Portland tries to make sense of terror arrests Muslim leaders resent being labeled

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 6, 2020 | Janine DeFao

[sarcasm]

Portland, Ore. -- As a worldwide manhunt intensified Saturday for two fugitives believed to be members of an al Qaeda cell here, residents expressed grave concerns that there may be terrorists in their midst.

The fugitives are among six people indicted in what federal authorities said was a conspiracy to provide aid to the Taliban and Osama bin Laden's terrorists. Three of those indicted were arrested in Portland on Friday. A fourth was arrested in Michigan.

[Maceman]

These Muslims are REALLY starting to piss me off.

[Freee-dame]

People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States.' "

No one is forced to stay in the USA.

[GirlShortstop]

"There are people who are first generation (immigrants) who no doubt have sympathy with those who have attacked us," Mandaville said. "But that doesn't make them terrorists."
makes them subhuman

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"The reaction is, 'Why are they doing this to this community?' There's fear and concern," said the mosque leader, who declined to give his name. "Muslims are looked upon differently. People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States.' "

Now they're getting it! Move along... don't let the door hit ya in the arse!

[Drango]

People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States.'

Love it or leave it.

[grammymoon]

bye bye, get lost, go back where you came from, see ya, get out of here, & you'all don't come back now.

I resent murderers in our midst.

[listenhillary]

I've heard that less than 2% of immigrants ever leave.

That's too bad, maybe we can bump the average?

[GirlShortstop]

bye bye, get lost, go back where you came from, see ya, get out of here, & you'all don't come back now.

[AngrySpud]

"This isn't true. It doesn't make any sense."

Yer first clue was when he failed to report for duty after basic training ... or didn't you think that was unusual?

[joesnuffy]

Muslims sniping from behind the rhetoric of the civil rights movement...

[JCG]

"There are people who are first generation (immigrants) who no doubt have sympathy with those who have attacked us," Mandaville said. "But that doesn't make them terrorists."

Here's a happy thought from Middle East expert Daniel Pipes:

Islamists constitute a small but significant minority of Muslims, perhaps 10 to 15 per cent of the population. Many of them are peaceable in apearance, but they all must be considered potential killers.

How does 400,000 to 800,000 -- in our country -- potential killers sound?

Pipes article here...

Muslim population in America

Meet an Islamist -- peaceable in appearance, killer

America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
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[piasa]

fyi

[MissAmericanPie]

"Muslims are looked upon differently. People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States."

Yeah, it would really break my heart if they all left, but the truth is, you couldn't blast these ticks out of here with a hydrogen bomb.

[piasa]

New detail:

The FBI is reportedly investigating another member of the Islamic Center suspected of having ties with Wadih el Hage, a top aide to bin Laden. The suspect reportedly was in a gemstone business with el Hage and had other financial dealings with him, according to court records cited by the Oregonian newspaper.

[aristeides]

"One person in Seattle and four to nine in Portland is hardly an international terrorist cell in operation," said Jon Mandaville, head of the Middle East Studies Center at Portland State University.

What about that member of the Naval Reserve that was arrested in Tacoma a few months ago? Didn't he and his buddy Ujaama turn out to have connections to radical imam Abu Hamza al Masri in London?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

If a day ever comes that Christians act like Muslims, then I might take their whining complaints seriously. For example:

INDONESIA: Massacre of Christians shatters Maluku peace accord

At least 12 people have been killed by a Muslim mob which attacked a Christian village in the Moluccan islands in eastern Indonesia.

The violence then spread to the regional capital, Ambon city, where a bomb went off, and a centre for Christian and Muslim children and one of the city's main churches were set on fire.

It is the most serious outbreak of violence in the Moluccas since a peace deal was signed by Christian and Muslim leaders in February 2002. The deal was intended to put an end to three years of sectarian violence in which more than 6,000 people have died.

Homes set alight

The violence began early on Sunday in the village of Soya.
"They attacked the village by using home-made bombs and set fire to some of the houses," a local journalist said.
There are reports that some 30 homes and a church were set on fire.

Six people are reported to have been stabbed to death, and a further six are said to have died in the fires.

Christian sources say the Soya attack was carried out by a Muslim mob armed with machetes, knives and bombs.

Two of the attackers also died in the fighting.

Many of the villagers, particularly the women and children, have now fled the area.

Ambon police chief Brigadier-General Sunarko Danu Artanto confirmed the attack, but gave no further details.

Independence

The violence comes after the Christian separatist South Moluccas Republic (RMS) group raised flags in Ambon on Thursday, the 52nd anniversary of a failed independence bid.

Angry Muslim crowds took to the streets in response, and the leader of the extremist Islamic organisation, Laskar Jihad, called on all Muslims in the Moluccan islands to launch a renewed war against the Christian community.
The group's commander, Jafar Umar Thalib, told thousands attending a rally after Friday prayers that the peace agreement should be ignored.

BBC Jakarta correspondent Richard Galpin says the critical issue now is whether the authorities can prevent the violence from spreading - which would mean clamping down on the activities of Laskar Jihad, which so far the government has been afraid to do.

Muslims make up 85% of Indonesia's 210 million people, but in the Moluccas half the population is Christian. [For how long it remains half Christian, who can say?]

Source: BBC World Service

Posted on 2002-04-28

[piasa]

Yes; some members of the Seattle Cell went to the London mosque and met with the cleric. Ujaama did their web site I think.

[piasa]

Seattle man arrested...ties to al Masri

[billhilly]

Easy now. That was just a college professor, full of love for his country, talking. Sarcasm.

[piasa]

From CNN: While in London on one trip, Ujaama attended the Finsbury Mosque, where Hamza preaches, officials have said. Zacarias Moussaoui -- the only person facing a public U.S. trial in connection with the September 11 attacks -- and Richard Reid, who is accused of trying to blow up a flight with explosives in his shoes, also have attended the mosque.

Ujaama also traveled to Afghanistan in 1999 to study Islamic code, according to family friends.

Yeah, that's it, we are all just studying...

No one ever got into trouble by just studying, right?

[pointsal]

how about raising the bar.... or fence?

[blam]

""The reaction is, 'Why are they doing this to this community?' There's fear and concern," said the mosque leader, who declined to give his name. "Muslims are looked upon differently. People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States.' "

NOPE!!!

The Muslims may accomplish one good thing in this country and that is to illustrate the phonyness of the PC BS! They have a right to blow us up and kill us without being LABELED!! Screw'em!! Go home you stinking bastards!!

[doug from upland]

"Muslims are looked upon differently. People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States.' "

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Don't let the door hit your *ss on the way out.

[norton]

There is a lot of "Muslim go home" being expressed on this link.

Not a problem in itself, but the names and faces of many of these specific suspects are American...

Borders aren't the only thing we need to see addressed!

[Jack Black]

How are we supposed to deal with potential terrorists in our midst, or even sympathizers. I go to Washington Square mall and see these people in their hajibs or whatever.

[CT]

"One person in Seattle and four to nine in Portland is hardly an international terrorist cell in operation,"

I live only about 2-3 miles from these vermin. They congregate on the sidewalks. The mingle in stores. And in a tight maybe 10 square block area they have perrty much taken over. Additionally, they have "cells" all around town.

Afterall, this is Portland, Oregon. The same Portland filled with 60's radical leftists in the government, that now while a little grayer, still advance a "progressive" approach to government that is very similar to the Marxism we were warned about as kids in the 50's.

Taxes at levels even this country's federal governement did not impose. Creeping control over peoples property rights. A Gay agenda that resembles San Francisco. Meatless weekdays proclaimed by the idiot mayor. Leather pride celebrations. Yet no money or interest in protecting and defending the area from terrorists.

But that is simple -- the terrorists are running things!

[Eastbound]

The old good cop, bad cop routine. Radical islam = left hand, peaceful islam = right hand. Squeezing America to re-shape it like a piece of clay. Convert to their 'peaceful' ways or die. In this case, the potters (plotters) are attempting to re-shape a rock, not a handful of clay. Ambitious, but fatal.

(Note to the religion of peace: If your left hand offend thee, cut it off before you break both your hands. Rocks break scissors, you know. Khomeini had it wrong and so do you.)

[sarcasm]

The Muslims may accomplish one good thing in this country and that is to illustrate the phonyness of the PC BS!

It seems that your reeducation has failed.

[blam]

"It seems that your reeducation has failed."

Miserably!

[boris]

Mosque <===> Morgue

See? It's easy.

--Boris

[sarcasm]

Time for another trip to the camp?

[blam]

"Time for another trip to the camp?"

Nah, slow learner.

[B4Ranch]

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[Abar]

But that is simple -- the terrorists are running things!

You have that right. Those marxists will stop at nothing to destroy America.

[Abar]

"There are people who are first generation (immigrants) who no doubt have sympathy with those who have attacked us," Mandaville said. "But that doesn't make them terrorists."

Yes it does a$$hole, YES it does!

[cake_crumb]

"The reaction is, 'Why are they doing this to this community?' " [said an anomous mosque leader]

Who is THEY, I wonder? Certainly, the anonomous mosque leader IS NOT referring to the arrested terrorists.

""One person in Seattle and four to nine in Portland is hardly an international terrorist cell in operation," said Jon Mandaville..."

Just more "practical jokes" planned by our fun loving Muslim friends?

[breakem]

I wonder if the Portland chief of police is still asleep.

[AnnaZ]

Battle and Lewis, whose neighbors said moved into their Portland apartment complex last spring, worked as nursing assistants at a nursing home.

 

Uh, I believe Ms. Lewis also interned twice for the Mayor of Portland. Why'd they leave that out?

[cake_crumb]

"I wonder if the Portland chief of police is still asleep."

...Or perhaps hiding under his desk, repeating "I will not profile. Islam is the religion of peace. I will not profile. Islam is the religion of peace. I will not profile. Islam is the religion of peace..." over and over again.

[breakem]

too bad the feds cannot refuse cooperation like this pantywaost did. Put a fence around the town and let tham wallow in their own sewage.

[doug from upland]

Keep your eyes open. Watch for things that are unusual like filming buildings, bridges, power plants, etc. (and if they take a bath and wash their hair that might be worth reporting)

[csvset]

Greetings! We're Islamist extremists and we've come to kill you! Have a nice day!

[cake_crumb]

"too bad the feds cannot refuse cooperation like this pantywaost did."

Yeah, that was really something. The mayor was in on that too, IIRC. There are not words in the English language to express how really MAD that made me...STILL makes me.

No wonder the terrorist types are attracted to Portland.

[RWG]

One person in Seattle and four to nine in Portland is hardly an international terrorist cell in operation...right, one or two short of the group from Florida who crashed into the WTC. Yeah, don't worry, what could a few monsters do?

[cake_crumb]

"One person in Seattle and four to nine in Portland is hardly an international terrorist cell in operation...right, one or two short of the group from Florida who crashed into the WTC."

....And NINE MORE than the registered Democrat terrorists who were arrested from the terrorist cell in Buffalo, N.Y.

[mikeIII]

Love it or leave it.

Oh, they love it, alright. There's freedom to practice their "religion", run their own schools and mosques and raise monies for their "charities"; a fertile ground for conversions and spread of Islam.

[Michael2001]

"The reaction is, 'Why are they doing this to this community?' There's fear and concern," said the mosque leader, who declined to give his name. "Muslims are looked upon differently. People are rethinking, 'Should we even live in the United States.' "

I'm starting to like the way this is going.

[Lion's Cub]

What about that member of the Naval Reserve that was arrested in Tacoma a few months ago? Didn't he and his buddy Ujaama turn out to have connections to radical imam Abu Hamza al Masri in London?

Yup. I assume you mean Sami Samir El-Kassem who enlisted under the alias Semi Osman. Story here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/722854/posts