Drug Czar on Anti-Marijuana Crusade

The Week Online ^ | September 20, 2002 | Phil Smith

[KDD]

Used in Past Month
Cocaine...1.2 million
Crack...265 thousand
Heroin...130 thousand

The number of hard drug users in this country is too small to allow for a profitable Drug War. If we devoted our resources to these hard drugs, the war might be won...and we can't have that can we.

[KDD]

I don't care to hear about your hippie hangup Dane.

[dread78645]

Hide da white wimmin bookmark

[Dane]

The number of hard drug users in this country is too small to allow for a profitable Drug War. If we devoted our resources to these hard drugs, the war might be won...and we can't have that can we.

And the number is much smaller than in 1979. Looks like it is being won.

Oh BTW, is pot an integral part of the drug culture that sprang up with the 60's counterculture or not.

I would like to see your answer. As for my answer pot is an integral part of the drug culture and it is time to quash the spwan of that culture, the modern Democratic party to rest through the electoral process.

[Dane]

I don't care to hear about your hippie hangup Dane.

Uh you should. That "hippie hangup" includes the Clintons and the people who are driving the modern Democratic party.

Oh well, I guess "pot uber alles" rules your thinking.

[KDD]

Oh BTW, is pot an integral part of the drug culture that sprang up with the 60's counterculture or not.

I,m old enough to remember that it was the Black Jazz R+B musician culture that was a danger to white America...especially white women, who lost control of their sexual urges while shooting pot and watching the sinful hip movements of BLACK men playing their horns.

Hippies came later...out of the anti-war movement, not the drug "culture".

Think Lenny Bruce, not Abby Hoffman.

[dark_lord]

As for my answer pot is an integral part of the drug culture and it is time to quash the spwan of that culture, the modern Democratic party to rest through the electoral process.

I don't want to jump in on this stimulating back and forth but I have a question about your statement. It appears that you feel that "drug culture" == "democratic party"? Also, I couldn't parse what you meant by "to rest through the electoral process"?

[KDD]

Oh well, I guess "pot uber alles" rules your thinking.

Logic rules my thinking.

Emotion rules yours.

[Dane]

Hippies came later...out of the anti-war movement, not the drug "culture".

Really? The hippies(Clintons, etc.) sure did embrace the drug culture.

Or are you going to deny that?

[Zon]

If marijuana makes you stupid what does that say about someone who declares war on it, inanimate object that it is, and is losing?

Don't kid yourself, it's a war on people.

[Dane]

Logic rules my thinking.

Emotion rules yours.

IMO, your "logic" does not include history. Hey if you want to repeat the "60's", knock yourself out, but you can at least be honest about it.

[Roscoe]

What's your point?

That the "medical marijuana" ploy is being used by people who want to legalize marijuana, cynically.

[KDD]

Really? The hippies(Clintons, etc.) sure did embrace the drug culture.

More people were arrested and imprisoned for marijuana offences during the Clinton Administration then under any administration before it. If Clinton was pro-drug, it sure didn't show in his administration of the D.E.A. or Justice.

[Zon]

"The claim that marijuana is an efficacious medicine is a lie," he told a Detroit news conference. "It is used by people who want to legalize marijuana, cynically."

Exactly.

17 posted on 9/21/02 4:09 PM Eastern by Roscoe

This forum is used by people that want the power to initiate force, fraud and coercion against people or seek to enlist government agents to initiate force, fraud and threat of force against people on their behalf.

[KDD]

It appears your study of history is limited to a single decade of this countries history. The "evil hippie era of the 60's". You need to read beyound that point Dane.

[Dane]

More people were arrested and imprisoned for marijuana offences during the Clinton Administration then under any administration before it. If Clinton was pro-drug, it sure didn't show in his administration of the D.E.A. or Justice

The old and tiresome "Clinton was uber drug warrior" agruement.

You and I know that the Clinton's care about one thing and that thing is power. Clinton would have committed political suicide if he would have endorsed your agenda, although no one would doubt that he sympathized with the drug culture.

That is Clintonism in a nutshell, doing anything to stay in power, but endorsing Clintonian "true" views in private such as having pro-drug socialist friends such as George Soros.

[Libloather]

Have the Liberteens registered their comments on the war on terrorism yet? How about the war on crime?

[Roscoe]

"There never was a government without force. What is the meaning of government? An institution to make people do their duty. A government leaving it to a man to do his duty or not, as he pleases, would be a new species of government, or rather no government at all." -- James Madison

[Dane]

It appears your study of history is limited to a single decade of this countries history. The "evil hippie era of the 60's". You need to read beyound that point Dane

You need to take a look at the modern Democratic party. The "60's" drives their whole agenda, IMO.

[KDD]

That is Clintonism in a nutshell, doing anything to stay in power

To many of us...the drug war itself is a huge Clintonian exercise.