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THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS BEYOND CORRUPT, IT'S ALSO EVIL WARNS JIM ROBINSON IN SCATHING ATTACK OF TRUTH
freerepublic ^ | 9/21/2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 09/21/2002 11:39:06 AM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: Jim Robinson
But the Rats were the minority in both instances... the Republicans either had no gonads, or they are just as corrupt, and if not complicit, then blackmailable to the point of silence. Either way, we lost.

I wish I knew the answer to our problems, but I don't. What I do know is that it doesn't seem to matter who we put into office. So why not just vote conscience?

421 posted on 09/22/2002 3:08:59 PM PDT by Critter
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To: Jim Robinson
Number one, eliminate the income tax (and the SS tax) and implement an excise tax as the founders intended.

The Founders preferred tariffs, not excise taxes.

"The excise law is an infernal one. The first error was to admit it by the Constitution; the second, to act on that admission; the third and last will be, to make it the instrument of dismembering the Union, and setting us all afloat to choose what part of it we will adhere to."

 --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1794. ME 9:295


422 posted on 09/22/2002 3:10:22 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Torie
Well, the current social security recipients (and those about to retire) are going to have to receive what they paid for. They paid for retirement "insurance" through forced payroll deductions all of their working lives and are entitled to receive the benefits.

However, this needs to be phased out. Nothing in the Constitution empowers the government to be in the insurance business and they fail miserably when they try anyway. If we want to have retirement insurance, let the private sector market it.

In the meantime, we'll need to find ways to fund the current unfunded SS liability. I'd start by cutting all unconstitutional and superfluous government programs (in other words, most of them).

Next, I've seen suggestions that we sell off government assets to raise cash. This might be a good idea, I don't know. Possibly worth looking into. Don't flood the market, but sell off as we can.

Also, perhaps sell long-term government bonds and use the proceeds to fund the current "entitlement?" Yes, this creates public debt (actually just shifts the debt because we already have the liability), but it's better than the current ponzi scheme. At least it's not forced. And, it can be controlled and phased out over thirty years or so via the long-term selling off of existing government assets (if that is feasible) and or the phased shifting to private insurance companies.

Encourage people to use part of their tax savings to buy the bonds or purchase the insurance or otherwise invest their money. You cannot force people to save for retirement, but you can encourage it, and you can make it attractive. But more than that, you have to educate the people and allow them the freedom to fend for themselves.

423 posted on 09/22/2002 3:19:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Who ever said that people have to retire anyway? If they don't save enough to retire, they get to work til they die.

Awwwww tooo bad, huh? :)

424 posted on 09/22/2002 3:28:04 PM PDT by Critter
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To: Critter
Yes it does matter. How soon they forget.

The Democrats are the party of slime, corruption, socialism, high taxes, high spending, weakened national security, Godlessness, homosexualism, perversion, feminism, wholesale liberal propagandizing, international sovereignty robbing treaties, power grabs, land grabs, gun grabs, socialized medicine, socialized programs from A to Z, and worst of all, the evil of government sanctioned and funded murder in the womb.

The Republican Party is opposed to all of that.

There may be individual Republicans who are weak or wrong on the issues, but they are individuals. That is not the Party. There are very few Democrats who are right. The Democrat Party is itself corrupt and evil. It attracts evil and corrupt politicians. Socialism is their goal.

Vote the RATs out.

425 posted on 09/22/2002 3:31:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
There is absolutely zero excuse for anyone who claims to be conservative to not vote Republican this time around. There is way too much at stake to risk allowing the Democrats control of the House or Senate.

Keep preaching Jim (HOLLER it even)...because it would appear there are MANY who accuse you and I and others who understand this necessity... of being NOT true Conservatives. In fact, that seems to be the pejorative of choice these days. Their last jab is usually, YOU are NOT a true conservative if...yada yada yada. Or the alternative, "YOU do NOT believe in the Constitution."

426 posted on 09/22/2002 3:31:57 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Critter
Something like that. No one ever promised a rose garden.
427 posted on 09/22/2002 3:32:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I'll take that back. The garden is promised in a future life. But there are prerequisites.
428 posted on 09/22/2002 3:34:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Willie Green
The Founders preferred tariffs, not excise taxes.

They weren't Free Traders? Gasp!

429 posted on 09/22/2002 3:35:30 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Willie Green
Well, unfortunately or fortunately (depending on your viewpoint on tariffs), Tom did not always get his way.

Article I. Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

430 posted on 09/22/2002 3:38:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
And, I'll take that back. A duty is a tariff.
432 posted on 09/22/2002 3:39:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: thrcanbonly1
No you may not. Don't post it again.
433 posted on 09/22/2002 3:40:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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434 posted on 09/22/2002 3:58:43 PM PDT by TheGrimReaper
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To: carenot
Given, McCaine is a mutineer and is in the wrong party. But if Miller is conservative, ask him how he can justify being part of the Democrat Party. Is he anti-America, anti-Constitution, anti-first and second amendments, and anti-life? If he is conservative, perhaps offer a trade? We'll take Miller and they can have McCaine.

435 posted on 09/22/2002 4:05:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: nopardons; leprechaun9
See this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/755130/posts?page=82#82

436 posted on 09/22/2002 4:13:44 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Jim Robinson
We'll take Miller and they can have McCaine.

Sweeten the deal. Give 'em Riordan too.

437 posted on 09/22/2002 4:13:52 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: sneakers
Thank you! Straight GOP is the way to go, imho. I've voted straight ticket for quite a while now. I know many folks disagree, but either you're a Conservative or you're a Liberal or you're a Libertarian. I see myself in only one of those categories. I realized when I was 14-15 years old that I was a Conservative. My first vote was for Richard Nixon in '72.
438 posted on 09/22/2002 4:19:13 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, unfortunately or fortunately (depending on your viewpoint on tariffs), Tom did not always get his way.

True. The Federal Monarchist Alexander Hamilton managed to ram through a 25% excise tax on whiskey in 1791. This collection of this unpopular tax was largely ignored in throughout the American "back-country": that is, the frontier areas of Maryland, Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, and the entire state of Kentucky. Only in Western Pennsylvania did there exist a cdre of wealthy officials who were willing to collect the taxes. This led to what is known as the "Whiskey Rebellion" of 1794.

Thomas Jefferson resigned his post of Secretary of State in 1793, in part, in protest because George Washington was agreeing too much with Hamilton and the Federalists. On May 30th, 1794, seventy-five distillers were summoned to Philadelphia on charges of tax evasion. What made the pill more bitter for them to swallow was the suspicion that some of the men had been selected for punishment more for their Jeffersonian views and criticism of Hamilton than for tax evasion. By August 7, 1794, George Washington, with Hamilton by his side, led an army of some 12,950 men into western Pennsylvania and easily "put down" the revolt.

Using an army of nearly 13,000 men, twenty "rebels" were arrested on trumped up charges of treason.
Of the twenty rebels arrested, none were found guilty.

By November 17, 1794 Hamilton wrotes to Washington from western Pennsylvania that "the list of prisoners has been very considerably increased, probably to the amount of 150. . . . Subsequent intelligence shews that there is no regular assemblage of the fugitives . . . only small vagrant parties . . . affording no point of Attack. Every thing is urging for the return of the troops." And on November 19, 1794 Hamilton notified Washington that the army "is generally in motion homeward," leaving behind a regiment to maintain order.

The Whiskey Rebellion was actually widespread and successful, for it eventually forced the federal government to repeal the excise tax. Opposition to the federal excise tax program was one of the causes of the emerging Democrat-Republican Party, and of the Jeffersonian "Revolution" of 1800. Indeed, one of the accomplishments of the first Jefferson term as president was to repeal the entire Federalist excise tax program

439 posted on 09/22/2002 4:44:05 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: NH Liberty
Naturally! but if you called them socialists you would be labled "extreme" "out of touch" and any other name they can think of, of course the fact that they do that is straight out of Lenin. A great book you may wish to read is "America's 30 years War" who is winning. Balint Vazsonyi. his web site: http://www.founding.org/">
440 posted on 09/22/2002 4:50:51 PM PDT by Burlem
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