Skip to comments.
Washington Police Investigate Another Possible Sniper Attack
VOA ^
| 10/10/02
Posted on 10/10/2002 5:30:36 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
Police in the Washington, D.C. area say it is too early to say whether a fatal shooting in a western suburb is related to a recent series of sniper attacks that has left six people dead and two others critically wounded. Authorities say a man was shot and killed late Wednesday as he filled his car at a gasoline station in Manassas, Virginia. Forensic evidence is still being analyzed. The sniper attacks have been linked by ballistics evidence.
Reports say certain elements of the Manassas shooting bear a resemblance to the sniper shootings, which began around the Washington area last Wednesday. Like the man killed in Manassas, all of the sniper victims were shot once, seemingly at random as they performed everyday tasks. Two of the people killed last week also were gunned down at gasoline stations.
Meanwhile, authorities say they are searching for a white van seen driving away from the location of the Manassas shooting. Police have been searching for a white vehicle in connection with the shootings last week. News reports early Wednesday said police discovered what may be the first known communication from the killer: a card used in fortunetelling, said to have written on it a message telling police, "I am God."
The card, known as a Tarot card, reportedly was found, along with a spent shell casing, near a school in a Maryland suburb where a sniper attack Monday left a 13-year-old boy critically wounded.
Police officials say they did not authorize information about the card to be released to the media and refused to comment further on the matter or other details of the investigation. Federal authorities are assisting in the investigation.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; maryland; shootings; sniper; virginia
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-50, 51-100, 101-103 next last
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
STOP THE LEFTISTS
Get On Board and sink the Rats. Donate by secure server. Mail checks to: Free Republic, LLC PO Box 9771 Fresno, CA 93794 |
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
IMHO, the tarot card is a red herring. Here's my theory. I think this guy is a non-muslim (ex-spetsnaz or ex-military from the Yugoslavian civuil war) assassin paid by the muslims to promote terror.
I hope this doesn't put me in the tin foil category.
3
posted on
10/10/2002 6:26:40 AM PDT
by
MattinNJ
To: Route66; Peach; Bella; Pete; areafiftyone; brigette; harpseal; Merovingian; Miss Marple; ...
Maryland watch ping
If anyone has time today and is so inclined, you can listen to the Prince George County or Montgomery County Fire and Rescue Dispatches on the internet at http://www.sconfire.com/livedispatch.htm. The links are on the right side about halfway down.
I will try to be tuning in through out the day as well.
203 posted on 10/9/02 10:19 AM Central by Pete
With thanks to " ET(end tyranny) " for help in compiling these..
'I AM GOD' Maryland Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary (10-10-02)
BREAKING: One more shooting in DC area Maryland Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary (10-09-02)First Major Clue in Sniper AttacksWoman Is Detained in Sniper HuntTimeline of DC-area shootingsThe DC Sniper Nest: None Dare Call it TerrorismWashington sniper leaves taunting message on Tarot card First Major Clue in Sniper AttacksI did a google search "Tarot cards Islam" and found some very interesting resultsPresident's bodyguards join hunt for sniper Washington sniper leaves taunting message on Tarot card Report: Sniper Left Tarot Card, Message for Police at Last Shooting>
Solve the Sniper Case and get $250,000 (Satellite Map to help you out) The DC Sniper Nest: None Dare Call it TerrorismRush's fill-in says Sniper(s) is(are) Hispanic or similar... 13 Year Old Boy Shot Outside Bowie, Md. Middle School, Not Known if Sniper RelatedThis Killer Doesn't Fit the Expected Profile Maryland Sniper Shootings Update ThreadSchoolboy targeted by sniperMath Used in Hunt for Md. Sniper Police Won't Confirm Missing Man Has Shooting Connections (Have YOU seen this man?) Breaking- MD/DC Spree Killer Lookout Update"Profilers: Montgomery County Shooters are Likely From Area"Fox Cable News is reporting another shooting in D.C. areaAshleigh Banfield, Feminist Icon: "Couldn't DC Sniper Be A Woman?"Sniper kills for the thrill: 8th attack leaves teen near deathPolice call in reinforcements in U.S. sniper hunt Boy, 13, Wounded in Eighth Attack Linked to Sniper CSGV Statement on Sniper Shootings in DC Metropolitan Area In the Age of Terror, a Sniper Brings Danger Close to Home Again Md. Shooting Linked to Sniper Spree PROFILE HINTS WHERE MD. SNIPER WILL STRIKE NEXT D.C. on Alert As Sniper Roams FreeSixth death linked to sniper - Police want to talk to N.C. ex-resident [Robert Gene Baker - photo]Another DC-area sniper-style shootingPolice Confirm shooting at Michael'sFBI: Maryland shootings fit no categoryMD shooting update: Shell found in VA is a .223 caliber, shooting in DC now linked too Two Hispanics Sought In DC Area KillingsEvidence links Monday's shooting to SpreeThe DC Sniper Nest: None Dare call it TerrorismMedia Police Fudge Gun Facts in Sniper ShootingsWhite racist (Robert Gene Baker III) hunted after sniper attacks in Maryland

THE TIMELINE:
-- 5:20 p.m. Wednesday, Oct. 2: Windows shot at Maryland craft store. No one hurt.
-- 6:04 p.m. Wednesday: James D. Martin, 55, of Silver Spring, Md., killed in Maryland grocery store parking lot.
-- 7:41 a.m. Thursday, Oct. 3: James L. "Sonny" Buchanan, 39, of Arlington, Va., killed while cutting grass at Maryland auto dealership.
-- 8:12 a.m. Thursday: Taxi driver Prem Kumar Walekar, 54, of Olney, Md., killed at Maryland gas station.
-- 8:37 a.m. Thursday: Sarah Ramos, 34, of Silver Spring, Md., killed outside Maryland post office.
-- 9:58 a.m. Thursday: Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera, 25, of Silver Spring, Md., killed as she vacuumed her van at Maryland gas station.
-- 9:15 p.m. Thursday: Pascal Charlot, 72, of Washington, D.C, killed while standing on a street in the nation's capital.
-- 2:30 p.m. Friday, Oct. 4: 43-year-old woman wounded in craft store parking lot in Fredericksburg, Va.
-- 8:09 a.m. Monday, Oct. 7: 13-year-old boy wounded as he is dropped off at Bowie, Md., school.
152 posted on 10/9/02 1:25 AM Central by brigette
About 5:20 pm Wednesday: window shot out at Michael's store in Northgate Shopping Center. no one injured.
About 6 pm Wednesday:Jim Martin, 55 year old White male shot at Shoppers Food Warehouse parking lot in 2200 block of Randolph Road (Glenmont Shopping Center). a program coordinator with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, a top notch professional and history buff with a unique sense of humor. Martin spearheaded the office adoption of a DC elementary school.
7:41 am Thursday: James L. Buchanan, a 39-year-old white male landscaper . Man shot while mowing a lawn at 11411 Rockville Pike (White Flint near intersection with Nicholson Lane (in front of Bryant Automobile?). Buchanan was identified as the son of a retired Montgomery County police officer.
8:10 am Thursday: Premkumar Walekar, 54, Indian from India was shot dead as he made his daily stop at a Silver Spring Mobil gas station. The cab driver from India leaves behind a wife, a daughter, and a son. Male cab driver shot while filling up at a Mobil station at the intersection of Aspen Hill Road and Connecticut Avenue. This guy worked for presidential cab.
8:37 am Thursday: Sarah Ramos, 34, of Silver Spring , Hispanic woman shot in head sitting on bench outside of the United States Post Office next to the Leisure World Retirement community in Silver Spring (on Rossmoor Road).a witness reported seeing a white van or truck speed from the post office parking lot.
9:58 am Thursday:Lori Lewis Rivera-- 25-year-old Lori Lewis Rivera white female who was gunned down while vacuuming her minivan at a gas station in Kensington Thursday morning. Woman shot in head at the Shell gas station at the intersection of Connecticut Ave and Knowles in Kensington.
9:15 pm Thursday: Pascal Charlot, 72, african american of Washington, DC, killed while standing on a street in the nation's capital. In Northwest Washington, The 72-year-old Northwest man was standing on Georgia Avenue just inside the distrcit line when he was struck by a sniper's bullet.
Michael's craft store-- On Friday afternoon, a 43-year-old woman (race unknown?) who had been loading purchases from a Michaels craft store in Fredericksburg, Virginia, was hit by a bullet that pierced her lower back, exited her chest and came to rest inside her Toyota minivan. She was in stable condition Sunday in a Fairfax hospital.
Tasker Middle school At 8:09 a.m. Monday, a 13-year-old boy (race unknown)was shot and critically wounded outside a middle school in Maryland's Prince George's County.
165 posted on 10/9/02 1:47 AM Central by Bella

Timeline on Sniper Shootings in Maryland, Virginia, Washington, D.C.
The Associated Press
Published: Oct 10, 2002
Details on shootings in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C.
- 5:20 p.m. Oct. 2: Windows shot at craft store in the unincorporated Aspen Hill area of Montgomery County, Md. No one hurt.
1. - 6:04 p.m. Oct. 2: James D. Martin, 55, of Silver Spring, Md., killed in grocery store parking lot in Wheaton, Md. (Montgomery County)
2. - 7:41 a.m. Oct. 3: James L. "Sonny" Buchanan, 39, of Arlington, Va., killed while cutting grass auto dealership in unincorporated White Flint area. (Montgomery County)
3. - 8:12 a.m. Oct. 3: Taxi driver Prem Kumar Walekar, 54, of Olney, Md., killed at gas station in Rockville, Md. (Montgomery County)
4. - 8:37 a.m. Oct. 3: Sarah Ramos, 34, of Silver Spring, killed outside post office in Silver Spring. (Montgomery County)
5. - 9:58 a.m. Oct. 3: Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera, 25, of Silver Spring, slain as she vacuumed her van at a gas station in Kensington, Md. (Montgomery County)
6. - 9:15 p.m. Oct. 3: Pascal Charlot, 72, of Washington, D.C., killed while standing on a Washington street.
7. - 2:30 p.m. Friday: 43-year-old woman wounded in craft store parking lot in Fredericksburg, Va.
8. - 8:09 a.m. Monday: 13-year-old boy wounded as he is dropped off at school in Bowie, Md. (Prince George's County)
9. - 8:15 p.m. Wednesday: Man killed after paying for gas at a station in Manassas, Va. Possible link to previous shootings under investigation.
AP-ES-10-10-02 0841EDT
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
In the NY Post today said that there may be a Vietnam link.
Here is what they said:
Vietnam vets say snipers who led U.S. search-and-destroy missions were said to be "taking God's view" when they took up positions in high ground - which makes the God reference in the killer's taunting note doubly suspicious.
During the Vietnam War, some soldiers put death cards in the mouths of the slain enemy; others nailed the cards to the foreheads, and still others dropped them from the air.
Retired Lt. Col. Michael Lee who wrote a history of snipers in Vietnam said many of them used the ace of spades as a calling card because the Vietnamese considered it a death card.
Another theory that is being thrown around today is that if there are two people involved it might be that they are having a contest between them as to who can shoot better. Its Sickening if that is the case.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Has anyone seen Lou Horichi recently?
t
7
posted on
10/10/2002 6:33:10 AM PDT
by
P7M13
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
On one long thread, which I wasn't going to wade through, Fox was apparently reporting it was a shotgun. From the sounds of it, that theory has gone away -- at least, it doesn't seem to be mentioned anymore.
What's the latest on that?
8
posted on
10/10/2002 6:35:26 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: P7M13
Lon Horiuchi
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
This guy likes gas stations. Strategic reasons or political ? It does offer a number of strategic advantages because the target will be still while pumping gas.
FWIW, I think I'll pump my gas with my head lower than the car. They should at least bring back the locks that allow you to leave the pump. This should be done immediately in that area.
To: areafiftyone
Ollie North shot down the Vietnam Vet thing, saying that it would be pretty difficult for an aged V Vet to pull off such precise shooting.
If the two-mkan theory is true, I like the theory that it may be two men in competition with each other to see who is the better shot. A sick and twisted game of one upmanship.
11
posted on
10/10/2002 6:58:04 AM PDT
by
rintense
To: VRWC_minion
All of the locations - except maybe the school, not familiar with that area - are on major access roads. Big 4 lanes with tons of traffic.
Easy in and out, lots of covering noise and background to blend into.
Get your gas off the beaten path.
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I'm not sure if I have the shooting times exactly right but here are the prayer times for that local area. For Oct 1 - Oct-8. There does not APPEAR to be any shootings closer than 45 minutes to one of the prayer times. Sorry for the bad formatting.
Day Date Fajr Sunrise Dhuhr Asr Maghrib Isha
Tue 1 5:51 7:02 12:57 4:16 6:50 8:03
Wed 2 5:52 7:03 12:57 4:15 6:49 8:02 - SHOOTINGS-*5:20PM-*6:04PM
Thu 3 5:53 7:04 12:56 4:14 6:47 8:00 -SHOOTINGS- *7:41 AM-*8:21 AM-*9:58 AM-*9:15 PM
Fri 4 5:54 7:05 12:56 4:13 6:46 7:58 -SHOOTING-*2:30 PM
Sat 5 5:55 7:06 12:56 4:12 6:44 7:57
Sun 6 5:56 7:07 12:56 4:11 6:42 7:55
Mon 7 5:57 7:08 12:55 4:09 6:41 7:54 -SHOOTING-*8:09 AM
Tue 8 5:58 7:09 12:55 4:08 6:39 7:52
To: rintense
Could be. The competition theory would make them younger in their 20's or early thirties. Hear the tarot people are up in arms because that card that they used does not mean death. It means transition or movement. Apprently these guys are immature cowardly punks who haven't even done their homework and are playing stupid games with the police. They are on this major power trip and the police should not fall into their traps which I think Moose is doing already by getting upset about the tarot card.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
A young woman in our office has family living in that immediate area.
Her parents were in the Lowes store across the street from the gas station last night when the attack occurred.
They came out of Lowes to see several helicopters, and scores of police vehicles converging on the site.
They are both fine, and it now appears there is no limit to the police response when this happens.
15
posted on
10/10/2002 7:12:39 AM PDT
by
TC Rider
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
It would improve thread loading speeds considerably if you posted a link to you most recent compendium of threads and info rather than copying it on every related thread. Thanks.
16
posted on
10/10/2002 7:16:43 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I think it's *great* that you took the time and posted the compendium of information here. As someone who lives in the DC area, I think it's an important context for a discussion on any thread. So thank you very much!
To: FreeTheHostages; ~Kim4VRWC's~
I agree....the info is pertinent and it's easy to find when needing it while reading the thread.
18
posted on
10/10/2002 7:31:29 AM PDT
by
GummyIII
To: MattinNJ
IMHO, the tarot card is a red herringI have been hearing the reports that there was something else written on the card that they have not released to the public. Yesterday I had a theory that the President's life was threatened and that was why his bodyguards were helping look for the killer. What do you think of that theory?
It doesn't put you in the TinFoil crowd at all.
19
posted on
10/10/2002 7:38:05 AM PDT
by
Mixer
To: bvw
The pics that are taking time to load, are not the maps..
To: r9etb
The shotgun was a reference to an earlier incident yesterday in which a window was shot out by buckshot NEAR where this gas station shooting occurred. I saw the talk on the thread last night too. They simply misunderstood the reports. A shotgun was never mentioned in relation to this gas station shooting.
To: VRWC_minion
This guy likes gas stations. Strategic reasons or political ? It does offer a number of strategic advantages because the target will be still while pumping gas. According to reports I heard on the radio, this victim had just paid for his gas and was returning to his car.
To: GummyIII; FreeTheHostages
I'm glad you guys think it's helpeful. Someone suggested it yesterday,and it did sounded like a good idea. There are so many threads being posted it's hard to keep track of all of them.
To: Mixer
Apparently the shooter (or whoever wrote on the tarot card) also wrote that he didn't want the card made public information (reported by Washington Post this morning.)
To: VRWC_minion
Good question. Don't forget michael's craft stores.
You don't have the gas pump locks in your area? Do you mean the little latch that allows the handle to continue pumping the gas without you having to hold it? We still have those here if that's what you mean.
To: blaster88
I have another idea for those who live near the area: gas up during 10 am to 5 pm hours. This guy has a job and can't risk being missed from it. He has never shot during 10-5. Makes me wonder if he works retail because they don't open until 10 am.
26
posted on
10/10/2002 7:53:51 AM PDT
by
Yaelle
To: isthisnickcool
Interesting angle..I've not seen anyone mention that before.
Formatting's not bad....that would be hard to format anyway..
I would assume the time of the shootings..are not exact..they could be off a minute or two right?
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
28
posted on
10/10/2002 8:05:38 AM PDT
by
wonders
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Just heard on WMAL: police investigating shooting in S.E. D.C. on Southern Ave., near Prince George's County line. Fact that it's near a jurisdictional border is consistent with some of the sniper's shootings (Georgia Ave. last Thursday evening, possible at Hillandale liquor store,) but so far the sniper hasn't operated in a neighborhood as bad as this one, which has plenty of its own, un-sniper-related shootings.
To: Yaelle
Fredericksburg shooting was 2 PM.
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I suppose the times could be off by several minutes but the shootings do not
SEEM to be near the prayer times.
See here for the site that constructs the prayer times schedule.
For those wishing to announce their conversion to Islam see here.
If you do convert you can wear this neat hat:

If you do convert and become confused and need your Islamic questions answered just go here. The "Ask The Imam*" site.
*The "Ask the Imam" site is not a parody or spoof. It's the real deal. Check it out. And get answers to your important questions like: Why is there a difference of opinion in Ulema in considering Jihad as farz-e-aein or farz-e-kifaya these days?
To: isthisnickcool
Cool hat!
Do they get to wear it while beating their four wives and loving their goats.
Never mind, I'll ask the Imam man.
Eat Pigs!
Dead Dog
32
posted on
10/10/2002 8:23:31 AM PDT
by
Dead Dog
To: blaster88
School VERY close to US Rtes 50 and 301...shootings in Silver Spring were in congested area not really near a major highway (495/95 is near, but not that near).
33
posted on
10/10/2002 8:26:08 AM PDT
by
katmom
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You don't have the gas pump locks in your area? No, the self serve places remove them in CT. I don't know if its a business thing to avoid over pumping or state law.
To: aristeides
Didn't hear about shooting but just heard on WBIG 100.3 that Suitland Parkway is closed at Suitland Road for "unidentified police activity" which is consistent with the area you mention.
35
posted on
10/10/2002 8:27:56 AM PDT
by
katmom
To: VRWC_minion
Oh my gosh... and the shooter has to know that!
To: flamefront
Seriously, though, the sniper has pulled off some amazing performances: He has consistently been able to set up and take a shot in a crowded commercial area and get away. Surely someone has called up Horiuchi and asked: "Hey Lon, just a hypothetical, if you went hunting for innocent civilians in commercial strips, how would you do it? Not under color of authority, of course, so you would actually have to get away."
Just the fact the sniper has repeatedly done this means that a useful profile of his probable methods can be deduced by experts - and should have been by now. It isn't showing competence or inteligence that this keeps happening.
37
posted on
10/10/2002 8:32:42 AM PDT
by
eno_
To: isthisnickcool
LOL I'm bookmarking your post to read for later.. :)
To: aristeides
A new one aristeides? Oh Lord, please stop this guy..
To: katmom
Hillandale liquor story right next to New Hampshire Ave. entrance to Beltway. Manassas Sunoco station right next to entrance to I-66. Bowie school right next to Rte. 50. How close to I-95 was the Fredericksburg Michaels?
To: wonders
Golly who is in charge of the maps at CNN? :-p Thanks for pointing out that error.
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Considering the neighborhood, I strongly suspect this shooting is unrelated. The sniper wants to survive, which argues against even entering that neighborhood, never mind opening fire there.
To: Mixer
Yesterday I had a theory that the President's life was threatened and that was why his bodyguards were helping look for the killer. What do you think of that theory?While I think someone could get to Bush if they wanted too, I don't think that's the case here. This guy does not want to get caught, contrary to the babble you hear from the profilers on the news channels. Let's take a look at what we know
1) Capability. The guy is a decent shot which points to a military background. While many Freepers have pointed out that any halfway decent hunter could make that shot, they forget that this guy is shooting children. It's 2 different things to hit a deer and to pull the trigger when a child is in the scope.
2)Motive. This guy is not a psycho. He's not throwing 6 or 7 shots into his victims which would indicate rage. He is one shot, one kill all the way. Plus psychos tend to leave clues or establish a pattern. His only motive can be to promote terror and paralyze the area surrounding the nations capital. That would point directly to the Muslims. I don't think it's a home grown "right wing NRA whacko". I think they would have a definite pattern of hitting immigrants, minorities, law enforcement officials,or liberals.
3) Who. I don't think it is a Muslim. While spectacular when it comes to blowing themselves up, they lack the requisite skill to be so methodical on a consistent basis. This guy comes in, sets up the shot, takes it, hits the target, and escapes into thin air, time after time despite the manhunt. He has to be ex-military.
This brings me to my conclusion that it is someone with extensive military training (the marksmanship and the planning) who has done this before (to shoot a child in cold blood is horrific). The conflict in the former Yugoslavia had a number of sniper teams that would target the other sides women and children. That's where I would start to look. I would also check with private firms that specialize in protecting executives overseas to see who the top assassins in the world are. This guy is getting paid very well to do this.
43
posted on
10/10/2002 8:41:17 AM PDT
by
MattinNJ
To: aristeides
New Hampshire Avenue is a congested road but is close to 495...the other ones, the multiple ones in Silver Spring, are in a congested area. You could almost fall of of 95 to get to Michaels.
44
posted on
10/10/2002 8:43:43 AM PDT
by
katmom
To: aristeides
Apparently the shooter (or whoever wrote on the tarot card) also wrote that he didn't want the card made public informationThanks for the update. Do you have any opinions on my theory that the President's life may have been threatened, or is it common for the President's bodyguards to help out with these types of seaches?
45
posted on
10/10/2002 8:44:07 AM PDT
by
Mixer
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Gas Stations? Maybe he's looking for Navin Johnson. "The Cans! He hates these cans!!!"
46
posted on
10/10/2002 8:44:10 AM PDT
by
Spiff
To: aristeides
Aint' that the truth!
47
posted on
10/10/2002 8:45:05 AM PDT
by
katmom
To: aristeides
How close to I-95 was the Fredericksburg Michaels?Almost next to it. Certainly less than a quarter of a mile.
To: rintense
Ollie North shot down the Vietnam Vet thing, saying that it would be pretty difficult for an aged V Vet to pull off such precise shooting.I respect Col. North, but he's way off here. I am the age of many early Viet Vets and I still shoot long-range varmit shots well beyond what's being done in these terror shootings. Age is not a measure of shooting skills involved in this situation. Experience, savvy and knowledge are far more important.
49
posted on
10/10/2002 8:48:36 AM PDT
by
toddst
To: Spiff
I believe that's Navin R. Johnson...Random son of a bitc*. LOL I was thinking that last night. Hope they nail the nutbar soon.
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-50, 51-100, 101-103 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson