20-02 | IAN JOHNSON

[SJackson]

HAMBURG, Germany -- Riad Barakat sits in a small restaurant shaking his head at the almost entirely Muslim clientele. "Look at the women, their shoulders showing," he says. "They will not go to heaven. These people are dirt."

But one former local Muslim, he says, is surely in paradise: Mohamed Atta, thought to be the pilot of the first plane that hit the World Trade Center. "After the attacks, 71,000 people converted to Islam. That will give him a pass to heaven," Mr. Barakat says. "He was a true martyr."

[Trickyguy]

Forced immigration? How about forced deportation? That's the only answer for Muslims.

[AzJP]

Seems like professional perpetual welfare brats are a problem regardless of religion/politics/ethnicity/country etc.

Golly, imagine that.

kj

[Illbay]

Decline and Fall.

[Guillermo]

Churches, Center, and Left parties are 100% complicit in the Islamization of Germany.

It's time for Germans to forget about WWII and start dealing with the trash Mohammedans.

[Destructor]

Guess what Fritz- they're coming after you too! Better get your priorities in order fast!!

[js1138]

Speaking of terrorist nests, did anyone see Hannity and Colmes last night?

[SandfleaCSC]

All you hear out of Muslim culture is "honor" and how important it is to them. Yet every single one of those snakes that make it to the TV seem to be taking welfare handouts. Having the government support you and your family is the biggest blow to manhood and honor I can think of. Anyone else see the irony in this?

[Faraday]

Is it a surprise that a nation which is susceptible to socialism of both the Nazi and Communist varieties is impotent in the face of a religious totalitarianism? They think cultural suicide is superior to a culture of freedom. May America avoid this fate.

[D. Miles]

Since Barakat doesn't care where he lives, maybe he'd like to be sent back to his country of origin???? German people need to say...pay your own way or get out!

[AzJP]

Don't agree with a thing you said. Have a nice weekend. Adios.

kj

[Behind Liberal Lines]

The other thing to consider is that there is enough lingering anti Semitism in Germany that it is hard for the government and the population to get excited over Muslims.

Sort of that whole enemy of my enemy is my friend thing.

[MissouriForBush]

I agree with everything Sandflea said. He's a smart man.

Maybe it's because I live in Germany and am seeing the extremist Islamic welfare scroungers with my own eyes.

[o_zarkman44]

"Welfare checks help make such benevolence possible. Mr. Barakat receives about $2,500 a month in payments from the government. He says he feeds his extended family's nine mouths on that and still managed to make a pilgrimage earlier this year to Mecca, in Saudi Arabia."

Ah yes, paid by the country to promote diversity that is needlessly rammed down the throats of Germans.

Mohammed Atta got a trip straight to hell along with his ethnic buddies so prayer is too late to help them. But the conversion of 70,000 people to Islam after Sept 11th is truely frightening. Wonder if they were intimidated into joining? God help us all if this is what motivates the Islamic religion. They surely have no fear of what real hell can be.

[Goetz_von_Berlichingen]

"How about forced deportation?"

The problem with terrorists and their supporters is not where they live, but that they live. An Islamic fanatic in Hamburg is as dangerous as an Islamic fanatic in Riyadh. Kicking them out does not solve the problem, it simply re-locates it.

Send them to Allah.

[technochick99]

Mr. Barakat says the city around him is of no interest. Walking down Steindamm on his way home, he ignores a dazed junkie combing her hair. "I don't care where I live," he says. "I could be anywhere."

Riiight. As long as they pay you $2500/month...

[Thommas]

Mr. Barakat says the city around him is of no interest. Walking down Steindamm on his way home, he ignores a dazed junkie combing her hair. "I don't care where I live," he says. "I could be anywhere."

What really sucks, as well as drawing the $2,500 a month from the local, braindead socialist welfare state, is that he IS everywhere. He's not just in Germany, and Great Britain, and France, and the Phillipines, but also next door and down the street.

I don't buy this 1% crap either; has anyone heard any significant imam or Muslim hetman denounce UBL, the al Quada, or anti-Semitism, or anti-Christianism? Not that I've noticed...

[aculeus]

Anger-inducing ping.

[general_re]

Many academics, who play more of a role in shaping opinion here than their counterparts do in the U.S., disagree with Mr. Tibi, asserting that the Sept. 11 plot was an anomaly and that Germany doesn't have a Muslim-extremist problem. "They are harmless," says Werner Schiffauer, a sociology professor at the European University Viadrina in Frankfurt on the Oder, who has written extensively on Islamic radicals.

It's a sad truth, but I've found that people who have to be persuaded to save their own butts are rarely worth the trouble it takes to convince them of same. The Germans will figure out the danger from radical, unassimilated Muslims, or they will be destroyed. But there's nothing we can do, and nothing I can do, other than to give thanks that the German side of my family found a place in the New World....

[knews_hound]

Please let any and all of your German friends know...

People like me and my family, who will be traveling in Europe will avoid at all costs, ANY trip to Germany.

I was a Soldier once opon a time, stationed in Germany, and was seriously thinking about spending some time and most importantly MONEY in Germany during our upcoming trip.

I can state categorically that we shall spend not even a single Pfenning in Gemany.

When I think of the hardships that we soldiers endured for that country and to then have them slap us in the face for the sake of a political race I want to barf.

Screw Germany....

The Italians will be getting my $10,000.00 Dollars this trip.

Cheers,

knews hound

[dighton]

Mr. Barakat receives about $2,500 a month in payments from the government.

With suicide as with everything else, the Germans are exceptionally thorough.

[BlueLancer]

"With suicide as with everything else, the Germans are exceptionally thorough."

But, like the Nazis, I bet the paperwork is extremely accurate and the paper trail complete. (Ain't bureaucracy grand?!)

It shouldn't be too hard to find out who's to blame after the impending Islamic explosion occurs in Germany.

[MissouriForBush]

I agree with you. Most Italians are pro-American. The Italians and British deserve our tourist dollars.

[labowski]

Muslims don't integrate, they infiltrate, that is part of
their religion and objective of taking over the world.