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DON'T FEAR ARAB ARMIES
New York Post ^ | 9/30/02 | JAMES A. LACEY

Posted on 09/30/2002 2:10:01 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:09:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DURING the Gulf War, Israel absorbed 39 Iraqi Scud missiles without retaliation. In recent days, senators from both parties have raised the alarm that an Israeli response this time around would lead to a wider war - we'd find ourselves fighting the entire Arab world.


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To: RaceBannon
That's why GOD and Dupont created Napalm, It would make a TARGET RICH ENVIRNOMENT !!!!
21 posted on 09/30/2002 6:14:38 AM PDT by Robe
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To: RaceBannon
Actually, Israel has been in a far worse position. In 1948, she had 16,000 soldiers (most of whom had little or no training), 10,000 rifles and faced a well-equipped and well-trained Arab league which had more than 100,000 soldiers. Eight months laters, Israel managed to end the fight.
22 posted on 09/30/2002 6:31:35 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: All
It is very foolish to underestimate the enemy.
23 posted on 09/30/2002 6:42:13 AM PDT by chukcha
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To: jimtorr
A modern army just has too much firepower.

Like the AC-110 gun ship?

24 posted on 09/30/2002 6:47:28 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: kattracks
This is ridiculous. Hasn't this guy heard of September 11 when these scumbags attacked America.
25 posted on 09/30/2002 6:57:19 AM PDT by adam stevens
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26 posted on 09/30/2002 7:17:46 AM PDT by William McKinley
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To: jimtorr
Just imagine the carnage a flight of AC130s would do to a massed army of riflemen in the open. Truly shooting fish in a barrel. And that does not even count the most devastating components of the US arsenal.
27 posted on 09/30/2002 7:22:15 AM PDT by astounded
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To: kattracks
Some of the comparisons to Korea and Vietnam just don't apply here. In the desert, there is no place to hide from our overwhelming air power. Desert warfare with the United States would only bring about complete destruction of the arab armies. I'm picturing napalm, daisy cutters, cluster bombs.... Much like the '91 Gulf War, they would be decimated long before they ever got a close up view of the American infantry. It is true that Egypt has the most military power of the bunch, but they have voiced their opinion recently that they are not interested in taking on the Israeli's solo. And the rest of the Arab states are either too broke or too disorganized to join in.
28 posted on 09/30/2002 9:24:04 AM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: kattracks
But they'd have to cross the Suez Canal - and keep crossing it with thousands of tons of supplies a day. In the era of smart weapons, where one bomb kills one bridge, the canal is an insurmountable barrier - especially with the Israeli army waiting on the opposite bank.

Geez . . . couldn't they just part the Red Sea and split???

29 posted on 09/30/2002 9:50:34 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: kattracks
Well, this is just dandy, but it isn't their armies we have to fear anyway. It wasn't an Arab army that flew the planes on 9/11. Unless we do something about the enemy in our midst, we will continue to suffer terrorist attacks. I can see it now. All of our troops are stationed overseas while we suffer major terrorist attacks at home. It's insane.
30 posted on 09/30/2002 9:58:55 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: RaceBannon
The US Military [Israelis excluded] have tremendous force multipliers in its arsenal...a major one being presicion guided munitions and even to a lesser extent dumb bombs drops by computer...a half million man army dispersed along a border the size of New Jersey would make for a target rich environment.

As for Israel...terrain is a really big force multiplier for them...there are only a few approaches for legitimate forces to come through...Arab men with rifles can be easily shot by better trained Israeli men with rifles...so the only thing that will help Arabs is mech, that is where the Avenue of Approach comes into play....if I remember correctly....one company of Israelis held off Syrains Division[s] because they controlled key territory.

500,000 or 5,000,000 an Arab army in its current form and doctrine is still minced meat to any Israeli meatgrinder.

IMHO

31 posted on 09/30/2002 10:01:35 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
It is good that the Arabs do not have a cluster bomb delivery system, it is just the thought of all thoose Jonny Jihads lined up with spears, some are going to get through.
32 posted on 09/30/2002 1:15:46 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Geeze Race, just finished watching reruns of Ken Burns' Civil War, sounds like Pickett's Charge. Your scenario requires that we remain stationary or in a defined location. The type of attack that you describe would be effective on a CVN Task Force relying on defense in depth. Air Cav with suffcient choppers would be hard to mass against.
33 posted on 09/30/2002 1:26:09 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: RaceBannon
No, It is still conjecture. If they got any people to the ground, all they have to do is hand out rifles. One man, 10 rounds, go into battle. It would still be a loss on their side, but no modern country ever faced 500,000 soldiers each with a rifle on the ground at their borders when their borders are the size of New Jersey. Many would die.

DPICM means never having to say you're sorry.

34 posted on 09/30/2002 1:28:34 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Robe
That's why GOD and Dupont created Napalm

You mean the got it wrong back in the sixties? I thought it was DOW Chemical Napalm that the leftists were protesting.

You don't think there's a connection between the sixties protests against DOW Chemical and the breast implant suits twenty years later against DOW-Corning do you?

35 posted on 09/30/2002 1:34:21 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
LOL! It is not ME that would believe in a Pickett's Charge, I hope that isnt what it sounds like, I just think they might. Although, the infiltratin of them, in the surrounding countryside and otherwise, I do not think they will voluntarily line up to be shot, but that does not mean that thousands wont be with a rifle on the street corner where the organized masses of troops arent.

It is the 'organized' chaos theory I guess, many of them, armed, within and without, spread out like a measles, taking out center and edge defenses, instead of facing the front line in battle.

Let's all remember, there were 750,000 rifles captured when Israel attacked Beruit in 83 to push the PLO to the sea. That was almost 20 years ago, and with knowlege of the KARIN-A and Arafat, how many rifles are there in country there now, awaiting the command?

I dont think my idea is a flawless one for them to accomplish, jusst a nasty one, hard fought, winnable, but bloody none the less.

36 posted on 09/30/2002 3:10:41 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: kattracks
Dead on
37 posted on 09/30/2002 3:13:51 PM PDT by philetus
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To: chukcha
It is very foolish to underestimate the enemy.

That is all well and good. Assuming you have an enemy worthy of estimation. If you seriously believe that the Arab populations would fight for their King/Prince/Father of the people, I've got a nice tract of marshland to sell you. Suitable for an Arab air base.

38 posted on 09/30/2002 3:24:33 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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