Skip to comments.LET'S FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO CHIEF NEGOTIATOR!!
Posted on 10/05/2002 9:15:25 AM PDT by COB1
Our friend, Herb Meadows, AKA CHIEF Negotiator, died in a house fire on October 4, of last year.
IT'S BEEN A YEAR, AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF HIS DEATH!
THIS IS RIDICULOUS!
Folks, I know the wheels of justice turn slowly, but sometimes they get stuck!
Let's get those wheels turning again!
I'm asking for an all out freep by e-mail and telephone to find out why he died and how he died!
Let's don't let the bureaucrats push this under the rug!
The name is Herbert Paul Meadows.
The date of birth is 08-28-48.
The case number is 011612-F.
Below is a list of e-mail addresses and telephone numbers of people we need to contact:
HOUSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT ARSON DIVISION - 713-865-9000.
Chief Kent of Arson Investigations - 713-551-2239.
Leo Gonzales - Detective - Arson Div. - 713-865-9055.
Tyrone Freeman - Detective - Arson Div. - 713-551-2214.
Houston Police Department - 713-222-3131
Complaints Department - HPD - 713-308-0040
Citizen's Review Committee - HPD - 713-308-8939
Harris County Sheriff's Department - Detectives - 713-967-5810
District Attorney for Harris County - Charles Rosenthal - email@example.com
Houston Chronicle - firstname.lastname@example.org
Houston Press - email@example.com
Texas Triangle - TXTRIANGLE@AOL.COM
Larry and Bridget
Mayor Lee Brown - firstname.lastname@example.org
Houston City Council:
Anise Parker - email@example.com
Gordon Quan - firstname.lastname@example.org
Shelly Sekula-Gibbs - email@example.com
Michael Berry - firstname.lastname@example.org
Carroll G. Robinson - email@example.com
Bruce Tatro - firstname.lastname@example.org
Carol Mims Galloway - email@example.com
Mark Goldberg - firstname.lastname@example.org
Ada Edwards - email@example.com
Addie Wiseman - firstname.lastname@example.org
Mark Ellis - email@example.com
Bert Keller - firstname.lastname@example.org
Gabriel Vasquez - email@example.com
Carol Alvarado - firstname.lastname@example.org
LET'S ROLL !
(remind self .... more COB1 prayers)
The subject of his rants and appypappys we're very good.
reeling(me)......will come back and get busy...
There's a mistaken impression among bureaucrats that all we can do is stand on the corner, wave flags and shout.
We do a darn good job of that, but with this many patriots, we can do a LOT more than that!
"No one thinks about Herb now.
He is old news."
How incredibly wrong you are, indicated by just that last thread exceeding 900 replies.
So many of who knew CHIEF and interacted with him or just saw his passion for the tax issues and All Things Military will ALWAYS remember him.
The minute the hands on the clock swung to 0001 on 4 October 2002, my thoughts focused on remembering him, and through my waking hours.
It was my privilege to interact in 1998 and beyond on the Original Freeper Island Series with Billie and Scuttlebutt and Daus and A1stus and harrowup and others - an island in the Marquesas that knew no war, according to Invictus.
Invictus knew, serving in WWII under MacArthur and seeing action all over the Pacific.
We sailed there with Invictus in September 1998 to establish a getaway from Clinton and the Whitewater affairs, where the First Rule was Utmost Civility.
Invictus went from the war to becoming a Military Chaplain, serving two tours in the Korean Conflict, and retired in that capacity.
He escorted 'Home' many of our brothers, and even in retirement, was asked personally by President Reagan to escort 13 bodies found in North Korea and returned long after the war to their final resting places.
CHIEF was a great contributor to our little paradise, once stating he had 'altered' the grass skirts Billie and I had for the Friday night luau lessons - mowed 'em down to 4" long!
He also was our navigator, through a misunderstanding of the words negotiator and navigator, in the now ongoing Sea Sagas with ofMagog.
carenot, he is unforgettable to many, unfailingly kind to newcomers and oldsters alike.
If the power of Free Republic is what we think it is, surely THE MEDIA can be prompted to 'do the walking' for us!
I think success lies most strongly in appealing to them to assist us with this!
That kind of challenge is right up their alley!
Before I wade in knocking heads, as I intend to do, I need to be better informed.
What is the status of the investigation? It is considered a closed case?
What specifically are we asking for? That the case be reopened, or that the investigators devote more manpower to a case that is open, but inactive?
Are there obvious point men who are standing in the way of the case moving forward? Or is it simply a matter of the police running out of leads, throwing up their hands and declaring themselves stumped?
- of who and what he was
- of known activities of that last evening/night
- some of the 'oddities' of the fire, and the location of where his body was found, not by the sink where he might have sought water to soothe burns, but in a fetal position on the floor beside the commode
- unique things found in the autopsy - marks - possible evidence of 'torture' ??
- statement that to the best you can determine, it HAS been ruled, supposedly, Closed so far as the INSURANCE company is concerned
- supposedly NOT Closed so far as the Arson Investigators are concerned
The writer who wrote the original snippet about the fire in the Chronicle was S.K. BARDWELL. I just checked the Chron site, and Bardwell is still writing crime articles for the paper.
I recommend you contact this person and discuss what data you have. Maybe the Chronicle asking questions would cause some movement on the case.
What is the status of the home at this time?
According to the Chief of Arson Investigators, this case is still open and under investigation.
It's inconceivable to me that if it's a simple case of accidental death that the case would still be under investigation.
It appears that there are some power plays involved that we know nothing about.
I know there is intense rivalry between the HPD and the Arson Division, but I don't know if this is a contributing factor.
The HPD does not get involved in cases handled by the Arson Division unless they are specifically asked to do so.
Since both departments are in competition for the same funds, that automatically makes them rivals.
In other words, a piss poor way to run any investigation!
If it means putting more manpower toward solving it, then do it!
If there are some power people who don't want this thing solved, then I want to know who they are!
If this involves police corruption or incompetence, then let's air it out!
We are being sandbagged, and it's time for that to stop!
I don't worry about that spotlight as much as I do that little red laser dot on my chest!
Cob, don't rely on just the City of Houston. Have you written to these folks, registered letter, return receipt requested? Suspected arson by the homeowner's carrier's claims adjuster is referred here for investigation. An arson report is a public document. It's worth a letter. Refer to the arson case file #, date of incident, address, insurance company, named insureds: Mrs. Chief, Alwayswatching - IIRC.
Explain that as a close, long-time friend of Herb Meadows, you are requesting a status report; that you have been unable to obtain any information from Houston Arson Division since the first report was issued on ________. Include a copy of it along with your letter. Ask them to inform you of any fee required to obtain status report. Make a couple of copies of your letter in case you have to write the state's atty general down the road. You'll be able to demonstrate to that office of the effort you've made, prior to writing him.
You might preface all of the above by writing to the arson investigators, and that chief with registered letters, return receipt requested. It leaves a deeper impression than just a phone call or email, imo. Plus you'll have all that 'pending' crap in writing, when they respond. That might raise their eyebrows a notch or two. If they *don't* respond, you can demonstrate that to the atty gen down the road, too, with copies of *those* letters.
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