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Another DC-area sniper-style shooting
Wife (FReeper nina0113) | October 4, 2002 | Steve0113

Posted on 10/04/2002 12:02:50 PM PDT by Steve1789

Another broad-daylight shooting just occurred, this time in Fredericksburg, VA, just off I-95. It's not even on the news yet.

About an hour's drive south of where the Montgomery County shootings happened, a woman was shot in the parking lot of a Michaels fabric store. My wife was in the store at the time. The victim had left the store and carried her purchases to her minivan. She unlocked the minivan and was loading her stuff into it when she was shot. No sign of the shooter.

No one else was injured.

The woman was taken away in an ambulance, condition unknown. Her license plate (which I'm not going to post) indicated that she had several children.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
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1 posted on 10/04/2002 12:02:50 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Steve0113
Isn't that at least the second fabric store shooting?
2 posted on 10/04/2002 12:04:10 PM PDT by thesharkboy
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To: thesharkboy
both Michaels stores
3 posted on 10/04/2002 12:04:58 PM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: Steve0113
Her license plate ... indicated that she had several children.

Not being familiar with the DMV in that area, what is on the plate that indicates this?

4 posted on 10/04/2002 12:06:19 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: Coop
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5 posted on 10/04/2002 12:06:32 PM PDT by patton
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To: Steve0113; aristeides; Joe Hadenuf; Travis McGee; SLB; Squantos; abner
Thanks for the scoop! I can almost understand why the news about this is being handled so delicately...so as to not encourage copycat criminals.

If she's alive I think it is not the same shooter. Just my immediate gut reaction. Thanks again for the scoop.
6 posted on 10/04/2002 12:07:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: SGCOS
what is on the plate that indicates this?

Sorry, I should have specified that it was a vanity plate.

7 posted on 10/04/2002 12:07:45 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Steve0113
Does anybody know where James Carville is? I think he finally snapped.
8 posted on 10/04/2002 12:07:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: SGCOS
Probably things like bumper stickers, such as "My kid is an honor student at [name of school]", etc.
9 posted on 10/04/2002 12:08:02 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the ping Fred.
10 posted on 10/04/2002 12:08:14 PM PDT by abner
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To: Steve0113
Glad you wife is un hurt! Thanks
11 posted on 10/04/2002 12:09:18 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Steve0113
Dianne Feinstein doing back flips right? = yes
12 posted on 10/04/2002 12:09:43 PM PDT by ezoeni
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Last seen in NJ
13 posted on 10/04/2002 12:10:03 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Steve0113
Why is the news today calling these sniper style shootings?

The initial reports led me to believe they were drive bys with a handgun.

Has the type of weapon used been released?

Were all the victims shot with the same weapon?

14 posted on 10/04/2002 12:10:30 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Steve0113; Teacup
prayers being said for this lady now.....

this is very close to where I live....yikes.

Semper Fi!
15 posted on 10/04/2002 12:11:07 PM PDT by MudPuppy
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To: redlipstick
Ping
16 posted on 10/04/2002 12:11:25 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Steve0113
This stuff is really getting strange
17 posted on 10/04/2002 12:11:28 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Ford Fairlane
They believe it is a .223 calibre rifle.
18 posted on 10/04/2002 12:11:38 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: Ford Fairlane
All the first ones shot with .223 ammo.
19 posted on 10/04/2002 12:11:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Ford Fairlane
Why is the news today calling these sniper style shootings?

Can you fire a high-power .223 from a handgun?

21 posted on 10/04/2002 12:12:21 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Steve0113
Thank you so much for the first hand report. So glad your wife is okay. If she is up to it, perhaps she would consider calling Fox news to give them her report.
22 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:20 PM PDT by Route66
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks Fred.......
23 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:23 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: MudPuppy
this is very close to where I live....yikes.

It was the store in Spotsylvania Mall.

24 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:24 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Steve0113
the parking lot of a Michaels fabric store

I'm beginning to think that security cameras on top of privately owned stores might not be a bad idea.

25 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:30 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred put me on that ping list please...
26 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:36 PM PDT by Dog
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To: dd5339
Another one! Yikes! I've emailed family in DC!
27 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:41 PM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: Steve0113
Prayers for the woman that she survives.
28 posted on 10/04/2002 12:13:54 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: RS_Rider
Isn't that an arts and crafts store??
29 posted on 10/04/2002 12:14:08 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Steve0113
"Can you fire a high-power .223 from a handgun?"


You can I believe Thompson Contenders are available in .223.
30 posted on 10/04/2002 12:14:28 PM PDT by b fair
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Isn't that an arts and crafts store??

Yes

32 posted on 10/04/2002 12:14:33 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Route66
If she is up to it...

I think all she's up for is a stiff drink at the moment.

33 posted on 10/04/2002 12:15:07 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: The Federal Farmer
No, it's not impossible to do this with a handgun. Any scoped .223 handgun is capable of doing this.
34 posted on 10/04/2002 12:15:10 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: MudPuppy
How far in miles is this to the shootings from yesterday?
35 posted on 10/04/2002 12:15:14 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Steve0113
Your wife was in the store? Wow! Hold your wife a lot tonight.
36 posted on 10/04/2002 12:15:25 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: 1Old Pro
Chances are, they're already there. . .
37 posted on 10/04/2002 12:16:12 PM PDT by Salgak
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To: Steve0113
"I think all she's up for is a stiff drink at the moment."

Completely understand that...I'm sure it would apply to me in that situation.
38 posted on 10/04/2002 12:17:35 PM PDT by Route66
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To: fissionproducts
The reports talked about a .223. I don't know if that's a spent .224 bullet or a .223 cartridge case they found. We still don't know if it's from a rifle or handgun.
39 posted on 10/04/2002 12:17:37 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Teacup
Alert!!!!
40 posted on 10/04/2002 12:17:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Steve0113
Yes - if I was going to do this I would use a TC contender

A rifle is too conspicuous in an urban setting

The various .223 caliber cartriges are accurate to 400 yd from a contender.

41 posted on 10/04/2002 12:18:11 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Steve0113
Is the place crawling with LEO's

Did anyone hear the shot??

42 posted on 10/04/2002 12:18:12 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Steve0113
Why isn't this on the news yet? Are they trying to prevent panic? I think the public has a right to know this.If I lived in the area I would want to know.All of you that do live around there please take care.
43 posted on 10/04/2002 12:18:23 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: SGCOS
Often people here have vanity plates that say, e.g., 5SMITHS, KIDZVN, 4BOYZ, etc.
44 posted on 10/04/2002 12:18:38 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Steve0113
Thanks for the heads up. Hope your wife isn't too shaken.
45 posted on 10/04/2002 12:19:06 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: MudPuppy
Close to where I live, too.

Prayers.
46 posted on 10/04/2002 12:19:35 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: William McKinley
.223 calibre

first I heard of that

I would guess a radical muslim is running around trying to disrupt things

47 posted on 10/04/2002 12:19:37 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: The Federal Farmer
They're very accurate shootings, all victims killed with one shot from quite a distance. Next to impossible to do that with a handgun.

The Thompson Contender single-shot handgun can be barrelled in .223. Combined with a decent scope, it is accurate to several hundred yards. I saw a TV show or movie several years ago where a killer used the Thompson Contender at reasonably long ranges. I can't remember the name of the show or movie.

48 posted on 10/04/2002 12:19:51 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Joe Hadenuf
How far in miles is this to the shootings from yesterday?

It's about 70 miles, almost all of it on open highway.

49 posted on 10/04/2002 12:19:52 PM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Steve0113
How many miles is this from yesterdays shootings?
50 posted on 10/04/2002 12:19:56 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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