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Woman left to discover jar containing her baby
Daily Record ^ | 10/8/02 | Lisa Adams

Posted on 10/09/2002 1:23:13 AM PDT by ALS

MY HORROR FIND AFTER ORDEAL OF ABORTION Oct 8 2002

Woman left to discover jar containing her baby

Lisa Adams Exclusive

A WOMAN who had an abortion was stunned to find the foetus left in a jar after a hospital blunder.

Nicola McManus made the horrific discovery when she was left in a room to answer a phone call from her husband.

The jar was labelled with her name.

She said: "I fell apart. I couldn't believe anyone could be careless enough just to leave it lying there. That image will live with me forever."

Mum-of-three Nicola, 27, received a a full apology from the hospital but plans to sue North Glasgow NHS Trust, claiming the handling of the abortion left her psychologically scarred.

She took the RU486 abortion pill, which requires no surgery and is supposed to make terminations easier.

However, she said it no quick fix and she was offered no counselling by Glasgow's Stobhill Hospital.

She said: "They explained the procedure and got me to sign some forms. But no one actually sat down and asked me if this was what I really wanted to do.

"I was struggling to get my head around it. They made me feel just like a number."

Nicola, from Lennoxtown, near Glasgow, was nine weeks pregnant when she had the abortion in August.

She and husband Frank, 26, who is epileptic, decided a fourth child would be too much to cope with.

Nicola's eldest son, Nathan, six, has behavioural problems and demands a large chunk of her time, as do Aiden, four, and baby Bethany.

The abortion pill works by causing a miscarriage. Nicola lay for hours in the ward waiting for it to take effect, then felt intense pain.

She said: "I wanted Frank to hold my hand but was told he could only stay during visiting hours. I was in a lot of pain and felt so alone."

Then, said Nicola: "They gave me a bed pan to take to the loo and something to cover it up. Eventually, I felt it happen. I was really upset. I've never felt so low."

She was relieved when Frank phoned to find out how she was.

Nurses showed her in to a side room to take the call and that's when she saw the jar containing the foetus.

She said: "I was mid-conversation and saw it. I told Frank and he tried to comfort me but I wasn't listening any more. I was crying.

"I was clearly upset when I returned to the ward and the nurses asked what was wrong. How could they not know?"

Nicola filed an official complaint and received an apologetic letter from the trust which said the room was not normally used by patients.

General manager Mary McGinley wrote: "Unfortunately, the products of conception from your termination were in a labelled jar ready to be sent to pathology and awaiting collection.

"The ward sister apologises for the obvious distress this has caused you."

Until now, the abortion pill has only been given in hospitals but family planning clinics and GPs were recently given the go ahead to use them.

Women may even be allowed to take the drug alone at home.

But Nicola fears a lack of medical support could leave some women traumatised.

She said: "Women need more counselling before abortions, not less.

"I will never get over what happened to me."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortion
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1 posted on 10/09/2002 1:23:13 AM PDT by ALS
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To: ALS
"That image will live with me forever."

As well it should, murderer.

2 posted on 10/09/2002 1:27:15 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: ALS
She should consider herself lucky she isn't being prosecuted for murder.
3 posted on 10/09/2002 1:33:28 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: ALS
AND, just what the heck did she think an abortion was??? Murderer! Just punishment in my opinion!
4 posted on 10/09/2002 1:43:23 AM PDT by blondee123
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To: ALS
"I will never get over what happened to me."

I hope so!

5 posted on 10/09/2002 1:51:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: blondee123
Baby? I thought it was a Viable tissue mass: what's the problem? Should have the same impact of seeing a removed tooth, according to the "choicers".
6 posted on 10/09/2002 1:54:13 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: ALS
She and husband Frank, 26, who is epileptic, decided a fourth child would be too much to cope with.

This is the most monstrous aspect of this story. Use birth control or get your tubes tied if you can't cope with more children, idiots. They should take the other children from them and then they won't have to cope with anything.

7 posted on 10/09/2002 1:58:30 AM PDT by motexva
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To: ALS
That image will live with me forever."

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Welcome to reality. What do women think happens to the so-called fetus after abortion? They just mysteriously disappear into a cloud of beautiful rhethoric?

8 posted on 10/09/2002 2:12:34 AM PDT by RLK
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To: Tree of Liberty
How about a law requiring a 'mother' to see the remains in formal ceremony after every abortion? The father must be invited to attend, if his name is known, along with her parents. I see potential here. FReegards....
9 posted on 10/09/2002 2:19:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: blondee123
Unfortunately, the products of conception from your termination were in a labelled jar ready to be sent to pathology and awaiting collection.

Pathologists. Are they medical researchers? The remains of the morning after pill were labelled. I didn't know that researchers could use such early stage bodies. Seeing her name on the jar was creepy. I would suspect the remains needed a careful DNA background of the mother. FReegards....

10 posted on 10/09/2002 2:24:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: ALS
She said: "I fell apart. I couldn't believe anyone could be careless enough just to leave it lying there. That image will live with me forever."

What a shame the baby had to die for you to realize your a killer maybe you wont be careless next time and keep your legs together i hope the image haunts you all the days of your life and then some

ABORTION IS MURDER

She and husband Frank, 26, who is epileptic, decided a fourth child would be too much to cope with.

A full size photo of the fetus should be sent home to this fella as well signed "this was your child now just a memmory " to bad he dont experiance the same trauma as she will!

11 posted on 10/09/2002 2:29:46 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The father must be invited to attend,

I'd agree except that what if the father wanted to keep the baby and the "mother" was unilaterally exercising her "right to choose"?

12 posted on 10/09/2002 2:32:44 AM PDT by altair
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To: ALS
She said: "I fell apart. I couldn't believe anyone could be careless enough just to leave it lying there. That image will live with me forever."

"How dare they confront me with the reality of my own crime!"

13 posted on 10/09/2002 2:54:04 AM PDT by Petronski
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To: altair
I'd agree except that what if the father wanted to keep the baby and the "mother" was unilaterally exercising her "right to choose"?

That is exactly why he should be invited to attend. Let mothers consider this rather... ehem... uncomfortable situation.

14 posted on 10/09/2002 3:00:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: ALS
Fortunately it's just a blob of tissue.

< /sarcasm>

15 posted on 10/09/2002 3:05:46 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Aquinasfan
"I will never get over what happened to me."

What's with all this "poor me" stuff? Her baby won't "get over it" either.

16 posted on 10/09/2002 3:13:06 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: TxBec
Makes you wonder who is the victim here.
17 posted on 10/09/2002 4:20:05 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: ALS
....and we are supposed to feel sorry for her.....?
18 posted on 10/09/2002 4:24:32 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: TxBec
I am just so broken up that her delicate psyche was disturbed by seeing the consequences of her abortive action./sarcasm
19 posted on 10/09/2002 4:25:43 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ALS
"I will never get over what happened to me."

I hope she see's it every time she closes her eyes!
20 posted on 10/09/2002 4:29:48 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: ALS
Wow...maybe now she and her husband will consider permanent birth control.
21 posted on 10/09/2002 4:31:05 AM PDT by lsee
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To: ALS
Whats the matter honey, after all, its just parisitic tissue. Not a real, living, feeling, child. Abortion is Murder, and she is a murderer.
22 posted on 10/09/2002 4:38:54 AM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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To: ALS
This give me an idea. How about a law requiring the aborting mother to hold her dead "fetus" for five minutes before the baby is sent to pathology.

Maybe we can tramatize all mothers who kill their children.
23 posted on 10/09/2002 4:40:41 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: ALS
This murdering c*nt kills her child, because she "...decided a fourth child would be too much to cope with..." (apparently this imbecile has never heard of 'the other A-Word', ADOPTION) and is then discomfited by the sight of the baby's body...

Now she wants to sue...

This bitch needs to be spayed.

24 posted on 10/09/2002 4:42:59 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: ALS
"General manager Mary McGinley wrote: "Unfortunately, the products of conception from your termination were in a labelled jar ready to be sent to pathology and awaiting collection. ...

Gee.

Such compassion for an aborted child. /sarcasm

The mother at least realized what she had done.

The doctor?

The father "had to leave halfway through a delivery!) since visitinghours were over, then the baby is labeled "products" .... As it were no more than a the usual contents of a bedpan.

At least the hospital gave her some towels ... because they knew they had to hide the dead baby.

25 posted on 10/09/2002 4:44:01 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE
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To: RLK
Welcome to reality. What do women think happens to the so-called fetus after abortion? They just mysteriously disappear into a cloud of beautiful rhethoric?

It certainly raises an interesting question about how American women will react when their DIY abortions take place in the home. What will happen when they have to dispose of the body of their dead baby? Will they flush it? Bury it? Does the box of RU486 pills come with a handy baggie? Hopefully it will be traumatic enough to wake people up to the reality that abortion is murder.

26 posted on 10/09/2002 4:51:10 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Petronski
>>>"How dare they confront me with the reality of my own crime!"<<<

The most poignant post on the thread.

*bump*

27 posted on 10/09/2002 4:51:34 AM PDT by fone
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To: Lil'freeper
It certainly raises an interesting question about how American women will react when their DIY abortions take place in the home. What will happen when they have to dispose of the body of their dead baby? Will they flush it? Bury it? Does the box of RU486 pills come with a handy baggie? Hopefully it will be traumatic enough to wake people up to the reality that abortion is murder.

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Most of them are so damned cold and hardened any more it wouldn't make any difference. Take a pill, quat over the toilet, and dump out another kid. If it doesn't flush, call rotorooter. That's as much as you can expect.

28 posted on 10/09/2002 4:59:17 AM PDT by RLK
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To: OldEagle
Makes you wonder who is the victim here.

Sad, but she'll have grounds for a lawsuit against the hospital. (Merely for viewing the consequences of her act.)

29 posted on 10/09/2002 5:11:55 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ALS
Why is she so upset by the sight of a mere "fetus"?

I am glad she will be haunted for life but sorry, its her own damn fault for being so ignorant and selfish. Her own children will also suffer as they will always be missing a brother or sister.

30 posted on 10/09/2002 6:01:20 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: ALS
It is a terrible thing to be confronted with the consequences of your choices, isn't it?
31 posted on 10/09/2002 8:14:28 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper
Reality bump
32 posted on 10/09/2002 8:48:49 AM PDT by fone
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To: blondee123
AND, just what the heck did she think an abortion was???

For what it's worth, she knows now. Maybe she'll become pro-life as a result. We can pray. May her experience be publicized far and wide.

Some people have to learn the hard way. It is not coincidence or hypocrisy that many now working fervently in the pro-life movement have had abortions when they were young. They know all too well, firsthand, what abortion really does to women.

33 posted on 11/10/2002 3:47:37 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: ALS
"That image will live with me forever."

Good.

34 posted on 12/05/2002 1:50:29 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: ALS
Absolutely sickening...
35 posted on 12/05/2002 4:45:38 PM PST by MrJingles
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To: ALS
I wonder how much she paid to have her baby put in that jar ?
36 posted on 12/05/2002 4:47:19 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: RLK
Hmmm. I know a couple of plumbers who could CLEAN THESE FOLKS OUT... Think of the Post-Traumatic-Stress-Disorder claims, if such were stuck in the plumbing...

Not that such has ever happened. But if it does, I will encourage them to bankrupt everybody involved.

37 posted on 12/05/2002 4:57:32 PM PST by patton
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To: PoorMuttly
Enough to pay for dinner out for the sicko doc!
38 posted on 12/05/2002 5:36:22 PM PST by ALS
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To: ALS
A program on NPR a couple of years ago said that in China, doctors and family members fight over who gets to take the fetus home...to eat.

Nice world we live in, huh.
39 posted on 12/05/2002 5:42:20 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: Tree of Liberty
As well it should, murderer.

Harsh.

It is the truth though.

40 posted on 12/05/2002 5:56:37 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: RaceBannon; firebrand; Clemenza; PARodrig; Yehuda; rmlew
ping
41 posted on 12/05/2002 6:33:34 PM PST by Cacique
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