[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Great points, 'Cut.

I'm trying to understand the far right on this -so far right they hate our POTUS - and maybe that's what drives them. It strikes me as odd that they can't put their hatred for President Bush on the back burner long enough to understand that it's their own protection and well being he is fighting for.

I thank God there are people in charge who recognize the threat (Condi Rice: "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud") and are willing to step up and deal with it. The left and the far right are shaking hands on this one. It's reckless and crazy thinking. I never thought I'd see the day when Freepers would hate a Republican president so much they'd be echoing Al Gore all over this forum, but here we are.

[Long Cut]

My belief is that they are of three camps:

1. Extreme Libertarians/Constitutionalists who want a declaration of war, and oppose on principle any pre-emptive attacks. On the declaration-of-war issue, they have some merit.

2. Pat Buchanan marks. They STILL seethe about his pathetic showings in elections, and blame Republicans. George Bush is their worst enemy, because they feel that he and his wing of the party "stole" it from Pat. They can be recognized by their almost-constant return to the issue of immigration reform and Israel.

3. Dedicated disruptors. Some are from DU, and simply CLAIM to be conservative, and some are without doubt posting from offices in Teheran, Beijing, and Baghdad. These can be recognized by their suggestions that we'd be better off voting for Democrats than "RINOs" like President Bush, and wild calls to boycott or attack Israel.

Just a few of my own observations. The sad part is, the first two provide information and intellectual ammunition to the third (suggestion of which, of course, triggers the "offended" response").