Posted on 10/07/2002 7:26:32 PM PDT by CHACHI
I think one of my Nephews took it home with him and never brought it back.
For some reason the only name I can remember was Leonard Bernstein who is still prominently displayed on TV. I always wondered how prominent a Nazi would be shown on current TV.
And we shouldn't print that they are (members)unless it is written in stone.
Fine, before we proceed further since I don't want to bore you with "old news," please go ahead and list all those on the list provided that you already know to be socialists. Then we can deal with those on the list which for whatever reason you believe may not be socialists nor members of the DSA. Fair enough?
Better yet, which one/s on the list in particular are you in doubt of?
Just show me where it is stated that any of them are members of the DSA. If you can, I will go away happy. Till then you should not threaten the credibility by posting that they are members of the DSA.
Electoral tactics are only a means for DSA; the building of a powerful anti-corporate and ultimately socialist movement is the end. Where third party or non-partisan candidates represent significant social movements DSA locals have and will continue to build such organizations and support such candidates. DSA honored independent socialist Congressperson Bernie Sanders of Vermont at our last convention banquet, and we have always raised significant funds nationally for his electoral campaigns. At the same time, we were pleased to have Democratic Congressperson and Progressive Caucus member Bob Filner of San Diego introduce Sanders at the convention, and note that Progressive Caucus member Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) will be honored at our annual Debs-Thomas-Harrington dinner this Spring in Chicago.
DSA is a modest, sometimes effective organization, whose members have greatest influence in community-level electoral politics. DSA is not an electoral organization, but rather a democratic socialist political organization which aims to bring socialism into the mainstream of American politics. We endeavor to do so through a two-pronged strategy of education and organizing. Much of our work is cultural and ideological: forums, debates, publications. But our voice can only be heard if we simultaneously play a central, activist role within struggles relevant to working people, communities of color, women, gays and lesbians and other oppressed constituencies. We operate within progressive coalitions as an open socialist presence and bring to these movements an analysis and strategy which recognizes the fundamental need to democratize global corporate power. We do not see ourselves as a vanguard speaking for the masses nor do we romantically believe that a small socialist organization can unilaterally transform the U.S. electoral map.
from dsausa.org
Perhaps your reading comprehension skills are lacking. I never defended them. All I am asking for is PROOF they are members of the DSA as was posted.
Is not your goal to disprove the allegation? Then prove the charge wrong. Prove that none of them are members as is alleged. This is not a court of law. Bring on your evidence that they are not members.
Even with all the links you have been provided you are still unable to connect the dots. That's quiet an extrodinary feat for even the simplest of simpletons.
Can't you READ! I make no claims. I only ask for the author of the claim to provide a basis for his claim. Do you NOT want the truth?
You are the simpleton if you do not understand the difference between connecting dots and jumping to conclusions.
SENATOR ISELIN
There are exactly... fifty-seven
card-carrying members of the
Communist party in the Department
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I already know the truth. Question is do you want to know the truth? Truth is, the Progressive Caucus, and the Progressive Challenge Institute for Policy Study are branches of the DSA. So read on if you want to know the truth. The following is a report from the DSA-Chicago
Progressive Challenge Exceeds the Beltway, But Can It Reach Escape Velocity?
by Bob Roman
On the evening of Monday, April 21, the Progressive Challenge came to Chicago. Starting off with a town hall style meeting that brought together about 150 people in the UNITE hall at 333 S. Ashland in Chicago, the meeting was structured to present testimony from representative of various local organizations to local Congressional members of the Progressive Caucus.
DSA was particularly well represented by the testimony of the Youth Section's International Secretary, Daraka Larimore-Hall. Daraka Larimore-Hall gave an impassioned, coherent presentation that linked the various aspects of DSA's agenda with the project at hand. He also pointed out that the attitude on campus is not so much conservative or apathetic as practical. Ideology is not enough if it is not accompanied by useful politics.
Congressmen Jesse Jackson, Jr., Luis Gutierrez and Danny Davis attended the meeting, though only Representative Jackson was there for the entire program.
This initial outreach / organizing meeting of the Progressive Challenge in Chicago was organized and hosted by Chicago Jobs with Justice Committee for New Priorities as one of their monthly forums.
The Progressive Challenge is an effort to link the Congressional Progressive Caucus with the larger left grass roots network of single issue, constituent, labor and ideological organizations. The Institute for Policy Studies is very much the keystone organization of this project, which has brought together some 40 organizations including DSA, Americans for Democratic Action, United Electrical Workers, NETWORK, National Jobs for All Coalition to name a few. No one of these groups is a major player inside the Beltway, but together they have captured the attention of the Progressive Caucus and contributed to its growth.
The Progressive Challenge began with a conference on Capitol Hill in January of 1997. The conference was followed by a year of public briefings, working groups and brain-storming which resulted in the Fairness Agenda (see side-bar). The Fairness Agenda was unveiled at a Progressive Caucus State of the Union on January 27 of this year.
What brings the Fairness Agenda one step beyond political rhetoric is that each of the eight points have been accompanied by one or more pieces of legislation introduced by members of the Progressive Caucus.
But the Progressive Challenge is still very much a creature of the Beltway. If it is to be significantly useful to the participating groups and to the Progressive Caucus, if it is to make a difference in politics and in life, it must expand beyond this central if narrow venue. This is the central purpose of this meeting in Chicago in addition to other meeting planned or being planned in Atlanta, the Bay Area, Detroit, New York, New England, New Orleans. Meetings have already been held in Sand Diego, Maine and Boston. The DSA Youth Section is exploring the possibilities of a Youth Progressive Challenge with the Center for Campus Organizing, U.S. Student Association and Student Environmental Action Coalition.
In a very real way, the Progressive Challenge and the Fairness Agenda is the first fruit of the 1997 DSA National Convention. The focus of conversation and debate at the Convention was building a broader left. The Convention Resolution on Building a Broader Left called for a discussion among the democratic left on means for strengthening the progressive community, and it explicitly endorsed the Progressive Challenge as a venue for such a discussion, stating: "The Progressive Challenge represents a key center for this discussion in the context of its economic justice and equity agenda."
While the Progressive Challenge has made a brave and hopeful beginning in Chicago and elsewhere outside the Beltway, it may be too early in the season for it to prosper immediately. In Chicago, at least, the Progressive Challenge lacks an institutional base and resources. It resembles the early days of Jobs with Justice in Chicago, before the local union movement made the commitment to provide the resources for office and staff. This is not so much a comment on the project's prospects as a comment on just how far its organizers have to go.
connecting the dots: we provide the links, you decide for yourself if they are connected
If none of this helps you connect the dots once and for all, then you are indeed either a socialist here to deny and distract, or a stupidly stubborn flake beyond reach. One or the other is true.
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