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High School Eliminates Textbooks For Computers: Charter School First In Nation To Eliminate Books
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Posted on 10/10/2002 9:23:39 PM PDT by chance33_98


High School Eliminates Textbooks For Computers
Charter School First In Nation To Eliminate Books

POSTED: 3:41 p.m. PDT October 10, 2002

SAN DIEGO -- Students at a new charter high school in Ramona are pioneers in education.

Instead of lugging heavy textbooks to class, they are among the first in the nation to rely solely on computers for their lessons.

The textbook elimination comes as growing back pain complaints prompted the California legislature to pass a law limiting how much school books can weigh.

Officials at the small charter school outside San Diego took the matter one step further and used the money normally spent on books to buy computers.

They say the move will not only alleviate back problems, it will also give students access to state-of-the-art online educational tools including online sites and CD-ROMs.

Using the computers, students can print out assignments to take home. And if the homework requires a computer, they can use the schools' machines after school.

School director David Tarr says the new system is not the wave of the future. Instead, he says, "it's the wave of the present."


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: educationnews

1 posted on 10/10/2002 9:23:39 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Great. Now if we can start eliminating teachers for computers, we'll be getting somewhere.
2 posted on 10/10/2002 9:28:13 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Maybe we can get them to use FR as one of their educational materials.
3 posted on 10/10/2002 9:29:15 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
I don't think the quality of computer displays is adequate. Does any research exist about the effects on children of reading from monitors?
4 posted on 10/10/2002 9:31:20 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: chance33_98
This is a hoax... ...right?
5 posted on 10/10/2002 9:33:23 PM PDT by RLK
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To: chance33_98
Instead of lugging heavy textbooks to class, they are among the first in the nation to rely solely on computers for their lessons.

The textbook elimination comes as growing back pain complaints prompted the California legislature to pass a law limiting how much school books can weigh.

Did it ever occur to these mental giants to buy two sets of books -- one for school and the other for home?

6 posted on 10/10/2002 9:35:32 PM PDT by mpoulin
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To: mpoulin
They can't keep the books at school. They don't have lockers anymore because kids were hiding drugs or guns in them.
7 posted on 10/10/2002 9:37:12 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: mpoulin; RLK
I post an article a few days back about Davis signing legislation regulating kids' back backs and how much weight they could carry, etc...
8 posted on 10/10/2002 9:38:56 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: KingKongCobra
They can't keep the books at school. They don't have lockers anymore because kids were hiding drugs or guns in them.

If these school administrators had any brains, they would go down to Wal-Mart, buy a $29 bookcase, and set it up in the classroom.

It ain't rocket science, folks :-)

9 posted on 10/10/2002 9:43:36 PM PDT by mpoulin
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To: Paleo Conservative
I am a homeschooling mother. Many of the people in our group use computer curriculum, such as Switched on Schoolhouse. Some children prefer it, but many don't. My boys would much rather use texts, although they are real computer junkies otherwise. Especially math they much prefer in a text. I don't think this is a good move at all.
10 posted on 10/10/2002 9:44:49 PM PDT by I still care
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To: chance33_98
The textbook elimination comes as growing back pain complaints prompted the California legislature to pass a law limiting how much school books can weigh.

Wonder what the enlightened legislature will do when these students complain about eye strain or repeatative stress injuries from using a mouse?

11 posted on 10/10/2002 9:44:52 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: I still care
Math would definately be better in text IMO, but otherwise it would be ok from my experience with internet classes.
12 posted on 10/10/2002 9:48:22 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: chance33_98
I post an article a few days back about Davis signing legislation regulating kids' back backs and how much weight they could carry, etc...

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Is there no sanity left in this nation? Now we need a department of back pack inspection and policing? I'm serious when I say it's no wonder we have an idiot in Maryland shooting people. It's as sane as anything else going on.

13 posted on 10/10/2002 9:54:55 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
New Law Will Lighten Student Backpack Loads (Gov. Davis to the rescue...)
14 posted on 10/10/2002 10:03:07 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Sounds like a good way to obscure class materials from pesky parents.
15 posted on 10/10/2002 10:50:08 PM PDT by InfraRed
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To: chance33_98
This can't be any worse than the liberal textbook lite that we have been seeing.
16 posted on 10/10/2002 10:52:33 PM PDT by Eva
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To: chance33_98
Keep the books in case of a magnetic pulse.
17 posted on 10/10/2002 10:54:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: RLK
Is there no sanity left in this nation? Now we need a department of back pack inspection and policing? I'm serious when I say it's no wonder we have an idiot in Maryland shooting people. It's as sane as anything else going on.

Maybe they ought to check the backpacks for sufficient weight, and instead of wimpy games with no winners during PE, the kids should do a 5 mile hike. Get them in shape, and probably cut down on the need for ritalin. They'll also have good stories to tell their grandkids...

"When I was your age, I used to hump a 25 lb pack two miles uphill to school, and four miles uphill home. In the winter. Snow three feet deep if it was an inch. Don't think we had snowshoes, oh no. Snowshoes were for wimps and sissies...."
18 posted on 10/11/2002 12:13:39 AM PDT by cryptical
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To: chance33_98
Two part answer

Part One
I've been earning my living as a computer guy for the last 13 years or so, and you would think I'd be all for computer-based schooling. Yet I still find serious studying using online computer courses difficult and/or annoying.

I much prefer studying with books, while using a pen and paper to take notes. Writing things down as you read them seems to reinforce the learning (at least for me).

I also find reading long articles on the web and scrolling a page at a time is very tiring and distracting.

Part Two
These little wimps need to GET SOME BACKBONE, not be relieved of their book-burdens. They NEED the friggin excercise of carrying books. If it's carrying books complaints now, it'll be G-Damn carpal-tunnel syndrome complaints in the headlines a few years down the road.

What is wrong with America these days ? ? ?

I'll tell you. It's the liberal EVERYONE'S A VICTIM syndrome.

I started playing varsity football as a 5'-10", 104 Lbs. high school freshman and finished 4 years later at 6'-0" and never more than 135 Lbs.(granted, I AM INSANE). I must have looked like a rag doll getting tossed around by a rabid dog most games, but absent broken bones, I kept getting up and kept playing (what a great game).

The point is, being physically tough and facing physical challenges was part of growing up. It never would've even OCCURRED to me to complain about carrying books.

Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. LOL

19 posted on 10/11/2002 12:44:00 AM PDT by JohnLoyRocker
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To: JohnLoyRocker
I prefer real books myself. I do read old, hard to find books that I download from project gutenburg on my computer but I am also working to get hard copies.

I find the computer great for some things while learning, like interactive simulations, etc. But there is something about holding a book in my hands that I like too much to give up totally.

20 posted on 10/11/2002 12:51:55 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: TxBec; 2Jedismom; EdReform; backhoe; Free the USA; hsmomx3; HiJinx
ping
21 posted on 10/11/2002 4:16:07 AM PDT by madfly
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To: chance33_98
1st the books. then the teachers, and finally the bricks and mortar.

Why would anyone send their most precious possession, their child to a victem disarmament zone, when with a computer, their child can have the very best teacher in every subject and all of the worlds libraries in an instant at the touch of a button.

Think about it. No travel time or expense. No out of home food expense. No keep up with the Jonses clothing expense.

The kid can learn in two hours more than he can learn all day in a government indoctrination center, without his butt and his mind being numbed.

If ever there was a collary to the 19th century blacksmith shop, it is the 20th centuries public school system.

The day is fast approaching when no one will show up at the school house door.

Then we need to get rid of the child labor laws, so we can buy the little people a lawn mower or a pressure washer and send him out to learn the pride of a job well done and the value of an honest dollar.
22 posted on 10/11/2002 4:32:45 AM PDT by BADJOE
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23 posted on 10/11/2002 8:33:57 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: chance33_98
Do kids still have semester and summer reading lists for each grade? Do they still read the classics?

Perhaps this belongs on the Library thread, where Hispanic books now occupy the most space, so it reads.

24 posted on 10/11/2002 11:38:23 AM PDT by madfly
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To: chance33_98
I don't know about anyone else, but for some reason I have a short attention span when reading articles on my computer. I wind up printing hard copies to read. If others are like this then we'll wind up using more paper/trees.

Maybe Earth First will start a literacy program and support the making of books. Talk about a quandary.
25 posted on 10/11/2002 11:44:59 AM PDT by AgentEcho
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