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Postmortem on a Phony War (A critical article worth reading)
Arutz Sheva ^ | 10-10-02 | Angelo M. Codevilla

Posted on 10/09/2002 3:41:57 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
I dunno... in this I see a great facility for 20/20 hindsight which, in the current day, is about as useful as tits on a boar hog.

The question now is what to do given the situation now. Merciless prosecution of terror-inclined administrations is a sensible action. It will be ugly, but it must be done. The alternative is destruction.
21 posted on 10/09/2002 9:19:43 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: RLK
Parts of it will eventually published as an article elsewhere. be In it I tlak about the elite Republican's hotility and fear of Reagan prior to the 1980 presidential campaign:

You don't say, well I'll look for it, then we tlak about it then. can

22 posted on 10/09/2002 11:47:02 PM PDT by snodog
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To: colorado tanker; SJackson; All
Does this article smell a little like Scott Ritter to anyone else?.....


23 posted on 10/10/2002 3:28:47 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
ROTFLOL!
24 posted on 10/10/2002 9:14:32 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SJackson; RJCogburn; LarryM
Can one read this article, accept the analysis and still support the current administration.... answer, yes. The Democrat version will only pander more to globalist opinion.
25 posted on 10/10/2002 7:00:47 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: Ramius
I dunno... in this I see a great facility for 20/20 hindsight which, in the current day, is about as useful as tits on a boar hog...The question now is what to do given the situation now. Merciless prosecution of terror-inclined administrations is a sensible action. It will be ugly, but it must be done. The alternative is destruction.

Hindsight, I don't know, it's not written yet.

Certainly van Creveld's observations of Israel's unwillingness to capitilize on her military superiority for the last three decades are accurate.

His observations that all enemies do not share the same motivations/value system are correct. You seem to recognize that, lots of Freepers seem to, but do they represent our nations course in combatting this enemy?

Merciless...ugly..it must be done. The alternative is destruction.

Are you convinced that's our policy? I hope so, time will tell.

26 posted on 10/10/2002 7:10:11 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson; Black Agnes; MadIvan; Clemenza; Dutchy
A brilliant analysis of the phoney conservatives running the show in DC.

Hey BA ping your list.

27 posted on 10/10/2002 7:20:34 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: 1bigdictator
Can one read this article, accept the analysis and still support the current administration.... answer, yes. The Democrat version will only pander more to globalist opinion.

You're right, but of course you only address two choices, one flawed on it's face, the other still, at best, shrouded in mystery, and moving very, very slowly.

28 posted on 10/10/2002 7:25:16 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: rmlew; firebrand; Dutchy; StarFan; nutmeg; RaceBannon; Coleus; sneakypete; MissAmericanPie; ...
Hmmmm ping.
29 posted on 10/10/2002 7:25:21 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: RLK
When and where will your book / article be published?

I'd like to read it.

30 posted on 10/10/2002 7:38:34 PM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: Lloyd227
Are you familiar with my work at all?
31 posted on 10/10/2002 8:22:45 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
No, I'm afraid that I'm not familiar. Is there more available online? Can you email me a link?

Thanks,
Lloyd
32 posted on 10/11/2002 3:32:49 AM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: VOA
I suspect that up until sometime in January, the phony war will go on. If Iraq is still run by Sadaam then...all heck will probably break loss before March.

I've got January 2 in the pool for the start of serious active hostilities with Iraq (current no-fly-zone actions are prelude only, aren't seriously active). That's the first new moon of the new year. We own the night, militarily. The Nov new moon is the election, Bush wouldn't do that, and the Dec new moon is too close to too many religious holidays.

Jan 2 new moon is after the holidays, with still enough winter / cold weather left. This latter is needed for combat efficiency in a MOPP posture. I don't think hosilities will start as late as March for this reason.

If we don't attack by the Feb new moon, I'm leaning towards the ideas of the author of this piece. It's time to kick @$$ and chew bubble gum, and we should be all out of bubble gum.

33 posted on 10/11/2002 3:47:31 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Lloyd227
Go to RLK's profile page. I clicked on this thread because I saw him commenting. I figured if he was on the thread, it was worth a look.
34 posted on 10/11/2002 3:52:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: SJackson
This writer resolutely ignores our buildup against Iraq and our war planning against Saddam. He also chooses to ignore the fact that our campaign against Al Qaeda is continuing. Finally, he took Bush at face value when the President condemned the Israeli invasion of the West Bank, when in point of fact, American intelligence officers were working with the Israelis during this war.

Saying that we're in a phony war does not make it so.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

35 posted on 10/11/2002 4:07:32 AM PDT by section9
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To: Lloyd227
OK, I see where you are coming from. I have been writing a series for years elsewhere which now runs about 1,000 pages. It is essentially a graduate level course. In addition, I am setting up my own web site at:

http://members.mountain.net/theanalyticpapers/

My own site has updated editions of several articles, and Descriptions of many others including a newly written over-view of the Viet Nam series. I suggest you go there first. Only about 15% of my recently written material is there at present. My own site will allow me to write in additional areas. In the next week I will publish economics paper there. In the long term future it will also have note or papers on surface state chemistry, marine survey, resin chemistry, and optical physics.

The entire political psychology series as originally written without further editing is at zolatimes2.com. From there to to "WRITERS" Look under Robert L. Kocher in the list of writers. The articles are not listed in the order they were written. The series began with the American Mind in Denial which is listed at both sites.

RLK

36 posted on 10/11/2002 11:06:14 AM PDT by RLK
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