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New Law Seeks To Reduce Obesity
AP ^ | 21 September 2002 | AP

Posted on 09/23/2002 8:20:34 AM PDT by Asmodeus

(Albany-AP, September 21, 2002) — Low fat New Yorkers might be healthier for the state budget. This week, the governor signed the Obesity Prevention Act into law. It asks the Health Department to find ways to help New Yorkers get healthier, reduce obesity and cut the cost to the state.

Officials say two out of every ten New Yorkers, more than three million people, are obese. It's the second leading cause of preventable death after smoking, and causes illnesses from diabetes to some cancers.

The American Obesity Association says the cost of obesity to public health systems across the nation is $100 billion a year.

Fifteen other states have passed legislation on everything from childhood obesity to health awareness campaigns.

The state Health Department is expected to report its findings next June. Then legislators will put together a plan to help New Yorkers deal with their expanding waist lines.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigbrother

1 posted on 09/23/2002 8:20:34 AM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
More fuel for fast food lawsuits
2 posted on 09/23/2002 8:24:40 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
I'm skinny- I want a tax cut!! (well, it was worth a try)
3 posted on 09/23/2002 8:25:27 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Asmodeus
Paging Dr. Atkins...
4 posted on 09/23/2002 8:29:40 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Asmodeus
The American Obesity Association says the cost of obesity to public health systems across the nation is $100 billion a year.

I say let's sue fat people. If they're using that much of a PUBLIC resource by their irresponsible behavior, they should be the ones ponying up.

Really. Two teenagers suing McD/Wendys/BK/KFC for their obesity? What were their parents doing to control the kids' diets?

5 posted on 09/23/2002 8:29:47 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: Asmodeus
here's a thought: how 'bout a law that seeks to reduce stupidity? That way we'd be free of laws (and wastes of tax money) like this.
6 posted on 09/23/2002 8:30:49 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: Asmodeus; All
It's time to call a spade a spade. The people behind this kind of legislation are out to destroy the country. This is not "nanny" legislation, folks. It's a deliberate attack on our free enterprise capitalistic system, our industries, our freedoms, and our way of life. Laugh it off at the cost of all you hold dear.
7 posted on 09/23/2002 8:37:28 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Asmodeus
Yes! Enacting more laws has done a great job in curing society's ills so far. Why stop now?
8 posted on 09/23/2002 8:37:36 AM PDT by Skwidd
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To: WindMinstrel
Hear, hear, WindMinstrel!
9 posted on 09/23/2002 8:39:11 AM PDT by WileyC
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To: Lion's Cub
Yep
10 posted on 09/23/2002 8:41:03 AM PDT by weikel
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To: NautiNurse
More fuel for fast food lawsuits

And they said this would and could never happen...... we smokers knew better.

11 posted on 09/23/2002 8:49:15 AM PDT by Great Dane
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'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and -- one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency -- bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years.

- "1984", Chapter 3

12 posted on 09/23/2002 8:49:16 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: Asmodeus
Create a sin tax for junk food and ban fat people from eating inside public buildings...make them eat their lunches in alleyways & have "Fat" sections in restaurants...put up billboards that villianize fat people and teach kids in school that fat people are bad.
13 posted on 09/23/2002 8:51:06 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Create a sin tax for junk food...

Or, you could use diet and exercise to keep yourself fit and healthy, all the while realizing that in a free country, what other people eat is none of your damned business.

14 posted on 09/23/2002 8:55:02 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
...start a "We ID" program with minimum age 18 to purchase potato chips, candy bars, and ice cream.
15 posted on 09/23/2002 8:55:23 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: Asmodeus
This week, the governor signed the Obesity Prevention Act into law.

This HAS to be a joke. Fat people are fat because they eat food!

16 posted on 09/23/2002 8:58:06 AM PDT by BulletBrasDotNet
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To: WindMinstrel
here's a thought: how 'bout a law that seeks to reduce stupidity?

We already have something just as ineffective. It's called the "Department of Education."

17 posted on 09/23/2002 9:00:18 AM PDT by BulletBrasDotNet
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To: Asmodeus
I can visualize where this is heading...

The year, 2007

The place, a fast food restaurant on the 'watch list'.

A young, blonde, thin FG (Fattengruppen) officer strides up and down the aisle, occasionally stopping and curtly snapping his fingers in the face of a diner.

Those diners promptly hand over their DFRC's, (Daily Food Record Cards) which the FG officer examines and returns.

Until he arrives at a table occupied by a pudgy housewife, who takes a moment too long to hide the fries...

Seizing the fries, our young officer follows up with a vicious slashing attack on the Rotund Roxanne using his riding crop.

He mashes the fries against a menu, smearing them in a circle until the fat they contain renders the thin paper transparent.

Holding the menu between his eyes and the sobbing woman's eyes he mocks her, "It vould appear that you haff been eating zumthing forbidden, yes?"

As the emaciated guards take her in charge there's a sudden crashing noise at the door...

In rush three bloated, middle-aged men wearing pullover shirts with horizontal stripes and berets, armed with Sten guns.

The restaurant is demolished afterward, yes.

But Fattengruppen Uberweasel Schmidt is not alive to see the bulldozers do their work.

18 posted on 09/23/2002 9:02:46 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: Asmodeus
the Obesity Prevention Act

This has got to be out of "The Onion."

There's no way that this could even be remotely close to being true...

19 posted on 09/23/2002 9:03:24 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Asmodeus
Can the Commerce Clause be used to outlaw any food product with a fat content over a certain percentage?
20 posted on 09/23/2002 9:06:27 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: freeeee
" what other people eat is none of your damned business. "

But their fatness affects my health and raises my taxes...my blood pressure goes up when I am forced to sit next to one on an airplane, and the excess trash and garbage they generate puts a disproportionate strain on our garbage dumps

21 posted on 09/23/2002 9:06:46 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: NautiNurse
All New Yorkers should be doing whatever it takes to get this law repealed.
This is aimed at destroying the fast food industry.
If this keeps up you won't be able to buy a "deep fried Twinkie" at the fair anymore.

Picture the only fast food available: Official N.Y. State Rice Cake Drivethrough.
22 posted on 09/23/2002 9:07:25 AM PDT by philetus
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Could food ration stamps be issued to them, so they are only able to buy a certain amount per month?
23 posted on 09/23/2002 9:09:02 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Asmodeus

Meet the Ideal.

24 posted on 09/23/2002 9:09:14 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
But their fatness affects my health and raises my taxes

It doesn't affect your health.

And when given the choice between fighting taxes or micromanaging people's lives, you choose the latter.

Why is that?

25 posted on 09/23/2002 9:11:43 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: Lion's Cub
Exactly right. They could NOT come after food, autos, etc. right off the bat, so they started with the hated smoking. I was never a smoker, but it's almost enough to make me start. Are we going to have "calorie nazis?"
26 posted on 09/23/2002 9:12:31 AM PDT by LS
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To: freeeee
Are you nuts? I am trying to illustrate a parallel with the anti-smoking Nazis
27 posted on 09/23/2002 9:13:36 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Sorry, the nanny types are so far out there, they can easily be mistaken for 'devils advocate' types.
28 posted on 09/23/2002 9:16:59 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: Asmodeus
The cost benefits of attacking smoking and obesity are a bunch of eye-wash. It costs just as much to hospitalize someone who dies at 70 as someone who dies at 40 or 50. It's unfortunate for them, but it doesn't necessarily add to the cost of everyone's insurance or taxes.

If someone is prevented from dying of lung cancer, then they'll die a little later of something else. Or maybe they'll contract something really expensive, like kidney failure or AIDS.

So, there may be arguments for good health, but public health costs isn't a legitimate one.

Liberals hate to admit it, but in the end, everyone dies. So far, at least.
29 posted on 09/23/2002 9:23:17 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: philetus
Hate to be such a cynic in this case, but I have little hope that common sense will prevail in a state where vagabond Hitlery was elected to the U.S. senate.
30 posted on 09/23/2002 9:23:21 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: freeeee
"the nanny types are so far out there, they can easily be mistaken for 'devils advocate' types"

The nannys drive me nuts too. Every whine they come up with could be altered to attack any group. No one stands up to them. We have a local Walgreens that is carding EVERYONE who asks for a pack of cigarettes...a 72-year old lady was carded last week for trying to buy a cigar for her husband.

31 posted on 09/23/2002 9:31:39 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: freeeee
Searchable 1984 online.
32 posted on 09/23/2002 9:32:51 AM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
If they are going to make being obese illegal I'm going to start lobbying for a law to ban idiocy.

My guess is the irony will be utterly wasted on the NYS legislature.

33 posted on 09/23/2002 9:36:02 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
a 72-year old lady was carded last week for trying to buy a cigar for her husband.

I'll never forget seeing an ancient man, leaning on a cane, being turned down for a single beer at a hockey game because he didn't have proper ID.

34 posted on 09/23/2002 9:36:57 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: Asmodeus
Thanks for the link.
35 posted on 09/23/2002 9:39:58 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: tcostell
Start working on a list of ways that idiots affect public health (your own in particular), and place additional burdens on our economy. Why stop there? Make a similar list for politicians (oops--same thing)
36 posted on 09/23/2002 9:40:59 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Asmodeus
How about New York instead passing a law banning obesity in the state's government? For that matter, how about Washington passing a law banning obesity in the federal government? I do believe the proper dietary coordinates are found in the Constitution...

Oops! Forgot. Government's allowed to get as fat as it damn well pleases. And we're allowed to shut up and deal with it.

The road to Damnocratic hell is paved with Republican't good intentions...
37 posted on 09/23/2002 9:47:04 AM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: freeeee
Fools, or peons on power trips. I probably would have given him my beer.
38 posted on 09/23/2002 9:48:58 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Lion's Cub
This is not "nanny" legislation, folks. It's a deliberate attack on our free enterprise capitalistic system, our industries, our freedoms, and our way of life. Laugh it off at the cost of all you hold dear.

Yes! It's another way to break the capitalist economy down another notch and also bring "more" money into the government's hands for their choice of redistribution (or laundering). It's one more step toward that totalitarian regime the elite would love to control.

Unfortunately, I've got a feeling this will go through just like it did with the Tobacco industry. We've already elected too many "rats" and we aren't doing anything as a people to get them out of office. I doubt much will change as the decline and fall of the Roman Empire....I mean United States......continues. How sad it is that I have to watch it during my lifetime and pass it on to my children. I keep looking for a movement to stop the cycle, and I just don't see one.

39 posted on 09/23/2002 10:00:13 AM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Asmodeus
Video Cameras everywhere

More and more people wanting government reparations

Governmental attacks on personal vices

Politispeak

Need a sequel to 1984, 2004

40 posted on 09/23/2002 10:03:31 AM PDT by breakem
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To: Asmodeus; SheLion
Wow, what a shock that the same state that has the same city that wants to ban all smoking is now going after fat people.

Will the shocking wonders never cease? < sarcasm >

I wonder how many FReepers who deride and mock the "smoking" FReepers for getting all worked up about the anti-smoking laws are laughing at this?

Maybe some are; maybe they're thin too, so they don't care about this either. Well.........whatever....< sigh>....I guess some are comfortable with the RINO title.
41 posted on 09/23/2002 10:09:08 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Wow... now that's good analogizing!
42 posted on 09/23/2002 10:09:41 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
Unfortunately, I've got a feeling this will go through just like it did with the Tobacco industry.

This is just the "study", but we already know what some of the recommendations will be. We've seen the general blueprint via the tobacco laws.

I think they are already banning soft drinks, candy, and vending machines in some of the schools, though I don't know how widespread it is yet.

43 posted on 09/23/2002 10:25:56 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Lil'freeper
I'm skinny- I want a tax cut!! (well, it was worth a try)

I'm with you on that, will we skinny people get a rebate for keeping our weight down ?
44 posted on 09/23/2002 10:28:09 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Lion's Cub
This is the way by which they will control the FOOD SUPPLY.
Population control, anyone?
45 posted on 09/23/2002 10:49:33 AM PDT by doberville
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Another good statist idea.
46 posted on 09/23/2002 10:54:40 AM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Lion's Cub
Very well said.
47 posted on 09/23/2002 10:57:19 AM PDT by Liberal Classic
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To: Asmodeus
If the justification for this is because it "cost" the government money in health, I have a simpler suggestion.

The government should not be taxing one person to pay for the health cost of another, so get the government out of providing health care.

48 posted on 09/23/2002 10:58:56 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: freeeee; Eowyn-of-Rohan; Lion's Cub; FourtySeven; YoungKentuckyConservative; LS; DWSUWF; ...

a 72-year old lady was carded last week for trying to buy a cigar for her husband.

I'll never forget seeing an ancient man, leaning on a cane, being turned down for a single beer at a hockey game because he didn't have proper ID.

There was probably an ATF agent on the premise ready to bust the food vendor because his workers didn't ask every person for ID.

In other words, the Gestapo was looking over their shoulder.

From a related article: Who's making America so fat

"I never underestimate the ability of judges to come up with curious rulings," says Gifford of the Michigan Restaurant Association. "But clearly, if you sat around and listened to the average citizen talk about this (Barber) lawsuit, they realize it for being the frivolous shot at big money that it is and we're hopeful that judges and juries will treat it accordingly."

Here, I'll help.

Hamburgers, french-fries and soft drinks; don't they sell those in grocery stores as well as in restaurants? There are many companies that manufacture those products. Just as there are many companies that manufactured tobacco products. Lawyers attacked the tobacco manufacturers, not the retail sellers of tobacco products. Why suddenly have the fat-police going after the retail sellers/prepare rather than the manufactures? Because even the lawyers know they would be trounced by the food manufacturers. Archer Daniels Midland alone could crush all the lawyers.

Bottom line, carbohydrates stimulate overproduction of insulin that causes conversion of the carb to sugar (glucose) for use by the body. If the body does not need it immediately, it goes to fat. The body cannot make this same conversion with animal or plant fats and proteins.

Agree. The lawyers would never attack the government -- the hand that feeds them -- for advocating a bogus food pyramid.

49 posted on 09/23/2002 11:07:11 AM PDT by Zon
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To: Teacher317
Gee thanks--and from a teacher yet! ;)
50 posted on 09/23/2002 1:43:00 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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