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McDermott accuses Bush of plotting to be Emperor
The Seattle Times ^ | 10/7/02

Posted on 10/07/2002 7:11:56 AM PDT by ppaul

U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott broadened his attack on George W. Bush's war plans yesterday, saying the president is threatening military action in Iraq as part of a plot to crown himself emperor of America.

Criticized for saying on a trip to Iraq early last week that Bush would mislead the American public, McDermott, a Seattle Democrat, was back in his district yesterday telling cheering supporters that Bush is planning a war to distract voters' attention from domestic problems.

He said Bush is trying to "submarine" efforts to restart weapons inspections in Iraq to give him a pretext for starting a war — a war McDermott said is being planned in part to bolster U.S. oil interests.

"And what we are dealing with right now in this country is whether we are having a kind of bloodless, silent coup or not," McDermott said at a town-hall meeting at the Jefferson Park Community Center on Beacon Hill. The event was sponsored by local Democrats and other groups in his congressional district.

'Like sheep'

At the heart of the debate, McDermott said, is whether Congress or the president has the power to declare war.

"This president is trying to bring to himself all the power to become an emperor — to create Empire America," he said.

And he warned his supporters, "If you go along like sheep that is what will happen."

State Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance said McDermott's comments about a coup "were the most irresponsible thing I've ever heard an American politician say."

"Sometimes politicians, like everyone else, will blurt out things they don't mean," Vance said. "But it sounds like he has thought about this carefully and really believes that."

The resolution Congress will vote on next week was negotiated between the White House and Congressional leaders of both parties.

"The president is not trying to bypass Congress," Vance said. "He's taking his case to Congress."

"If President Bush is engaged in a coup then his co-conspirators are Richard Gephardt and Joseph Lieberman," he said, referring to Democratic leaders.

About 200 people showed up for McDermott's meeting in the Beacon Hill Community Center. Nearly all were supporters.

Outside, four or five protesters carried signs objecting to McDermott's recent trip to Iraq and his comments about Bush and Saddam Hussein.

"Saddam Good — Bush Bad. This is Baghdad Jim's Mind On Drugs," said a sign carried by Brandon Swalley of Lakewood.

"I think he should be thrown out," she said.

When McDermott arrived, he was escorted into the hall by Seattle police and followed by a few protesters, one of whom shouted after him, "Our president is not a liar. If you want to say it, say it here but don't go to foreign lands to say it."

Inside the crowd was heavily in favor of McDermott's view. When opponents took a microphone to talk, they were shouted at and told to get to their question. Supporters, though, were able to talk uninterrupted and give anti-war speeches.

Pattern of deception

Late last week McDermott said that he may have overstated his case against Bush while in Iraq. But yesterday it was clear he believes there's a pattern of deception within the Bush administration to justify a war.

He said that Bush is using the memory of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to fuel a war with Iraq.

"One of the dilemmas we've had since 9/11 is that this country has been continuously terrorized by the government," McDermott said. "Every week they announce a new threat. 'Today is a code orange.' 'Today is a code red.'

"Granted it was an awful day. It was a heinous act. Nobody has anything but horror over what happened that day.

"But the message to draw from that day is not that we should suddenly go to war with the whole world, which is what the president is saying."

McDermott is convinced that Bush is bent on war with Iraq to distract voters' attention from a collapsing stock market and other problems at home.

"It is the oldest game in the book," he said. "They found this war very convenient to obscure people's views about what is happening domestically."

McDermott said he and two other Democratic members of Congress went to Iraq to see firsthand the effect of economic sanctions on the country, as well as to tell Iraqi leaders that if they didn't agree to weapons inspections there would be a war.

He said the demand for inspections was delivered to 15 or 20 government officials, but not to Saddam, who they did not ask to see.

"We knew there was no point in getting into a situation where we're shaking hands and smiling with somebody we don't really think is doing the right thing by the country or the world, and we knew that message would get to him."

Connecting the dots

McDermott's comments went much further than his television interviews from Iraq, in which he said Bush would mislead Americans in order to build support for a war.

When someone asked him if the war was meant to bolster U.S. oil interests, McDermott talked about what oil companies could gain from a war and said, "I'm not going to connect the dots exactly, but I think a dotted line certainly seems within the realm of possibility. ...

"Oil is certainly a part of it but I don't think it's the underlying issue." The underlying issue, he said repeatedly, is a fight over the Constitutional power to declare war.

"People that I trust say if we don't derail this coup that is going on, we are going to wind up with a government run by the president of the United States and all the rest of us will be standing around just watching it happen."

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1 posted on 10/07/2002 7:11:56 AM PDT by ppaul
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Wow. McDermott was bad enough when I was growing up in WA. But this stuff is positively insane.
2 posted on 10/07/2002 7:13:26 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
WHAT SLIMEY ROCK DID THIS GUY CRAWL OUT FROM UNDER??? I CAN'T BELIEVE HE IS SAYING THESE THINGS!!!!

NO WONDER THE DEMS ARE IN PANIC MODE!

3 posted on 10/07/2002 7:15:23 AM PDT by mrb1960
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4 posted on 10/07/2002 7:15:39 AM PDT by William McKinley
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To: ppaul

"LAST WEEK:

Iraqi Health Minister Omaid Medhat to McDermott (D-Wash, Iraq), Bonior (D-Michigan, Iraq),
and Thompson (D Calif, Iraq):

"Thank you all for being so incredibly stupid and traitors
to your country. Do you realize that here in Iraq we, from Tikrit,
must gang-rape entire families, and then cut up some of the
children into tiny bite-sized pieces to be fed to our dogs as their parents watch,
before those parents lower themselves to the very lowly position from which you first approached us.
Saddam thanks you very very much, and we will soon send more instructions after you return.
In the meantime, just attack your President and obstruct his plans for homeland security."


THE REAL DANGER FROM IGNORING SADDAM

Dead children, previously playing in Halabja [March 1988].
Murders protected by McDermott, Bonior, Thompson and others.


6 posted on 10/07/2002 7:15:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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7 posted on 10/07/2002 7:16:20 AM PDT by smith288
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To: ppaul
Let McDoofus talk all he wants to; the more he opens his mouth, the more popular Bush gets!
8 posted on 10/07/2002 7:16:38 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: ppaul
Sounds like someone forgot to take his meds today.
9 posted on 10/07/2002 7:17:26 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: r9etb
But this stuff is positively insane.

It's often said that students major in psychology because they have severe mental problems themselves.

BTW, shouldn't this guy be in jail already for the "Newt taping"?

10 posted on 10/07/2002 7:17:34 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: r9etb
Someone better take that gun away from McDermott, first he shoots himself in the foot now he's shooting the Democrat Party in it's collective foot, or is it feets? On the other hand, let him go. He's doing more damage than any RNC attack ad could do.
11 posted on 10/07/2002 7:18:29 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: r9etb

After holding a town-hall meeting on Beacon Hill, U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott arrives yesterday
at Westlake Plaza with anti-American marchers protesting against President Bush's request to Congress for permission to attack Iraq.

12 posted on 10/07/2002 7:20:05 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: smith288
Great logo. Perfectly captures the modern Democratic Party.
13 posted on 10/07/2002 7:21:41 AM PDT by ServesURight
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To: ppaul
I thought it was touching to see the tiny AIDS ribbon on his vest.
14 posted on 10/07/2002 7:22:37 AM PDT by jz638
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To: ppaul
McDermott is plotting to be Court Jester!
15 posted on 10/07/2002 7:23:40 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: ppaul
McDermott accuses Bush of plotting to be Emperor

Whereas Bush wouldn't even have to accuse McDermott of being nuts.
16 posted on 10/07/2002 7:24:10 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: ppaul
Here is a picture of McDermott's hero, Saddam, receiving instructions of what to do next with the chicken from his sex therapist!


17 posted on 10/07/2002 7:24:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: r9etb
Insane is correct. Where is the network media coverage of this? Uh huh.
18 posted on 10/07/2002 7:25:59 AM PDT by rintense
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To: jz638
No. That's a ribbon of supporting Saddams WMD used, and tested, on children.
19 posted on 10/07/2002 7:27:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: ppaul
What an absolute unAmerican goon. Let him speak - let them all crawl out from under the rocks. Then let us note their names.

So great to see the real character of the local Dems. We just need to get a recording or video of his speech. Our ads are created.

20 posted on 10/07/2002 7:31:21 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ladtx
We conservatives should praise and congratulate McDermott because he is the only DemocRAT with the "cajones" to stand up and speak the real party line in public.  Until now the DemocRATS simply used the words "children, education, the elderly, and health care" to lull the gullible women and domesticated males (who vote on emotions instead of reason to believe) into believing that Socialism was best served with a warm fuzzy feeling.  Now that they are loosing their hold on the populace they now revert to massive scare tactics and new lies.

Never forget that Clinton was the real contender for the head of the new world order...Amerika!  (No, that's not misspelled.)
21 posted on 10/07/2002 7:34:42 AM PDT by DH
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To: r9etb
But this stuff is positively insane.

No kidding. I'll bet he's real popular amongst the sane Dem Congressmen.

22 posted on 10/07/2002 7:34:58 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ppaul
This is clearly the kind of man we need in the Whitehouse. I demand McDermott be named the Democratic candidate in the next Presidential race! He is a true American!

So pleeease Democrats, nomiinate Jim, the spokesman of the people! He'll win, honest!

23 posted on 10/07/2002 7:39:40 AM PDT by American Soldier
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To: 1Old Pro
A small village in Washington is obviously missing the town idiot...
24 posted on 10/07/2002 7:40:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ppaul
MR. MCDERMOTT, THIS IS THE POLICE! WE HAVE YOU SURROUNDED! PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE AND STEP AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!
25 posted on 10/07/2002 7:41:35 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: ppaul
"Granted it was an awful day [9/11]."

How big of you to admit that, McTraitor. But 9/11 was much more than just an awful day. It was the day most of us realized that we're in a War to the Death with radical Islam, which could have as many as tens of millions of adherents. As much as it upsets you that your subversive agenda - socialized medicine, socialist education, and socialism in general - has been put on the backburner, the fact is that Americans are in War mode now, and will be until the threat is vanquished. And after we succeed, we'll remember who the traitors were ---- and YOU are at the very top of the list.

26 posted on 10/07/2002 7:42:18 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ppaul
Please keep it up Jim. Say it every day until the elections. If at all possible, get a couple of your "crazy like you" friends to join in. That should do wonders for republicans in the elections.
27 posted on 10/07/2002 7:47:20 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: William Creel; r9etb; ppaul; mrb1960; ServesURight; Diogenesis; smith288; Real Cynic No More; ...
"If you think that McDermott is bad, you should of heard about ...."

If you think McDermott is bad have you forgotten about the 50% of the country that crawl on glass to vote for DemocRATS and the parts of the country where most of these RATS are concentrated?? This will refresh your memory in breathtaking reality.

28 posted on 10/07/2002 7:54:30 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: ppaul
Someone needs to make a movie of McDermott's life, using Kelsey Grammar in the lead role.
29 posted on 10/07/2002 7:58:49 AM PDT by Charles of Newark
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To: r9etb
Does McDimwit use medicinal marjuana? Maybe that explains some of it.
30 posted on 10/07/2002 8:00:32 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Rye
May Allah give his followers success somewhere in the vicinity of McDer-nitwit's place of abode. It's a sad thing to say, but it may take another terrorist attack to wake up the idiots.
31 posted on 10/07/2002 8:00:53 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: ppaul
McDermot has the same inebriated appearance as that hypocritical old sot Teddy Kennedy and the former two ton Tip O'Neill.

In a rational society, observant of the constitution, McDermot and his DemocRAT henchman would be tried and executed for treason - giving aid and comfort to an enemy of America.
32 posted on 10/07/2002 8:01:04 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ppaul; SJackson
Here is a link to the reality of the Islamofascists in conrol of the radical fundamentalist Islamakazi religion in the middle east. Of course Mullah McDermott bows to Mecca several times aday like a true believer: (Link to What the Mullahs of the Middle East Delivered as messages to their Islamakazi members in Mosques this past Friday)

O God, give victory to our mujahidin brothers everywhere" Saudi Friday sermon 4 October 2002

"O God, destroy the Americans...Jews...British" Iraqi sermon Friday sermon 4 October 2002

O God, take vengeance against the Jews and Americans" Palestinian-Gaza Friday sermon 4 October 2002

"O God...destroy the treacherous Zionists and their supporters" Syrian Friday sermon 4 October 2002

"O God,destroy the Jews (brothers of monkeys and the sons of pigs) ,..destroy the Christians " Yemeni Friday sermon 4 October 2002 ===========================================================

Our so called Peach Marchers have been bought and paid for by the same people who pushe death to America in their Mosques.

Thanks to SJackson for posting this grim reality of the Islamofascists in charge of their religion in the Middle East!

33 posted on 10/07/2002 8:02:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: billhilly
Please keep it up Jim. Say it every day until the elections. If at all possible, get a couple of your "crazy like you" friends to join in. That should do wonders for republicans in the elections.

Amen! If only the Republicans will have the, ahem, "intestinal fortitude" to actually beat the liberal traitors over the head with it. And keep doing it until even Democratic voters can (finally) understand.

34 posted on 10/07/2002 8:03:48 AM PDT by MarineDad
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To: r9etb
Yeah, and McDermott is ploting to be an idiot.
35 posted on 10/07/2002 8:08:48 AM PDT by oyez
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To: ppaul
McDermott appears to be a few cards short of a full deck......
36 posted on 10/07/2002 8:09:36 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: ppaul
McDermott accuses Bush of plotting to be Emperor

IF this were true, McDermott would've been taken out a few days ago.

37 posted on 10/07/2002 8:26:31 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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If Rep. McDermott did not know he was standing before that poster, he's an imbecile. If Rep. McDermott did know he was standing before that poster, he's a [I don't ordinarily use those words].
38 posted on 10/07/2002 8:35:18 AM PDT by GeneD
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To: ppaul
And he warned his supporters, "If you go along like sheep that is what will happen."

McDermott is a nutbag...but it's hard to argue against the above quote.

Stay active in local and state politics for your own sanity...and security.

39 posted on 10/07/2002 8:37:28 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: ppaul
This president is trying to bring to himself all the power to become an emperor — to create Empire America," he said.

Do we not have a constitution to prevent this. Oh wait he is a liberal. He thinks that all people are like libs who want to bend a shape the document to their needs. What a loser.

40 posted on 10/07/2002 8:44:41 AM PDT by NC Conservative
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To: jz638
I thought it was touching to see the tiny AIDS ribbon on his vest.

I thought it was his Young Pioneers scarf.

41 posted on 10/07/2002 8:47:03 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ppaul; dighton; Orual; aculeus; general_re; Poohbah
If Dubya is going to become Emperor, does he get to dress in cool duds, like this?

If he does, I wonder if there are any openings for Deputy Flunkeys, Sinister Henchmen, or Loyal Hangers-On?
I wonder what the pay scale is in an Empire?
Will it help me meet chicks?

42 posted on 10/07/2002 9:00:18 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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I wonder what the pay scale is in an Empire? Will it help me meet chicks?

Let's ask Emperor-Candidate Bob.

43 posted on 10/07/2002 9:06:23 AM PDT by dighton
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To: ppaul
Better listen to him. After all he is a great war hero! /sarcasm
44 posted on 10/07/2002 9:08:38 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: BlueLancer; dighton; aculeus; general_re
Bush will slyly dress in his Emperor's new clothes so as to confuse and confound his opponents.
45 posted on 10/07/2002 9:19:44 AM PDT by Orual
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bleating press, "Rep. Jim McDermott, how do you know that Bush is planning to be emperor?"

Rep. Jim McDermott, "because that is exactly what I would do, if I was president....ooops, I take that back, what I meant was..."

46 posted on 10/07/2002 9:22:06 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: r9etb
McDermott was bad enough when I was growing up in WA. But this stuff is positively insane.

Hey, he's a psychiatrist. What else would we expect?
(When I heard him frothing that the ONLY reason Dubya wants to go after
Sadaam is Oil on The Hugh Hewitt Show two weeks ago...I knew this guy was a wingnut, at best.)
47 posted on 10/07/2002 9:27:43 AM PDT by VOA
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To: ppaul
Democrats "feel" they can read minds. It's sooooooo much easier to condemn conservatives if you don't have to bother with facts. How would the media judge us if we said McDermott wants to be President of Iraq and he takes money from Saddam? When asked for proof we explain how reading minds is in fashion and we want on the bandwagon.

Reporters would blow us off, but they print this garbage when it drops from liberal mouths. Standards guys. Check your facts, not your "feelings".

U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott broadened his attack on George W. Bush's war plans yesterday, saying the president is threatening military action in Iraq as part of a plot to crown himself emperor of America.

48 posted on 10/07/2002 9:55:32 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: ppaul
Democrats "feel" they can read minds. It's sooooooo much easier to condemn conservatives if you don't have to bother with facts. How would the media judge us if we said McDermott wants to be President of Iraq and he takes money from Saddam? When asked for proof we explain how reading minds is in fashion and we want on the bandwagon.

Reporters would blow us off, but they print this garbage when it drops from liberal mouths. Standards guys. Check your facts, not your "feelings".

U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott broadened his attack on George W. Bush's war plans yesterday, saying the president is threatening military action in Iraq as part of a plot to crown himself emperor of America.

49 posted on 10/07/2002 9:56:12 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Rye
A hearty bump. McDermott is a TRAITOR in the fullest sense of the word.

I hope there's a serious purge when all this is over.

50 posted on 10/07/2002 10:08:44 AM PDT by Abar
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