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L.A. County employees charged monthly smoking fee How Much More Abuse Will Smokers Take
SBSUN.com ^ | 29 September 2002 | MICHELLE RESTER

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:19:47 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: lsee
Some would probably say "big Pharm" is the big winner

The war on the smokers is all about Big Bucks. The Tobacco Settlement is being paid 100% by the smokers who pay taxes on cigarettes. Not the government and not Big Tobacco. The smokers pay this.

The Tobacco Settlement being paid into the states was supposed to pay for any sick uninsured smoker (welfare) should there be any, and for education about smoking. However, as I am sure you have heard, the money is so huge, that the state governments jumped on it to “balance the budgets!” The weight of the state is being carried on the backs of 1 out of 4 people who choose to smoke a legal commodity.

Then, you have the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, working with the American Medical Association. They have a HUGE war on smokers. Currently, 44 states are in the pocket of the RWJ Foundation. The higher the taxes, the more control, bans and restrictions put upon the smoker, the bigger the grant money the state will receive.

Here is a few cartoons that explain it perfectly:


21 posted on 10/01/2002 7:17:01 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I am so tired of the verbal abuse at the hospitals here. If they know you smoke, they sigh and roll their eyes

The don't ask that when you're just visiting. Sounds like you aren't as healthy as you'd like us to believe....

they sigh and roll their eyes

Are we overly sensitive? Sighs and rolling eyes is "verbal abuse" now?

22 posted on 10/01/2002 7:20:04 AM PDT by lewislynn
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To: lsee
Some would probably say "big Pharm" is the big winner.

Oh yes! Big Pharm WANTS to be the big winner! They WANT people to quit smoking so they can sell them their high priced "quit smoking aides."

(The reason the Government is working to get us all to quit smoking, is so Big Pharm can get our money for quit smoking aides!)


23 posted on 10/01/2002 7:20:53 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: lewislynn
The don't ask that when you're just visiting. Sounds like you aren't as healthy as you'd like us to believe....

Not that I have to explain anything to YOU, but my husband is going for knee surgery. We have to make trips to the hospital for pre-surgery testing. Anything wrong with that?

24 posted on 10/01/2002 7:23:00 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
"It's called a smoker's fee,' said Bill Lynes, the county's head of compensation. "It goes into a fund that helps defray the cost of health insurance for the larger group.'

There is that bulls... again, where and when is it going to stop.

25 posted on 10/01/2002 7:57:03 AM PDT by Great Dane
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An alternative would be to deprive smokers of all health insurance coverage.:~)

Yeah, then all the EXTRA money we pay, can go to everybody else, which it already does. :-}

26 posted on 10/01/2002 8:01:05 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: lewislynn
Sighs and rolling eyes is "verbal abuse" now?

If the shoe fits.

27 posted on 10/01/2002 8:06:14 AM PDT by Great Dane
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"We really don't hear complaints about this, which is kind of interesting,' Lynes said."

Probably because they're a bunch of stupid sheep!

28 posted on 10/01/2002 8:34:36 AM PDT by cmak9
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There is that bulls... again, where and when is it going to stop.

Isn't this outrageous??!! Why don't they have a FAT FEE. Seems about right to ME!

29 posted on 10/01/2002 8:44:23 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: cmak9
Probably because they're a bunch of stupid sheep!

Or......they never thought that some news person would have this published for all the world to see. LOL!

Now we ALL know what sheep they are. /sarcasm off


30 posted on 10/01/2002 8:46:34 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
It looks like the ACLU is on the side of the smokers on this issue. You may want o give them a call or send a donation asking them to help.
31 posted on 10/01/2002 8:59:19 AM PDT by Station 51
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Democrats are considering a $100 a pack tax in CA to erase the debt I hear!
32 posted on 10/01/2002 9:00:16 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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Democrats are considering a $100 a pack tax in CA to erase the debt I hear!

That's outrageous! We all know the DemocRATS are stupid, but this is even above THEIR doings!

They are really killing off the goose that lays the golden eggs. People aren't going to stop smoking, but people WILL go elsewhere to buy cigarettes from places that are within reason! SHOP CHEAP IT'S YOUR CIVIC DUTY.

More smokers are learning every day that they do NOT have to pay into the state coffers in order to enjoy their relaxation. With the Internet, knowledge is power, and I really wish all the smokers in the U.S. would come online and find the better alternative.

Surely, the DemocRATS realize that no one would buy cigarettes paying that outrageous tax. Why don't they up the tax on BOOZE? Alcohol is killing people off like flies, I hear.


and

Smokers United

33 posted on 10/01/2002 9:17:48 AM PDT by SheLion
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She fell for it.
34 posted on 10/01/2002 10:32:49 AM PDT by metesky
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She fell for it.

I didn't fall for anything. But even "I" know the DemocRATS aren't THAT dumb. heh!

You just never know who is coming in here, and they might believe what they post, so I am here to dubunk. How's that?

35 posted on 10/01/2002 10:44:33 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Take that tone with me again, young lady, and I'll put you over my knee and...

Never mind.
;O)

36 posted on 10/01/2002 10:46:54 AM PDT by metesky
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To: SheLion
Anything wrong with that?

I sure do like your screen name! Hope hubby's surgery goes/went okay.

37 posted on 10/01/2002 10:54:01 AM PDT by lsee
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To: metesky; SheLion
Take that tone with me again, young lady, and I'll put you over my knee and...

NAAAAAAHHH - she's probably enjoy it too much!!!!! (j/k she)

38 posted on 10/01/2002 10:57:08 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: metesky
Heh! Your not big enough.......

:)

39 posted on 10/01/2002 11:01:46 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: lsee
You know what? I have been SheLion in here since 1994. I was trying to get a name, and you know how they are all taken. Well, I was born in August, which is Leo. But Leo is a male lion. I thought: Well, I am surely not a male. So, the idea popped into my head "SheLion!" So, that is how I got my name.

I have to sweep the bones out of my cave every morning. LOL!

Hubby goes on the 10th of this month for knee surgery. OUCH! I, too, hope it goes well. Can't be much worse then it is now. Thank you so much!!!

40 posted on 10/01/2002 11:04:40 AM PDT by SheLion
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