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Government had missile in Murrah building
The Oklahoman ^ | 2002-09-26 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/26/2002 6:10:37 PM PDT by tomball

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To: Poohbah
Well, it was as inert as it could be. Would you forbid agents to store ammunition for their sidearms in the building?

This is just completely disingenuous. Inert? It was a live rocket motor. Are you seriously comparing the rocket motor of a TOW missile to a handful of 9mm or .45ACP rounds?

62 posted on 09/27/2002 9:34:04 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: TigersEye
This is just completely disingenuous. Inert? It was a live rocket motor.

With most of the fuel gone--that's about as inert as you get.

Are you seriously comparing the rocket motor of a TOW missile to a handful of 9mm or .45ACP rounds?

No, to several cases of 9MM. That would compare quite nicely to a largely-defueled missile.

But, back to the main question: where do you store the weapon while you're setting up the sting?

63 posted on 09/27/2002 9:41:31 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah; glorygirl; aristeides; honway; Fred Mertz
Excerpt from the article:

The Customs Service acknowledged it possessed the TOW missile in the Murrah building.

Conclusion from Poohbah’s reply # 17:

The missile was going to be used in a sting. Since the stinging agency was Customs, the sting probably targeted some furriners.

17 posted on 9/26/02 9:36 PM Central by Poohbah

question: which specific group of “furriners” in the Oklahoma City area do you think we in for the sting?

64 posted on 09/27/2002 9:50:35 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Poohbah
...largely-defueled missile.

I missed that the first time I read through. Conceded. My bad, sorry.

But, back to the main question: where do you store the weapon while you're setting up the sting?

How about a Nat. Guard Armory? (Unless someone there was the subject of the sting.) I think it would be reasonable to pick it up there as the operation was set in motion and return it there, for safe keeping, afterwards. Fed agencies can cooperate that much can't they? I was thinking any secure storage facility away from a large building full of people. Guess I'm just overly cautious.

65 posted on 09/27/2002 9:52:02 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: Poohbah; All
But, back to the main question: where do you store the weapon while you're setting up the sting?

While that was MY main question in my asides to you let's not lose sight of the bigger question this article begs to be asked:

Why was it necessary to deny and conceal for so long this seemingly benign information? It does seem poignantly suspicious that they have to point out this 'inert' rocket was several floors above the daycare center.

The article already establishes that 'conspiracy theorists' were right about this from the beginning.

It does make this new admission look like a strawman to divert attention away from questions of other explosives reportedly removed from the wreckage. Not to mention years of denial of ME involvement that now seems to be the governments own first suspicion confirmed by newly emerging witnesses.

66 posted on 09/27/2002 10:06:43 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: TigersEye
Why was it necessary to deny and conceal for so long this seemingly benign information?

I knew about this thing on the day of the bombing--it was all over the news at the time. I don't understand how you can say it was "denied" and "concealed" for so long.

It does seem poignantly suspicious that they have to point out this 'inert' rocket was several floors above the daycare center.

And, of course, the much larger truck bomb only one floor below the daycare center is completely unsuspicious. </sarcasm>

67 posted on 09/27/2002 10:12:00 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: aristeides
"And Ashcroft's haste to have McVeigh executed suggests what? "

And the recent thread here about Nichols not getting funding for his defense.
68 posted on 09/27/2002 10:29:16 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: WhirlwindAttack; Jim Robinson
I agree with WhirlwindAttack that OKCSubmariner should be restored.
69 posted on 09/27/2002 10:30:34 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Asmodeus; Woodstock
"But I believe this and flight 800 were two acts of terrorism in this country that our government just would not admit to."

Uh, oh, another non-believer in the center wing fuel tank theory.

70 posted on 09/27/2002 10:32:16 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Poohbah
And, of course, the much larger truck bomb only one floor below the daycare center is completely unsuspicious.

That's funny. But non-sequiter.

71 posted on 09/27/2002 10:34:50 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: tomball
But its discovery prompted an evacuation that slowed rescue efforts April 19, 1995, in part because the missile had been marked as live ordinance to make it look believable to the targets of a planned law enforcement sting, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

What sort of sting involves showing a missle to someone? Could the BATF be involved in luring people into a deal to purchase ordnance and then busting them for conspiracy?

72 posted on 09/27/2002 2:33:44 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
"What sort of sting involves showing a missle to someone?"

This is a good question and reflective of what I meant when I said the ramifications are almost beyond comprehension.

The other questions that begs to be asked is WHY Customs won't release details of the sting 7 1/2 years after the fact. Are they still worried about catching/prosecuting the suspects? If that's the case, exactly who are these suspects? And if not's the case, why not release the details? Most enforcement investigations do not last this long. I really hope people grasp the implications of this story. I can only figure that it's some kind of half-hearted attempt to "explain away" "conspiracy theories" or answer the WSJ story earlier this month.

Poohbah, I would like to echo thinden's question: what sort of "furriners" are you suggesting?

73 posted on 09/27/2002 5:39:26 PM PDT by glorygirl
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74 posted on 10/22/2002 8:15:53 PM PDT by timestax
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