Some Smith supporters not going with Sununu after primary loss

Associated Press / SFGate

[hchutch]

I stand corrected.

[rightwing2]

I have never bought double standards before, and I will not begin to do so now. You ask for one - defending a backstabber, then alleging a backstabbing by another one. I do not buy that, and I will NOT vote for Warner barring the apology I and every other Republican who voted for Ollie North have EVERY right to demand. Others might let it slide - NOT ME.,

Wow with that last statement, I thought you were starting to sound like me. Well, I have to say that I find your attacks against Senator Warner for allegedly being a backstabbing moderate very much at odds with your Commie-lib smear campaign against principled pro-life Christian conservative champion Senator Smith in defense of an actual backstabbling moderate, John Sununu. I am not sure how you can possibly reconcile two such completely differing viewpoints. I don’t think Warner’s a backstabber at all.

Sure, I disagreed with Warner’s failure to endorse conservative champion Ollie North, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to support him and vote for him eight years later! Sheesh! Let bygones be bygones. Talk about lack of forgiveness. Even I have stated that I would rather have RINO moderate backstabber Sununu win for the sole reason of ensuring GOP control of the Senate and passage of the President's agenda which has been stymied until now by Dashill and the RATS. You on the other hand are still pledging to vote against Virginia's senior Senator because of the positions he took EIGHT YEARS AGO!

Let me say however, that I can both understand and respect your principled position on Warner and North even though I disagree with it and even though you never gave me even one ounce of respect for my principled opposition to moderate backstabber John Sununu. I guess that is the difference between people who are consistantly conservatives and those who are conservative on some candidates and some issues, but inexplicably not on others. I’m not sure how else to explain your differing stands in any rational way.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Grow up.

[Mudboy Slim]

"...a principled conservative..."

After debating a number of topics with both y'all, I am confident that both of you are accurately described as "PrincipledConservatives", so why do you allow the vitriol to grow to this level?! SHEEEESH...rw2, you ain't really a RINOjust because you vote fer Warner this time...heck, I've voted fer the man 3 times now, but no more fer me, thankyouverymuch!! And Coop, you may or may not be voting for Warner this November, but I think we'd all agree that we'd vote fer Warner if he was in a closely-contested race against Chuck Robb...right?!

Kum-Buy-yahhh...Kum-Buy-yahhh...Kum-Buy-yahhh.....

Sing it with me, guys!!

LOL...MUD

[EternalVigilance]

This is a repost of what I said on the other thread concerning this subject:

You pinged me here, but you may not like what I'm going to say.

Any attempt to promote write-in votes for Bob Smith is stupid--and is counterproductive to the goal of restoring and defending our free republic.

Bob and his staff should get on the phone and make it very clear to his grassroots supporters that the future of our country is far more important than the political career of Bob Smith.

He should write a 500 word piece for distribution to every press outlet in NH that makes a cogent, passionate and effective case for why it would be foolish in the extreme, at this point in our history, to elect a socialist like Shaheen to the Senate--effectively giving Hillary Clinton a sure vote on every matter before the body.

He should also make it crystal clear to the NH electorate that Shaheen, in addition to being totally out of step with the average Granite-Stater, is totally and completely incompetent. Very credible proof of that from her tenure as Governor is abundant.

There are two groups of supposed 'Republicans' that show up in these reports (doesn't seem like very many here are catching it)...a tiny group of hardcore conservatives who are ready to take their ball and go home, and some very liberal folks who are endorsing Shaheen, and would have no matter the outcome on September 10th. There is a distinction there that is important, if a person wants to see the political landscape clearly.

But there is a third group that is largely unmentioned--those who are going to support John Sununu--because that is the best thing for New Hampshire and for our nation.

I write all of this as an old friend of Bob Smith's. Bob lost. It's time for him to get back where he belongs--in the forefront leading the charge for the things that are best for our nation...and in this case, that is in the effort to defeat Jeanne Shaheen.

I also write this as someone who is acquainted with John Sununu. He is not the devil that some have tried to paint him as. He is a genuinely nice guy who will do a great job in the Republican U.S. Senate majority that it is our duty to create on November 5th.

EV

[hchutch]

How is what you are advocating in the New Hampshire Senate Race any different than what John Warner did to Ollie North? How is it? I fail to see the difference - all I see are people who saw their guy lose, and who decided to stab the other guy in the back, and hand the election to a Clinton-supporting Dem.

A primary fight or a convention fight for the nomination is one thing - I had no problem with John Warner supporting Jim Miller's bid for the nomination in the 1994 Senate race. The Republican party is NOT monolithic - people will disagree on things to an extent.

My problem comes when people proceed to stab the nominee in the back AFTER they lose the nomination fight (whether it is a primary or a convention). To me, that is unforgivable - it gives aid and comfort to the Left at a minimum, and it gave them a Senate seat in 1994. I fail to see how what the Smith supporters (who are NOT being condemned by Smith for this act of treachery) are acting any differnetly than John Warner did in 1994. I cannot give a conservative a pass for backstabbing a mdoerate. I have condemned moderates for backstabbing conservatives, and it would be hypocritical and Clintonian for me to remain silent when a so-called "moderate" like Sununu is backstabbed by conservatives.

You ask me to create and perpetrate a double standard - one for conservatives, the other for moderates. I cannot do so in good conscience. Nor can I, in good conscience, remain silent as what was perpetrated on Ollie North by John Warner is then perpetrated on another Republican (in this case, Sununu) by conservative supporters of Bob Smith.

That's why I am condemning the write-in effort. That is also why, barring an apology from Warner (preferably backed by actions of some sort), I cannot vote for Warner.

[rightwing2]

SHEEEESH...rw2, you ain't really a RINOjust because you vote fer Warner this time...heck, I've voted fer the man 3 times now, but no more fer me, thankyouverymuch!! And Coop, you may or may not be voting for Warner this November, but I think we'd all agree that we'd vote fer Warner if he was in a closely-contested race against Chuck Robb...right?!

Thank you very much for not accusing me of being a RINO. It is absolutely imperative that all Republicans need to pull together to help the GOP take the Senate from RAT control in next month's elections, which is just part of why I am working as a precinct captain and county committee member to help Republicans win at all levels. However, that doesn't mean that I am going to sit down and take it when I see a bunch of mean-spirited RINOs dancing and spitting on the political grave they prepared for the greatest pro-life Christian conservative champion America has seen in a dozen years! Their RINO victory over incumbent GOP Senator Smith was apparently not enough to satisfy them. They just have to keep pissing on his grave, pinging me to these stupid RINO rant threads and getting me all riled up in the process. I sincerely hope they give it a break because I would be more than happy to do the same.

[deport]

Hey earn your "tax payer funded salary" the Gov't is paying you and you won't see all these threads nor be posting to them. Must be nice to have the "tax payers" support you while you play on the net during your working hours....

Geez, everybody here does it.....

[rightwing2]

You ask me to create and perpetrate a double standard - one for conservatives, the other for moderates. I cannot do so in good conscience. Nor can I, in good conscience, remain silent as what was perpetrated on Ollie North by John Warner is then perpetrated on another Republican (in this case, Sununu) by conservative supporters of Bob Smith. That's why I am condemning the write-in effort. That is also why, barring an apology from Warner (preferably backed by actions of some sort), I cannot vote for Warner.

I am absolutely not in any way asking you to create and perpetuate a double standard. I have asked you to support all of our incumbent Republican Senators even staunch conservative ones like Senator Bob Smith. You refused to do so and have merrily joined the RINO crowd in dancing on Smith’s grave even as I have expressed my very grudging conclusion that I would back even someone as disgraceful and embarrassing to the US Senate as John Sununu for the sole purpose of ensuring Republican control of the US Senate. However, I completely refuse to condemn the write in vote efforts of Smith supporters given the fact that they are doing this only in response to a very demented backstabbing effort by Sununu to take out pro-life conservative champion Bob Smith. Meanwhile, you are condemning the write in effort for Smith, while leading the charge here on FR for a new write in effort for North. How is that consistant?

[rightwing2]

Hey earn your "tax payer funded salary" the Gov't is paying you and you won't see all these threads nor be posting to them. Must be nice to have the "tax payers" support you while you play on the net during your working hours.... Geez, everybody here does it.....

LOL! You might as well come up with a new one because this one is getting really old and crusty.

[deport]

May be getting old to you but surely doesn't make it wrong. Aren't you taking "tax payer" dollars while posting on the net? Sounds like something a cheat and thief would do... not something an arch conservative Christian would do.

Geez, everybody here does it....
Your tax dollars at work

[hchutch]

The major difference is John Warner's PROVEN backstabbing.

He was not merely content to sit out the 1994 election after the primary candidate he supported (IIRC, it was actually a convention) - he promoted a third-party candidate that siphoned off enough votes to re-elect Robb.

All Sununu did was to challenge Bob Smith in a primary - something that any Republican has a right to do, and in Smith's case, his 1999 bolt from the GOP and flirtation with a third-party presidential run could be seen as backstabbing as well.

I cannot accept the notion that a primary challenge - particularly given Senator Smith's brief bolt from the GOP (his return to take a committee chairmanship was somewhat disingenuous) is backstabbing. And his refusal to condemn this write-in effort or those supporters of his who bolted to Shaheen is, in my mind, a mark against him.

If you are involved in a primary, particularly one that gets heated (as this one in New Hampshire did), I believe there is an obligation on the part of the candidate to deliver as many of his supports as possible to the winner of said primary - and for the supporters to get on board with the nominee.

John Warner did not fulfill that obligation, and therefore, I cannot rewrad him with my vote, and I can best express my displeasure towards Wanrer by voting FOR the man he stabbed in the back.

Right now, Bob Smith at the VERY LEAST, owes Sununu a statement expressing his disappointment that some of his supporters are choosing to support a pro-choice Democrat (Shaheen) as opposed to Sununu, who is a reliable pro-life vote. If Bob Smith does NOTHING about this effort to divide support for a Republican nominee, then I would have VERY serious difficulty supporting him for any future Republican nomination to political office.

[Twodees]

I see you're still supporting liberal republicans for office. You'll be standing with Mistah Jawn again too, I'll bet. BTW, where's the catastrophic destruction you promised if Marxist Earley was allowed to twist in the wind? It hasn't happened, has it?

Conservatives tried to explain to you and the rest of the liberals that you don't hand a liberal republican the executive office when the legislature is mostly republican too. That's a prescription for disaster. We elected more republicans to the legislature and let Earley lose. The result is what we have now, a liberal governor who is in the passenger seat for his whole term instead of a liberal governor who can use party loyalty to get more marxist legislation passed. You boys tried to convince Virginia conservatives otherwise. We laughed in your faces and let your boy die on the vine. I'm really glad we did, too.

[Coop]

BTW, where's the catastrophic destruction you promised if Marxist Earley was allowed to twist in the wind?

Yet another lie. Please share with us said prediction. Should be a snap for you to find in the archives.

You're a consistent punk, but still a punk (in an old fart sorta way).

[FreedominJesusChrist]

Sinkspur likes calling everyone he doesn't like fat A****.

He is probably one himself.

[sinkspur]

Sinkspur likes calling everyone he doesn't like fat A****.

Nope. I just call fat-asses, fat-ass. Have you seen Bob Smith?

He is probably one himself.

Nope. 6'1", 195 lbs., 34" waist. Smith's got me beat by 10" around the middle.

[Howlin]

Still trying to win friends and influence people, I see.

[FreedominJesusChrist]

I do not give two hoots if a candidate has a fat A** or not.

I care about a candidate's morals, principles, and beliefs.

[FreedominJesusChrist]

"Nope. 6'1", 195 lbs., 34" waist. Smith's got me beat by 10" around the middle."

That is more like a 36" waist. Still, you are in good shape.