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To: Red Jones
To me, americans are very foolish not to overwhelmingly require a voucher system.

It's the only possible way to get out of this. You identify the only weakness below:

Some people say that if we did that then muslim wahabis will have schools or that wickans or devil worshipers would have schools. The american born mainstream education professionals will do a lot more damage to america in their schools than these other small groups will do in their schools.

I don't see how a KKK, satanic or Wahabi school could be allowed. Then again, where do you draw the line and on what basis? I don't see a big demand for KKK or satanic schools, but Wahabbi schools are a possibility. One tentative theory that I've come up with is prohibiting vouchers to schools that advocate the overthrow of the government or the establishment of a federal religion.

102 posted on 09/26/2002 12:31:11 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Aquinasfan
"Some people say that if we did that then muslim wahabis will have schools or that wickans or devil worshipers would have schools."

This is the reason Hillary Clinton used against vouchers. It's a false argument. We have private schools today. I've never heard of a private devil worshipping school. Wicca happens to be a recognized religion. Muslims have their own private schools. There is one that opened up within the past couple of years in my county. It has an American flag at each entrance to the school.
103 posted on 09/26/2002 12:49:22 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Aquinasfan
thanks, according to our original understanding of the US constitution it is perfectly allowable and reasonable for the various states to pick and choose what religious organizations can run a taxpayer funded school and what can't. According to modern sensibilities, if we fund the catholics and the presbyterians and the jews and the fundamentalist christians, then we have to fund the wahabis and the devil worshopers.

When Thomas Jefferson was president of Univ of Virginia he required everyone to study theology, in fact that was a large portion of what they studied. They had 7 christian traditions to choose from. That's what Tom Jefferson considered freedom of religion. This was all taxpayer funded.

When public schools were first created in the very early 1800's in New England every parent was required to send their kids to public schools. When they said public schools they meant schools funded by taxpayers. These public schools were all run by churches. They were funded on a per-child basis, the more kids attending, the more funding you got. Parents were merely required to select the school and state would fund it with taxpayer money.

We did away with this original concept of public schools in mid-1800's because of intolerance for catholics.

When Thomas Jefferson was president a citizen wrote him a letter and asked him the state of Pennsylvania could establish Quakerism as the state religion as the citizen favored. Jefferson wrote back and said that certainly if the authorities chose to declare the quaker religion as the state religion, then they were allowed to do that because the constitution provided a 'wall between church and state' to allow that. This is the original source for that phrase. Jefferson used it to describe the exact opposite of what liberals today use it for.

Americans wake up!!! Your children are being destroyed in public schools by people whose sentiments are marxist.
104 posted on 09/26/2002 2:04:42 PM PDT by Red Jones
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