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Explosive 'could have come from Indon military' (Bali attack)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | October 15 2002

Posted on 10/15/2002 4:04:03 AM PDT by Dundee

Explosive 'could have come from Indon military'

The explosive used in the Bali bombing could have come from the Indonesian military, a leading defence expert said today.

Australian Defence Association executive director Michael O'Connor said there were factions within the Indonesian army which could have supplied the explosive C4 to terrorist groups.

Indonesia's intelligence chief Hedropriyono said today C4 had been used in one of the bombs used in the Bali attack. "Yes, one of them (bombs) is of C4," he told AFP during a visit to a local hospital. "That information has not been released formally," he added.

Mr O'Connor said C4 was a stable and easily transportable explosive that was extremely powerful.

He said it was unlikely to have been used by poorly organised groups.

Mr O'Connor said the Laskar Jihad group was in a position to get C4 from elements within the Indonesian army.

"There are elements in the army who would have access to C4 and would be prepared to supply it to an organisation like Laskar Jihad," he told AAP.

"It's pretty clear that the Indonesian military would have access to C4.

"There are factions in the army that support Laskar Jihad's plans to turn Indonesia into a strict Muslim state."

Mr O'Connor said the use of C4 meant the attack could also have been carried out by al-Qaeda supporters.

He said the attack may have been an attempt to both directly attack Westerners, target the Hindu population of Bali and also to bring down the Indonesian government.

"This could very well have been a three for the price of one attack," he said.

AAP


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If the Indon army had a part in this, then this just got really, REALLY bad.
1 posted on 10/15/2002 4:04:03 AM PDT by Dundee
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To: Dundee
Pretty frightening thought....though I must say, I wouldn't be totally surprised by it.
2 posted on 10/15/2002 4:22:36 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's difficult to kill 200 people, even with two bombs (which some reports suggest), unless you have a serious quantity of real high explosive. Whether it came from the local military or not, there is a supply chain behind this attack.
3 posted on 10/15/2002 5:49:53 AM PDT by eno_
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To: Dundee
If the Indon army had a part in this, then this just got really, REALLY bad.

True, but there might be some positive unintended consequences. One of the bigget problems in our current war is that we don't have a 'traditional' opponent, a nation's military. As a result, we have many people who are adamantly against war because of the difficulty of sorting civilians from guerilla combatants, as in VietNam. (Of course, many of THAT group oppose war as a matter of course, but the have many of the soccer moms on thier side right now.) If we now have a clear and legitimate military opponent, this desperately needed war can finally get kicked into high gear.

Gee, ya think I might be a Hawk on this one? ;^)

4 posted on 10/15/2002 5:55:45 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Dundee
Indon army as tied to the Islam terrorists as the Pakis. Another corrupt government -- wait until the Aussies get pissed.
5 posted on 10/15/2002 6:45:23 AM PDT by jrlc
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To: Dundee
Hm, wonder if this is why the Indonesian president has been hesitant to crack down on militants...?
6 posted on 10/15/2002 6:55:41 AM PDT by ellery
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To: Dundee
"...target the Hindu population of Bali..."

Ok, lets see:

The Jews get along with Christians.

The Jews get along with Hindus.

Christians get along with Jews.

Christians get along with Hindus.

Hindus get along with Jews.

Hindus get along with Christians.

muslims dont get along with Jews.

muslims dont get along with Christians.

muslims dont get along with Hindus

Gee, I wonder which group is the source of the problem?

7 posted on 10/15/2002 7:52:41 AM PDT by TheLooseThread
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To: Dundee
The next thing we're going to see is an attempted military coup in Indonesia.
8 posted on 10/15/2002 7:59:50 AM PDT by COB1
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To: Dundee
Mr O'Connor said the Laskar Jihad group was in a position to get C4 from elements within the Indonesian army.

And how long have you known this information Mr. O'Connor?

9 posted on 10/15/2002 8:56:01 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Teacher317
If we now have a clear and legitimate military opponent, this desperately needed war can finally get kicked into high gear.

Why sould this situation give us a clear military opponent? By that logic, we should have attacked ourselves after the Murrah bombing since it was a former Army Ranger who allegedly committed the act.

10 posted on 10/15/2002 8:57:43 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: TheLooseThread
The radical/fundamentalist moslems end goal is to destroy civilization. Look at Afghanistan or other places in the world where their beliefs are prevailent. A pile of rubble with the occasional goat or camel. They keep their people subjected through the use of fear.
11 posted on 10/15/2002 8:58:38 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: TheLooseThread
Christians get along with Jews.

Ever hear of the Christian Identity movement?

12 posted on 10/15/2002 8:58:39 AM PDT by Demidog
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I can't imagine that you would seriously consider them Christian, even though they claim a perversion of that theology and call themselves "Christian".
13 posted on 10/15/2002 12:40:12 PM PDT by TheBlueMax
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I can't imagine that you would seriously consider them Christian, even though they claim a perversion of that theology and call themselves "Christian".

Exactly. Why would you consider extremist Moslem's Moslem?

14 posted on 10/15/2002 7:05:56 PM PDT by Demidog
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"Ever hear of the Christian Identity movement?"

Yeah, I have.

They are the ones that hijacked some jets and crashed them into the WTC buildings. No, wait, I'm thinking of someone else.

Oh yeah. They are the ones who just recently blew up a nighclub and killed almost 200 people. Darn, no. Wait, I'm thinking of someone else again.

Aren't they the guys strapping on explosives and blowing up men, women, and children eating in cafes? No..., I'm sorry my memory gets fuzzy sometimes. I'm thinking of someone else.

Yes! Now I remember. They are the movement that take many people hostage and use the ransom to kidnap, kill, and mame others. Huh? I'm wrong? Damit, who am I thinking of then?

Aha! That's right! They are the group that targets church goers with granades and bullets. No!?? Geez, for crying out loud.

Are they the movement trying to get nuclear weapons or maybe they are the group trying to get hold of smallpox, or are they the group trying to kill thousands with sarin?

Damn. I give up. Who am I thinking of. The name is just on the tip of my tounge...

15 posted on 10/15/2002 7:45:17 PM PDT by TheLooseThread
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"Why would you consider extremist Moslem's Moslem?"

There is no such thing a an extremist moslem. Only moslem activists.

16 posted on 10/15/2002 7:46:29 PM PDT by TheLooseThread
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There is no such thing a an extremist moslem.

Of course not. All two billion Moslems will one day go off as a bomb. Your level of reasoning is astoundingly poor.

17 posted on 10/15/2002 8:02:03 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: TheLooseThread
Yeah, I have.

I guess you haven't.

18 posted on 10/15/2002 8:02:34 PM PDT by Demidog
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