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***Finally The GOP Get It: The Economic Troubles Are Tied To Democrat Control Of The Senate***
Stardate: 0210.13

Posted on 10/13/2002 8:27:50 AM PDT by The Wizard

Lindsey Graham Finally pulled out the facts: it was the betrayal of Benedict Jeffords and the leadership of the Dasshole democrat criminal senate that has caused the economic flop we are in.....

Finally a member of the GOP pulled out the numbers and cited dates showing how they changed with the betrayal of benedict jeffords, (the turncoat senator) when he handed the senate over to the most biased, partisan, do nothing leadship the senate has ever experienced

Enemy of America thy name is Daschle


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1 posted on 10/13/2002 8:27:50 AM PDT by The Wizard
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To: The Wizard
Lindsey Graham Finally pulled out the facts:

Would you please tell where Lindsey said this? Enquiring minds want to know!

2 posted on 10/13/2002 8:29:52 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: The Wizard
I was listening and am suprised we don't hear this more. The next three weeks are going to be brutal and if the Dems intend to shout the bad economy every day I surely hope this is the GOP's ace in the hole.
3 posted on 10/13/2002 8:30:19 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: alisasny
indeed...
4 posted on 10/13/2002 8:31:54 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: The Wizard
Lindsay nailed it on this issue.
5 posted on 10/13/2002 8:34:38 AM PDT by Peach
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To: The Wizard
Its crunch time. Time to do your part to take back the Senate.

TakeBackCongress.org is a resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in 2002.

6 posted on 10/13/2002 8:35:56 AM PDT by ffrancone
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To: The Wizard
We know this...but do Joe & Suzy Sixpack?

This needs to be the leading weapon in the pre-election GOP strategy arsenal across the country. The story of unprecedented obstuctionist policies by the Dims!

7 posted on 10/13/2002 8:36:43 AM PDT by borisbob69
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To: The Wizard
President Bush promised us that his tax cuts for the rich would keep the economy flourishing.

Then Mr. Bush told us that the tax cuts for the rich were needed "to give the economy a second wind".

Methinks GWB cut his economic classes (if he had any) while in college.

BTW - the ONLY hope to turning this economy around is either significant war, ending immigration or rescinding the tax cut and giving a SIGNIFICANT tax cut to the middle class ($30,000 - $200,000).

8 posted on 10/13/2002 8:40:45 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: The Wizard

9 posted on 10/13/2002 8:44:35 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Tuco-bad
This post parrots the democrat line. It isn't even worth responding to....
10 posted on 10/13/2002 8:44:58 AM PDT by sofaman
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To: Davis
BUMP! Go Graham! Why don't the GOPers use this more? Someone should insist the RNC take this line and run with it!
14 posted on 10/13/2002 8:48:26 AM PDT by jmstein7
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To: Tuco-bad
Uh, $200,000 is middle class, Tuc??
15 posted on 10/13/2002 8:49:40 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: sofaman
This post parrots the democrat line. It isn't even worth responding to....

So why do you respond?

16 posted on 10/13/2002 8:54:02 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: jimtorr
Would you please tell where Lindsey said this? Enquiring minds want to know!

Meet the Press. He made a slam dunk.

17 posted on 10/13/2002 8:54:25 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: Sawool
Back in early spring, I remember Tommy D. stating "the economic stimulus package wasn't needed...the package was another tax-break for the wealthy".

Well of course a tax stimulus is needed, but not for the wealthy.

A tax-break for the middle clss is needed.

18 posted on 10/13/2002 8:56:07 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
"President Bush promised us that his tax cuts for the rich would keep the economy flourishing.Then Mr. Bush told us that the tax cuts for the rich were needed "to give the economy a second wind".

The GDP was -1% when he took office, it's avg. 3.8% this year.

Me thinks GWB cut his economic classes (if he had any)while in college.

Bush has degrees from Harvard and Yale, yourself? You might want to hold off on your me thinking, your not very good at it.

19 posted on 10/13/2002 8:56:43 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: The Wizard
Benedict Jeffords

Brace yourself. Lincoln Chaffee is about to follow in his footsteps.

20 posted on 10/13/2002 8:56:44 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper
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To: mewzilla
Uh, $200,000 is middle class, Tuc??

Yep.

I guess you earn around $40,000 per year and think of yourself as rich.

Oh well - as long as you are content.

21 posted on 10/13/2002 8:57:35 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: T. Jefferson
Bush has degrees from Harvard and Yale, yourself?

I'm more educated than that.

BTW - ever wonder how Bush got into Yale/Harvard?

22 posted on 10/13/2002 8:59:08 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: jmstein7
....Why don't the GOPers use this more...

Because they are patient and have waited till the last days before the election to plant the seed, see the first growth and the Jack in the Beanstalk super growth in the final days before election.

They want Jack to spend some time looking at the vine before finding an ax to hack with. He can only hack, he can't chop it down.

23 posted on 10/13/2002 8:59:37 AM PDT by bert
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To: Tuco-bad
Beccause stupidity needs to be rebuked.
24 posted on 10/13/2002 9:00:59 AM PDT by cksharks
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To: Tuco-bad
Methinks GWB cut his economic classes (if he had any) while in college

Me thinks you were so busy being indoctrinated you failed to be educated.

GWB has an MBA and is a superb businessman. He is not a Rat Union thug whose training only includes how to lead a riot against wage payers.

25 posted on 10/13/2002 9:02:49 AM PDT by bert
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To: Tuco-bad
BTW - the ONLY hope to turning this economy around is either significant war, ending immigration or rescinding the tax cut and giving a SIGNIFICANT tax cut to the middle class ($30,000 - $200,000).

You're close. But let's make that a tax cut for everybody. Rich and poor...and the middle class.

In other words, exactly what "the Bush tax cut" was to start with. Let's accelerate it. And make it permanent.

26 posted on 10/13/2002 9:13:23 AM PDT by okie01
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To: The Wizard
Lindsey Graham Finally pulled out the facts: it was the betrayal of Benedict Jeffords and the leadership of the Dasshole democrat criminal senate that has caused the economic flop we are in.....

We're in an economic flop? The president keeps telling us the economy is fine.

27 posted on 10/13/2002 9:13:24 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Tuco-bad
Just out of curiosity, did you make up that particular criterion yourself, or did you see it somewhere? Who/what defines having a household income between 30 and 200 grand as middle class?
28 posted on 10/13/2002 9:20:15 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Tuco-bad
". . . giving a SIGNIFICANT tax cut to the middle class ($30,000 - $200,000)."

That's your opinion, not a fact, so defend it!

29 posted on 10/13/2002 9:20:48 AM PDT by bcoffey
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To: Tuco-bad
the sad fact is, if I am single and make $38,000 , I AM one of the "rich"...democrats are all for the "middle class" as long as the middle class is at poverty level.
30 posted on 10/13/2002 9:23:29 AM PDT by Bobber58
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To: Moonman62
*We're in an economic flop? The president keeps telling us the economy is fine.

The economy is a disaster waiting to happen. No "if's" but "when". IMO in the next 3 - 4 months max most likely within 2 months.
31 posted on 10/13/2002 9:26:57 AM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: bcoffey; All
From Tuco's FR profile page, he gives the ultimate description of himself:

I am the most conservative member in the Free Republic. Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. - aka "The Rat"

See - he even calls himself a RAT. Just as we thought. (Although a Mexican living in Munich sounds like an odd candidate to be "the most conservative member of Free Republic". To me that's like Saddam saying he's the Pope.)

33 posted on 10/13/2002 9:36:22 AM PDT by 11B3
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To: Tuco-bad
BTW - ever wonder how Bush got into Yale/Harvard?

Duh... lemme think for a minute...

34 posted on 10/13/2002 9:38:40 AM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: jwh_Denver
The economy is a disaster waiting to happen. No "if's" but "when". IMO in the next 3 - 4 months max most likely within 2 months.

Medicare goes cash flow negative in 2008... Social Security goes cash flow negative in 2012 (just in time for the Boomers).

We have gone from the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation in less than a generation.

The Federal Reserve prints money at its convenience, and the currency is linked to nothing (therefore it is a promissory note secured by the full faith, etc., that means us).

Government continues to grow and continues to drain the resources of the private sector.

The one year "surplus" has in reality become a huge multi-year deficit (don't care why, folks, that's just the truth).

There are in excess of 12 trillion in unfunded future entitlements out there.

And now we're going to throw up to 200 billion (and when did those figures ever come in low) at a middle east war.

Now suppose that one of the unintended consequences of that war (and there are ALWAYS unintended consequences) is that oil goes to ... mmmm... $60 a barrel.

Yep, the economy is sure in good shape.

35 posted on 10/13/2002 9:48:25 AM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: okie01
You're close. But let's make that a tax cut for everybody. Rich and poor...and the middle class.

My tax-cut proposal benefits the wealthy also since it significantly reduces taxes for all income earned in the 30k - 200k range.

36 posted on 10/13/2002 9:50:25 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: mewzilla
Just out of curiosity, did you make up that particular criterion yourself, or did you see it somewhere? Who/what defines having a household income between 30 and 200 grand as middle class?

Middle class is open to one's own interpretation, there is no one definition.

37 posted on 10/13/2002 9:52:40 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Bobber58
the sad fact is, if I am single and make $38,000 , I AM one of the "rich"...

No you are LOWER middle class by most definitions.

38 posted on 10/13/2002 9:54:22 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Boy, I'll bet all those eggheads who got their degrees in economics will be happy to hear that.
39 posted on 10/13/2002 9:55:55 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: 11B3
Although a Mexican living in Munich sounds like an odd candidate to be "the most conservative member of Free Republic".

Who ever said I live in Munich?

BTW - I am aka "the Rat" not a DemoRAT.

40 posted on 10/13/2002 9:56:55 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
I graduated from Brown U. (and had to deal with the same left-wing garbage you're spewing, fighting the good fight against it for four fun-filled years). But, I didn't need to graduate from an Ivy League school to know that the Democrats are the party of the powerhungry and the Republicans are the party of the people. Democrats aren't concerned with making America better. . . they are concerned with consolidating power in themselves; just look at the federalization of airline security employees. It did nothing except create more voters who are dependent on the federal government for their economic well-being -- read "more Democratic voters". They don't want to give tax cuts to even the "middle class" voters you describe unless they have to -- every dollar they give back to the people is one less dollar they have to buy votes with.

Republicans are clearly better for the economy. In the first two years of Clinton, the economy sank deepeer into recession. Only once the Republicans took control (efectively) in 1995 did the economy turn around. Of course, slick claimed credit for it. When the Democrats took control of the Senate lat year, the economy recovery faltered. Truth be told, they WANTED it that way so they could blame Bush and use it as an election issue this year. That's why they havemade every effort to block economic stimulus. They don't care about the economy, the people, or the country. . . Democrats care only about POWER.
41 posted on 10/13/2002 10:05:54 AM PDT by jmstein7
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To: Tuco-bad
Hey tuco, who is the democrats gonna run in 04? Any ideas or guesses at this time?
42 posted on 10/13/2002 10:13:07 AM PDT by deport
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To: jimtorr
Meet The Depressed
43 posted on 10/13/2002 10:27:26 AM PDT by The Wizard
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To: Moonman62
my correction, "perceived" flop
44 posted on 10/13/2002 10:29:59 AM PDT by The Wizard
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To: deport
In the first two years of Clinton, the economy sank deepeer into recession

Not true, we were out of a recession prior to the 1992 election.

By your lack of knowlege, it seems you got into Brown the same way GWB got into Yale/Harvard.

But then again that's how the majority of students get into the Ivy League schools.

45 posted on 10/13/2002 10:34:34 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: deport
No clue!

Hopefully not Gore, even I could beat Gore.

46 posted on 10/13/2002 10:36:08 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: The Wizard
Daschle has on his desk eight or nine bills that would help the economy. If he would bring them to the floor for a vote.He has chosen to try and kill all of house and bushes plans.Imho daschle is a rat of the worse kind.
47 posted on 10/13/2002 10:39:43 AM PDT by solo gringo
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To: Beenliedto
I'm trying understand more about economics, you wrote "The one year "surplus" has in reality become a huge multi-year deficit (don't care why, folks, that's just the truth)."

Can you please define "surplus" and "deficit" as used in you post? How did you calculate the surplus and conclude that the deficit would be for multiple years? Could you provide sources that I could check out.

Thanks in advance.


48 posted on 10/13/2002 10:51:15 AM PDT by MattMa
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To: MattMa
I'm trying understand more about economics,

No you're not; you're attempting to bait me.

Thanks, anyway.

49 posted on 10/13/2002 11:19:33 AM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: The Wizard
I've been saying it for months about time some dump politican picked it up
50 posted on 10/13/2002 11:23:01 AM PDT by linn37
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