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Southpark Republicans
Tech Central Station ^ | October 7, 2002 | Stephen W. Stanton

Posted on 10/06/2002 11:52:53 PM PDT by HAL9000

Picture a typical Republican. Perhaps you see images of George Bush, John Ashcroft, Ronald Reagan, or maybe even Alex P. Keaton. Basically, many people think Republicans are a bunch of stodgy white guys with money.

Times are changing. The Republican A-list now includes Colin Powell, Christie Whitman, J.C. Watts, and Condoleeza Rice. Women and minorities have been making great strides in the party, but they generally dress, talk, and act like their predecessors. You are more likely to find them at a formal reception than a rock concert.

If Republicans are so different from mainstream America, then who voted for them? The nation has more Republican congressmen and state governors than any other political party, plus control of the White House. There are not enough Alex P. Keatons to account for these election results. Our nation is among the most diverse on earth. Half of the voters are women, a quarter are minorities. There are millions of union workers, retirees, immigrants, government workers, customer service employees, and individuals in low paying jobs, unemployed or on some form of public assistance. All of these groups are expected to lean left. Surely, the stodgy, affluent, religious white guys are outnumbered in the electorate by a huge margin. Yet Republicans candidates still do well. How is that possible?

The answer could very well be the "Southpark Republicans." The name stems from the primetime cartoon "Southpark" that clearly demonstrates the contrast within the party. The show is widely condemned by some moralists, including members of the Christian right. Yet in spite of its coarse language and base humor, the show persuasively communicates the Republican position on many issues, including hate crime legislation ("a savage hypocrisy"), radical environmentalism, and rampant litigation by ambitious trial lawyers. In one episode, industrious gnomes pick apart myopic anti-corporate rhetoric and teach the main characters about the benefits of capitalism.

Southpark Republicans are true Republicans, though they do not look or act like Pat Robertson. They believe in liberty, not conformity. They can enjoy watching The Sopranos even if they are New Jersey Italians. They can appreciate the tight abs of Britney Spears or Brad Pitt without worrying about the nation's decaying moral fiber. They strongly believe in liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, and free markets. However, they do not live by the edicts of political correctness.

The Southpark Republicans are an incredibly diverse group encompassing a variety of nontraditional conservatives, such as the Terminator, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Bruce Willis supported Republicans because of their commitment to lower taxes and fiscal discipline. Rap artist and movie actor LL Cool J recently endorsed NY governor George Pataki.

The most important Southpark Republicans are not famous. They are the millions of people of every age, race, sex, and religion that generally agree that government spending is usually not the best way to deal with the nation's problems. Many of these individuals can tell you why Ayn Rand should displace some other authors in high school literature classes. They know firsthand from endless hours at the DMV, at the post office, and preparing income tax forms that government wastes time and money. They know a nation cannot tax its way to greatness.

If he were alive today, John F. Kennedy could very well be a Southpark Republican. He rightly proclaimed, "An economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget—just as it will never produce enough jobs or profits." You read that right. JFK was a supply-side tax cutter. His alleged private exploits would place him squarely within the Southpark wing of the Republican Party.

Sound farfetched? There have been many Democrats that changed parties. Ronald Reagan, Senator Phil Gramm, and Mayor Mike Bloomberg were all once Democrats that became Republicans. The Democratic Party moved left, and the people that stood in the same place increasingly found their views shared by the elephants of the GOP. But not all elephants belong in the same herd. Pat Buchanan pushes a Christian/protectionist agenda that has absolutely nothing in common with the Libertarian folks who support free trade and complete separation of church and state. Depending on whom you ask, "Conservative" can mean smaller government of lower hemlines. (Hint: Southpark Republicans are more likely to get Cosmo than the Weekly Standard.)

The Southpark Republicans are not new, though they may now be more vocal. The party finally seems willing to embrace members that listen to the hard rock and rap music long denounced by the old guard. Heck, even vegetarians are welcome.

The media generally misrepresents Republicans as religious rich white males. This is patently false. Half of the voting public is Republican. They watch R rated movies, enjoy a few drinks at happy hour, and even go to the occasional Wrestlemania. Hopefully, the Southpark Republicans will shatter the unfair stereotype and set the record straight. As Cartman would say, "That would be pretty sweet."



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: neoconservative; republicans; rino; southpark; southparkrepublicans
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To: All
More like South Park Libertarians.
41 posted on 10/07/2002 8:33:34 AM PDT by tharkun
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To: tubebender
I think they are from Colorado. Great article. Boy, have I been outed, except for the Cosmo thing. I tend to like Glenn Beck better than Sean Hannity. More humor is needed in the ranks. The Democrats can't provide ALL the laughs.
42 posted on 10/07/2002 8:35:20 AM PDT by chnsmok
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To: tharkun
Not big l libertarians the episode "Osama Bin Laden has Farty Pants" specifically endorsed military action against the terrorist at the end( although they made fun of a lot of other stuff in the war on terror the kids got onto the schoolbus in gasmasks).
43 posted on 10/07/2002 8:36:40 AM PDT by weikel
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To: discostu
Ahhh...I thought Reagan Democrats crossed over in large part because of Reagan's social conservatism: PROLIFE.
44 posted on 10/07/2002 9:13:09 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: Norwell
The Reagan Democrats I'm related to by blood (formerly Kennedy Democrats, my mother and grandfather, plus some family friends) crossed over largely for his fyscal policy which was in line with Kennedy's and because Carter's "tax 'em 'til it hurts then tax the pain" (I htink my mom stole that line from somewhere, not sure where) mentality had clearly failed (my mom was the first person I heard use a FR style renaming, she came up with "Dutaxes" for Dukakis). Most of them disagreed with Reagan on social issues, but they were tired of their paycheck belonging to the government.

You're milage may vary, that's just how it worked in my little corner of the world.
45 posted on 10/07/2002 9:19:58 AM PDT by discostu
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To: steve-b
BZZZZTTTT!!! I'm sorry; the correct answer is "Christian Right" = "Buchanan (0.1%) Republican"

I don't think so Steve. If that were the case Gerald Ford would have received more votes than Ronald Reagan in 1976: he didn't. If that were the case the party platform would have it's prolife planks struck: they are there.

I do recognize the type of Republican this article speaks of. One of the characteristics the author does not touch on is that almost without exception they are a little to good to serve their country in uniform

This has been a characteristic of the "Kevin Raye/Jeb Bradley" style of Young-Republican I have been watching for a long while.

46 posted on 10/07/2002 9:21:44 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: HAL9000
Southpark Republicans? Hmm, something to add to the lexicon, I guess.

However, I still prefer, and consider myself, in the words of Peggy Noonan to still be a:

Broken Glass Republican

...and always will be.

47 posted on 10/07/2002 9:23:24 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: Norwell
Better check further up in the thread where we have ACTUAL US soldiers supporting South Park. You're attempts at classifying South Park fans are failing miserably.
48 posted on 10/07/2002 9:26:26 AM PDT by discostu
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To: ZULU
Ms. Roukema is a RINO who had a voting record like a Democrat and who has stated she would NOT support the party choice in her district

Yes, I'd read you had a good Reagan-Republican (i.e. prolife, opposed to homosexualizing the military, etc.) as opposed to a Southpark-Republican running. How is he making out in the polls?

49 posted on 10/07/2002 9:26:47 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: Norwell
I am a South Park Republican who has already voted for Scott Garrett in two primaries and will vote for him in the general.

When Marge Roekema was on the ballot, I left the line blank.

You are now something like 0-6 in your attempts to blanket-label the "South Park Republican" group.

Keep trying.

50 posted on 10/07/2002 9:29:13 AM PDT by dead
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To: discostu
Read Carefully: the distinction between somebody who watches Southpark and the Jeb-Bradley type she describes.

As for how you spend your time: If you want to spend hours of your life in front of the tube fine with me.

Regarding the actuality of the soldiers, I'll take your word for it: you must be tracking IP addresses.

51 posted on 10/07/2002 9:30:37 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: Norwell
Well, here's one soldier who watched South Park while on active duty and still continue to watch it as a retiree. Thursdays mornings were always interesting in the unit because the majority of the platoon would discuss the previous night's episode.
52 posted on 10/07/2002 9:33:31 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Norwell
So you're calling Strider44 a liar? I wouldn't go there.

Why is it so important to you to label SP fans "fake" Republicans. In case you didn't notice until reagan started the big reach across the aisle the GOP was pretty regularly getting it's ass handed to it in elections. Take our votes an be happy. We're in complete agreement on 2 out 3 of the major section of political thought (fyscal conservatives, constitutional constructionalists, just not socially conservative), as Meatloaf pointed out many moons ago: 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Instead of trying to boot us to the other side and brand us charlatans and fakers you should take your victories as they come.
53 posted on 10/07/2002 9:38:43 AM PDT by discostu
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To: dead
I believe you but the anecdote is irrelevent.

This is actually an article addressing demographics and I am simply pointing out that I think the author is basically incorrect as to the composition of the Republican Party. It is primarily white and christian. Again, this is probably not the case in Massachusetts and Connecticut.

Perhaps Tom Sowell or Ben Wattenberg will write a little more about which groups are voting for which party. As I understand it, the demographic group the author describes in the article is not large enough to make a difference.

Time will tell though: If the Reagan-type candidates begin to lose to the type of person described in the article, I'd take another look. I think Bill Schneiders analysis of the election is correct and it points to the reverse of what the author posits.

54 posted on 10/07/2002 9:44:30 AM PDT by Norwell
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To: Norwell
One of the characteristics the author does not touch on is that almost without exception they are a little to [sic] good to serve their country in uniform

Try reading Msg#18, Msg#23, etc.

And, as I say when I see someone who doesn't distinguish between "to", "too", and "two" -- "Et tu?"

55 posted on 10/07/2002 9:46:23 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Norwell
This Navy vet's a big fan.

The difference between conservative and liberal reactions to South Park is definitive - when they parody hunters and gun owners in the "Volcano" episode we laughed along with them ("he's coming right for us!!") but when they skewer Greenpeace in the "Rain Forest" episode or Babs in the "Mecha-Streisand" episode you could have heard the screams and the lawsuit threats all the way from Hollywood to the Amazon. The difference is a sense of humor. The libs lost theirs somewhere around 1971...

56 posted on 10/07/2002 9:47:44 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Norwell
I am simply pointing out that I think the author is basically incorrect as to the composition of the Republican Party. It is primarily white and christian. Again, this is probably not the case in Massachusetts and Connecticut. Perhaps Tom Sowell or Ben Wattenberg will write a little more about which groups are voting for which party

Your post is so rich in irony that it could serve as an instant cure for anemia.

57 posted on 10/07/2002 9:48:11 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Phantom Lord
Stupid hippies!
58 posted on 10/07/2002 9:49:00 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: CollegeRepublican; Phantom Lord
Of course, let's remember the Sea People episode. Sea Monkeys + .......
59 posted on 10/07/2002 9:50:40 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: discostu
Reagan's "Big Reach" had more to do with attracting the "Wallace Vote" than anything else. They are the reverse of the demographic the author references. That is how he nearly beat Ford.

To expand, the Todd-Whitman-Republican business has always been around (Senator Javits, Mathias, Governor Romney) and they were precisely the folks undermining Ronald Reagan in 1976 and 1980.

Again, an interesting article. I don't believe that a demographic study would back up the thesis though. The last analysis of the election I read (published in the Economist) covered the difference between the "Red Zone" and "Blue Zone". In this article the primary determinant of voting habits was race and the frequency of church attendance. Frequency of "South Park" viewing was not examined.

60 posted on 10/07/2002 9:53:14 AM PDT by Norwell
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