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McBride caught up in incendiary scandal
RPOF Email ^ | 16 October 2002 | Republican Party of Florida

Posted on 10/16/2002 11:58:54 AM PDT by PhiKapMom

McBride caught up in incendiary scandal

Bush Co-Chair Blasts McBride for Refusing to Condemn Remarks From Supporter Who Compared the Bush Family to Bin Laden and Called the Bush’s “Godless” and “Neo-Nazis”

McBride Says to Judge Him by His Friends, but Again Shows He is Unwilling to Cross His Special Interest Supporters

TALLAHASSEE—Bill McBride often says that Floridians should judge him by his friends. Recently, one of his “friends” made a series of vicious, personal attacks against Gov. Jeb Bush and his entire family, comparing the Bush family to the bin Laden family and calling the Bush’s “neo-Nazis.” When given the chance to condemn the attacks, and show that he is willing, and has the courage, to stand up to those who support him, McBride said nothing, demonstrating once again that he is unwilling to contradict the special interests running and funding his campaign. In fact, McBride has yet to even once take a public position contrary to those of his biggest backer, the teachers union, suggesting that as Governor, he will simply follow their lead.

According to today’s Washington Post, McBride recently appeared on the radio program of former Miami-Dade NAACP chair Rev. Victor Curry. On the air, just before McBride’s interview began, Curry verbally assaulted the Governor and his family, at one point saying that the Bush family and the bin Laden family were business “’partners’ seeking to profit from war.”

“Curry could be heard on monitors around the small building saying that he would support ‘a dog’ rather than Jeb Bush. As for President Bush, he ‘should be impeached—for treason,’” the Post reported. Curry went on to say of the Bush family, “These people are on a neo-Nazi, right-wing mission against the American people.” He concluded calling the Bush administration a “Godless, wicked regime.”

And what was Bill McBride’s response to all of this? Instead of condemning the remarks, McBride instead praised Curry. According to the Post, “Minutes later, McBride’s gentle drawl came over the radio, assuring Curry that, as governor, ‘One of the people I’m going to listen to is you.’ Later, the candidate insisted that he had heard none of Curry’s remarks.”

Even when pressed by the Post about the remarks, McBride refused to condemn or even repudiate them and make clear that he is willing to stand up to the special interests that support him. In fact, McBride dismissed Curry’s comments, simply saying, “’He didn’t say any of that while I was talking to him.’”

“As a Jew, I am offended that Bill McBride would not speak out against such terrible remarks, particularly the references comparing the Bush Administration to neo-Nazis,” stated prominent businessman and Jewish community leader Norman Braman. “McBride has an obligation to set the record straight. He has told us all to judge him by his friends. The eyes and ears of all Floridians are now on Bill McBride to see if he has the courage to condemn these despicable comments from one of his supporters. Until then, his silence is as deafening as it is telling.”

“As a black woman, as an American and a Floridian, and as a Democrat, I am outraged that Bill McBride would sit idly by while one of his supporters so viciously and personally attacks Gov. Bush and his entire family,” stated Bush-Brogan Co-Chair Julia Johnson. “To compare the Bush family to bin Laden, and to call the Bush Administration ‘Godless’ and refer to them as neo-Nazis, is itself despicable and shameful. But for Bill McBride to refuse to repudiate those remarks out of fear of offending one of his special interest supporters is no less than contemptible.

“Bill McBride should immediately and forcefully condemn and repudiate Victor Curry’s attacks,” Johnson continued. “Leadership means that sometimes you have to have the courage to stand up to your friends and supporters and tell them publicly that they are wrong. It’s not always easy to do, but it’s necessary to do as a leader, and certainly as a Governor. McBride should show Floridians that he is not afraid to stand up to the special interests who support him and immediately, publicly and forcefully condemn these comments and apologize to all Floridians for standing silently by and not speaking up on his own.”


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Please forward this to every Florida voter you know and to the Florida press.
1 posted on 10/16/2002 11:58:55 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: JulieRNR21; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; NautiNurse; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...


2 posted on 10/16/2002 12:02:03 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Joe Brower; Brandonmark; Alex P. Keaton; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; ...
Thanks for posting that! I was searching for the picture of the Bush/Brogan versus McBride/Rossin and who do you trust, but the RPOF website is down right now.

This is even better!
3 posted on 10/16/2002 12:03:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom; redlipstick
Please forward this to every Florida voter you know...

OK!

Ping, red!

4 posted on 10/16/2002 12:05:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: PhiKapMom
CLICK HERE
5 posted on 10/16/2002 12:06:04 PM PDT by summer
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To: Joe Brower
Good one.

It's a proven fact that Democrats have more germs.

6 posted on 10/16/2002 12:06:40 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Joe Brower
Exterminate the RATS on 5 November 2002!!!

WooooHOOOOO...MUD

7 posted on 10/16/2002 12:07:10 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: PhiKapMom
I know several diehard liberals who are condemning McIdiot and voting for Jeb. They are public edu teachers, too.
8 posted on 10/16/2002 12:10:42 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: PhiKapMom; summer; Ragtime Cowgirl
"McBride has yet to even once take a public position contrary to those of his biggest backer, the teachers union, suggesting that as Governor, he will simply follow their lead."

I'm not sure which is a more disgustingly abhorrent foe to proudly--and openly--run against, the Teacher's Unions or the Trial Lawyers...both spread misery and tumult and ignorance wherever they spew their bodacious lies!!

FReegards...MUD

9 posted on 10/16/2002 12:11:03 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: PhiKapMom
Hey, Bill McB. can you say landslide? I knew that you could.
10 posted on 10/16/2002 12:13:15 PM PDT by ladtx
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To: Joe Brower
bttt
11 posted on 10/16/2002 12:15:40 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: PhiKapMom; All
I misplaced the link for this earlier, besides examples & a pep talk, it has tools for sending mass emails:

-Activate Yourself! --

12 posted on 10/16/2002 12:17:51 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: PhiKapMom
[Rev. Victor] Curry could be heard on monitors around the small building saying that he would support 'a dog' rather than Jeb Bush.

Sorry, Vic; your candidate lost the primary.

13 posted on 10/16/2002 12:22:07 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: PhiKapMom
According to the Post, "Minutes later, McBride’s gentle drawl came over the radio, assuring Curry that, as governor, 'One of the people I’m going to listen to is you.' Later, the candidate insisted that he had heard none of Curry’s remarks."

ROFL!

14 posted on 10/16/2002 12:23:53 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: PhiKapMom
Please forward this to every Florida voter you know

I would, but they don't allow people to distribute leaflets in the cemetary.

15 posted on 10/16/2002 12:25:39 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Mudboy Slim
BUMP!
16 posted on 10/16/2002 12:29:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: PhiKapMom
Seems McBride is joining the Boys from Bagdad

Jane Fonda would be proud of him

Hey McBride .. you are either with us or against us
17 posted on 10/16/2002 12:34:13 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: PhiKapMom; Deb; Mudboy Slim; lodwick; backhoe; Mo1; floriduh voter; dorben; gatorman; ...
Just asked O'Reilly & FNC to cover this story.....suggest others also ask various media including Drudge & Rush for coverage.

Let's not lose this opportunity to get the word out about this incident.
18 posted on 10/16/2002 12:42:37 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: PhiKapMom
Let's Roll !!

The RATS are in disarray...eradicate the rodents !!

Fire Democrats, Hire Republicans !!

GWB Is The Man !!

Snuff Saddam, NOW !!

Death To all Tyrant's !!

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

19 posted on 10/16/2002 12:46:40 PM PDT by blackie
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To: PhiKapMom
Here's a link to the WP article that has this story. Since we can't post full text from the WP, I've copied a few other tidbits from the article below.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32140-2002Oct15.html

. . . . He and his wife, a retired bank executive, used to file joint tax returns. Shortly before announcing his bid for governor, they switched to separate returns. As a result, McBride could claim the smallest net worth of any major candidate -- when for all practical purposes he is by far the richest.

McBride lives in a spacious house on 30 lakeside acres outside Tampa, in an area in which a comparable home recently listed for just under $1 million. But in a 1999 speech, McBride said, "I live in a poor area of my state. The only time many of my neighbors see a lawyer is when the lawyer is representing the mobile home park owner evicting them." . . . .

The aw-shucks aura is essential to McBride's canny strategy, which is to make the election all about Bush and never, ever, to let the focus swing around to him. . . .

McBride attacks Jeb Bush for cutting taxes too aggressively. He blames Bush for Florida's budget deficit. He reminds voters that Bush campaigned on promises to improve education and fix the state's troubled foster care system -- and insists that if Bush hasn't delivered results yet, there is no point giving him more time.

But when the subject shifts to his own plans, McBride remains stubbornly fuzzy. "There's no need for me to change what I've been doing," he tells reporters pressing him for position papers.

Take his second-most prominent issue, prescription drug coverage. McBride speaks so warmly about the travails of retirees struggling with rising drug costs that it's easy to miss his bottom line -- it's not a state problem. Though he ridicules Bush's proposal to provide $160 a month to help needy seniors pay for drugs, it is more concrete than McBride's plan, which is to lobby Congress to solve the problem.

On environmental issues, such as offshore oil drilling and Everglades restoration, McBride's positions appear to be the same as Bush's, though it is hard to tell because he often demurs when pressed on specifics.

There is nothing but danger in taking stands, campaign spokesman Alan Stonecipher suggests. Bush would simply use them to "attack Bill."


20 posted on 10/16/2002 12:51:56 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: PhiKapMom
Well.....Bill McBubba. Can't seem to stay out of the dirt like another Bill we all know and loathe. Can you even imagine anyone calling the Bush family names like that? Gives me the creeps.
21 posted on 10/16/2002 1:05:25 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: JulieRNR21
This is a fairly current list of Senate Email addresses.

put "Dear Senator" in the TO ADDRESS field, have it routed to yourself in your address book for a file copy. Then paste the following list into the BCC ADDRESS field and each recipient will be unaware that you have blanketed them all.

chuck_grassley@grassley.senate.gov; chuck_hagel@hagel.senate.gov; comments@roth.senate.gov; connie@mack.senate.gov; conrad_burns@burns.senate.gov; craig@thomas.senate.gov; dick@durbin.senate.gov; email@murkowski.senate.gov; frank_lautenberg@lautenberg.senate.gov; info@kyl.senate.gov; jesse_helms@helms.senate.gov; jim_inhofe@inhofe.senate.gov; john_ashcroft@ashcroft.senate.gov; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov; kit_bond@bond.senate.gov; larry_craig@craig.senate.gov; mail_grams@grams.senate.gov; mailbox@gregg.senate.gov; mailbox@rpc.senate.gov; max@baucus.senate.gov; mcollins@rnchq.org; michigan@abraham.senate.gov; olympia@snowe.senate.gov; opinion@smith.senate.gov; pat_roberts@roberts.senate.gov; sam_brownback@brownback.senate.gov; sen_dodd@dodd.senate.gov; senator.hutchinson@hutchinson.senate.gov; senatorlott@lott.senate.gov; senator@akaka.senate.gov; senator@bennett.senate.gov; senator@biden.senate.gov; senator@boxer.senate.gov; senator@breaux.senate.gov; senator@bryan.senate.gov; senator@cochran.senate.gov; senator@collins.senate.gov; senator@conrad.senate.gov; senator@dorgan.senate.gov; senator@dpm.senate.gov; senator@enzi.senate.gov; senator@feingold.senate.gov; senator@feinstein.senate.gov; senator@hutchison.senate.gov; senator@inouye.senate.gov; senator@kennedy.senate.gov; senator@landrieu.senate.gov; senator@levin.senate.gov; senator@mcconnell.senate.gov; senator@mikulski.senate.gov; senator@nickles.senate.gov; senator@rockefeller.senate.gov; senator@santorum.senate.gov; senator@sarbanes.senate.gov; senator@sessions.senate.gov; senator@shelby.senate.gov; senator@thurmond.senate.gov; senator@warner.senate.gov; senator@wyden.senate.gov; senator_bingaman@bingaman.senate.gov; senator_byrd@byrd.senate.gov; senator_chafee@chafee.senate.gov; senator_coverdell@coverdell.senate.gov; senator_dewine@dewine.senate.gov; senator_domenici@domenici.senate.gov; senator_frist@frist.senate.gov; senator_gorton@gorton.senate.gov; senator_hatch@hatch.senate.gov; senator_kohl@kohl.senate.gov; senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov; senator_lieberman@lieberman.senate.gov; senator_lugar@lugar.senate.gov; senator_max_cleland@cleland.senate.gov; senator_mccain@mccain.senate.gov; senator_murray@murray.senate.gov; senator_reid@reid.senate.gov; senator_specter@specter.senate.gov; senator_stevens@stevens.senate.gov; senator_thompson@thompson.senate.gov; senator_torricelli@torricelli.senate.gov; senatorlott@lott.senate.gov; tim@johnson.senate.gov; tom_daschle@daschle.senate.gov; tom_harkin@harkin.senate.gov; vermont@jeffords.senate.gov

Once you've e-FReeped 'em once, please consider doing it again...and again...and again...changing the message each time so that they're more inclined read each email.

Ol' Grannie Carnahan...yer MEAT!!!

LOL and FReegards...MUD

22 posted on 10/16/2002 1:18:18 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: JulieRNR21; backhoe
Next step is to alert those Media folks who might be supportive of our Cause...feel free to add to this list in subsequent posts.

Once again, put "Dear Media" in the TO ADDRESS field, have it routed to yourself in your address book for a file copy. Then paste the following list into the BCC ADDRESS field and each recipient will be unaware that you have blanketed them all.

speaker@aim.org, takeaction@americasvoice.com, pat@theamericancause.org, cbnonline@cbn.org, viewer@c-span.org, cato@free-market.net, drudge@drudgereport.com, comment@foxnews.com, letter@globe.com, insight@wt.infi.net, jwatch@erols.com, imus@msnbc.com, hq@lp.org, marklevin@aol.com, jacolumn@toto.net, feedback@usatoday.com, editor@dolphin.gulf.net

That's just a start, and we'll compile any other media emails as you make them available to this thread.

FReegards, all...MUD

23 posted on 10/16/2002 1:19:32 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: JulieRNR21; Wait4Truth
Haven't read the thread yet... An incendiary scandal. Thanks for the ping. I thought the guy was not only void of ideas but he's also very "the porch light's on but nobody's home." Thanks. FV
24 posted on 10/16/2002 1:21:37 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: PhiKapMom
I hope Sean Hannity counts. He's talking about Republicans fighting hard this election cycle and his show's on now.

I think the Tampa Tribune would like this possibly or maybe even the St. Pete Times. I think they dislike McBride even though they're libs - they wanted Janet.

THIS IS A GREAT FIND BUT I THINK MCBRIDE'S EVEN WORSE THAN JUST THIS ONE STORY.

If he won't disavow this folks, then we know how left he really is and possibly a sociopath for votes.

25 posted on 10/16/2002 1:33:10 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
Believe that McBride would be worse than Chiles and the worst Governor ever for Florida. Not sure a lot of the press isn't beginning to think the same!
26 posted on 10/16/2002 1:36:09 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
bump
27 posted on 10/16/2002 1:38:12 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: PhiKapMom
Someone as simplistic as McBride is very dangerous because he's not his own man. Perfect for the DNC. Did you read the debate thread? He says stuff like "I took everything off the table blah, blah, blah, let's everybody put everything on the table." What is it? On or off BM? LOL

Oh, I emailed Drudge too. He might get made about the neo-nazi stuff. I'm not sure he likes Jeb but maybe he'll read this article. Sent the article, not just the url.

28 posted on 10/16/2002 1:41:59 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Dixie Mom
If elected, the only things mcbbride will do is raise taxes and go after gun owners .

If the citizens of the State of Florida are stupid enough to elect mebride, they will lose both their gins and money.

In an honest election I would not be too concerned, but I know how the democrats can manufacture votes.

I remember the election of bill clinton and the re-election of the sob after the American people knew full well what a liar, traitor, and sob he is.

I also remember as well the '00 election. If everyone who claimed to be a Christian and every gun owner had voted for Bush, that election would have not been close enough to have given the democrats the idea to try to steal it [which they almost did].

Jeb's supporters need to fight like there is no tomorrow.
29 posted on 10/16/2002 1:43:41 PM PDT by sport
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To: JulieRNR21
Can you post the e-mail addresses for us? O'Reilly, FOX, Hannity, etc.?
30 posted on 10/16/2002 1:48:52 PM PDT by Winfield
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To: JulieRNR21
Can you post the e-mail addresses for us? O'Reilly, FOX, Hannity, etc.?
31 posted on 10/16/2002 1:50:21 PM PDT by Winfield
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To: Dixie Mom; Joe Montana; mssnoop
Bump!!!!!
32 posted on 10/16/2002 1:50:44 PM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Dixie Mom
Thanks for the information.
33 posted on 10/16/2002 1:54:01 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: sport
If elected, the only things mcbbride will do is raise taxes and go after gun owners .

If the citizens of the State of Florida are stupid enough to elect mebride, they will lose both their gins and money.

You've got that right. The required funding for McB's platforms is in the tens of billions of dollars. When he was asked during the debate how a cigarette tax would generate that kind of revenue, he said to trust him, he would take care of it. To me, that can only mean a state income tax, a service tax, and any other kind of tax you can imagine.

His feigned support for the 2nd amendment is a DNC talking point, nothing more, nothing less.

34 posted on 10/16/2002 2:11:55 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Donald Stone
Bump back at ya! :)
35 posted on 10/16/2002 2:12:33 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Dixie Mom
Does this issue truly have any legs?????????
36 posted on 10/16/2002 2:13:38 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the information.

My pleasure!

37 posted on 10/16/2002 2:13:43 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: sport; All
Jeb's supporters need to fight like there is no tomorrow.

Amen.

Please write to your local papers. My subject line: Far more than "dubious", McBride's choice to defend Mr. Curry's hate speech.

http://209.26.39.197/CS/customerserv.php?news_contacts=news_contacts.inc (fort myers news-press, e-mail links)
 editor.letters@heraldtribune.com (sarasota herald tribune)
letters@naplesnews.com (naples news)
dklement@bradentonherald.com (bradenton herald)
kguy@sun-sentinel.com (sun-sentinel, ft. lauderdale)
tuletters@timesunion.com (florida times-union, jacksonville)
insight@orlandosentinel.com (orlando sentinel)
letters@pbpost.com (palm beach post)
letters@sptimes.com (st. pete times)
tribletters@tampatrib.com (tampa tribune)
tdedit@talden.com (tallahassee democrat)
bcotterel@taldem.com (good guy at the t.d.)
HeraldEd@herald.com(miami herald)
http://www.opedletters.com/cfm/state.cfm?StateAbbrev=FL (multiple florida press e-mail links)
http://www.rpof.org/rcs/rpof/pub_rpof/web_rpof/fld_otherpages/pg_lte_20011127/index.jsp(FlaGOP multi-link, press)
 

38 posted on 10/16/2002 2:18:36 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: PhiKapMom; ForGod'sSake; sultan88; scholar; Mudboy Slim
Reminds me of the 'Rat who called into Rush's show & started to site parts taken from our constitution, no less, concerning the use of some kind of surveilance aircraft for locating this sniper.
These divices, which're supposedly military property, could not be used "domestically" against our nation's own people yadayadayada...

I couldn't help but think about Clintigula & the countless times he -- blatantly -- trampled that very same constitution & either there was nothing said by the Liberal-Socialists a'tall; or, worse yet?
They bent over backwards to justify the guy's action(s)/behavior(s) and did so by bending the rules even further.
Where was this caller & those of his ilk, then??
The irony.

Anyway, the use of words like, "Nazi" et al are to me a "litmus" of their desperation.

As for the remarks that were *leaked* across the building's intercom system??
Well first off; look who's show this shameless sleeze was appearing on, eh?
Now Dubya called Clymer an, "Asshole" & he's immediately labeled as, "UNFIT to govern" based on this gaff.
While this gubernatorial sleeze bag "plays the room" down there with the NAALCP using the oldest ploy in the book.
Black on white hatred.

...& the silence is deafening.

39 posted on 10/16/2002 2:22:49 PM PDT by Landru
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To: PhiKapMom
Jeb's "dubious" comment re. the class-size con is playschool compared to McBride's defense of this incendiary speech from Mr. Curry. McBride's apology now would mean little. This is the REAL McBride. It's more than "dubious"...it's dishonorable. Mr. Curry should lose his job over this one.

Our founding fathers knew their scripture, had courage and a moral core. They never intended the first amendment to be used to protect the enemy. "These people are on a neo-Nazi, right-wing mission against the American people.” He concluded calling the Bush administration a “Godless, wicked regime.”

The definition of slander.

40 posted on 10/16/2002 2:26:45 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: PhiKapMom
I have sent it on, unfortunately no Floridians on the list, however the more people know about the sorry man running against Jeb Bush the better. How sad such a person is representing so many, but look at the same people who wanted Reno.

The Great Society was the beginning of the end for those still on the plantation of the Democratic Party, but many are finding their way back to decency, honesty and hard work making a good life for themselves, no longer taking the crumbs of promises from the slave holders, the democrats. You Floridians, who are helping with the election, be sure to check the "double dippers" that live in other states and spend their winters in your state. It was said many of them voted twice.

41 posted on 10/16/2002 2:28:12 PM PDT by yoe
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To: PhiKapMom

42 posted on 10/16/2002 2:33:15 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Mudboy Slim
Bump and bookmark
43 posted on 10/16/2002 2:35:32 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: PhiKapMom
Forwarded to a bunch of Florida voters. Thanks for the ping.
44 posted on 10/16/2002 2:41:06 PM PDT by sultan88
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To: Landru
Anyway, the use of words like, "Nazi" et al are to me a "litmus" of their desperation.

I think you've called it right on the Dims. They are becoming very shrill. There's just no telling what kind of shenanigans they're liable to pull this goround. It ain't gonna be pretty I'm afraid.

Consider we got a black Dim senate candidate here in the great state o' Texas name of Ron Kirk(ptui) that likes to hang out with the likes of Snoop Doggy Doo, or whatever his name is. He apparently thinks gangsta rap is where it's at. The good news is, the longer he campaigns, the worse his numbers get. This guy can't even keep his black base together. Latest polls show him with barely a majority of black votes. I smell a senate take back!!!

FGS

45 posted on 10/16/2002 2:47:25 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: CyberCowboy777; advocate10
"Ring DemBells!!"

We can make it even easier for folks to access the Vast, LeftWing Media Whore'd by...

putting "Dear Media" in the TO ADDRESS field, and have it routed to yourself in your address book for a file copy. Then paste the following list into the BCC ADDRESS field and each recipient will be unaware that you have blanketed them all. Please be polite--yet firm--in asking why there has been such inadequate coverage into the sleazy criminal behavior of the DNC's Chairman, Terry McAulliffe, then check back into this thread and let us know what you said.

letters@newsweek.com, letters@time.com, conedit@ajc.com, letters@baltsun.com, letter@globe.com, news@globe.com, letterstoeditor@bostonherald.com, opinion@charlotte.com, letters@suntimes.com, news@cleveland.com, letterstoeditor@dallasnews.com, letters@denverpost.com, business@det-freepress.com, letter@detnews.com, viewpoints@chron.com, letters@latimes.com, HeraldEd@herald.com, politics@startribune.com, letters@newsday.com, letters@nytimes.com, Inquirer.Opinion@phillynews.com, DailyNews.Opinion@phillynews.com, letters@post-gazette.com, letters@uniontrib.com, chronletters@sfgate.com, letters@examiner.com, letters@sjmercury.com, editpage@seattle-pi.com, opinion@seatimes.com, editor@usatoday.com, letter.editor@edit.wsj.com, Letterstoed@washpost.com, wtnews@wt.infi.net, feedback@cnn.com, cnn.onair@cnn.com, crossfire@cnn.com, viewer@c-span.org, colmments@foxnews.com, hardball@cnbc.com, letters@msnbc.com, opinion@msnbc.com, TheNews@msnbc.com, dateline@news.nbc.com, nightly@news.nbc.com, today@news.nbc.com, MTP@nbc.com

Let's do the Big Guv'ment Media Sycophants research for them, folks, and then see if we don't see a few more stories about Terry McAuliffe's Corruption in the Press!!

FReegards...MUD

46 posted on 10/16/2002 2:50:11 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: advocate10
Here's another mass email listing that may prove frutiful in creating a buzz, political talk shows!!

Once again, put "To My Favorite Talk Show Host" in the TO ADDRESS field, have it routed to yourself in your address book for a file copy. Then paste the following list into the BCC ADDRESS field and each recipient will be unaware that you have blanketed them all.

chuck@chuckbaldwinlive.com, belling@cyberlynknetwork.com, qra@inteport.com, wtp@wtp.org, pat@patchoate.com, bq@radioamerica.org, bob@bobdornan.com, larry@larryelder.com, roger@regularguy.com, guntalk@guntalk.com, hannity@foxnews.com, roger@rogerhedgecock.com, lkl@cnn.com, godonliddy@aol.com, rush@eibnet.com, pov@usaradio.com, bob.mohan@kfyi.com, jill@lvcm.com, jpa@wava.com, quinn@warroom.com, drshow@wamu.org, michael.a.savage@abc.com, wxyt@wxyt.com, dickstaub@compuserve.com, talkback@cnn.com, liberty@fcref.org, wilbur@kvi.com

BTW...this is a pretty powerful way of getting the word out to many people who have access to many people, so PLEASE be polite and respectful in your comments, yet firm in asking whether it is fair that an obvious Breaker of Multiple Campaign Finance Laws should be held Immune from Prosecution while he hypocritically calls for NEW Campaign Finance Reform!! Enforce the OLD LAWS before we even consider passing new ones!!!

FReegards...MUD

47 posted on 10/16/2002 2:52:20 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Elkiejg
DOJ & Congressional aides emails:

jeff.lungren@mail.house.gov,
Mimi_Devlin@judiciary.senate.gov,
Joyce_Rechtschaffen@govt-aff.senate.gov,
Leslie_Phillips@govt-aff.senate.gov,
josie.duckett@mail.house.gov,
brian.j.walsh@mail.house.gov,
john.cardarelli@mail.house.gov,

mindy.tucker@usdoj.gov,
michael.horowitz@usdoj.gov,
joseph.gangloff@usdoj.gov,
lee.radek@usdoj.gov,askdoj@usdoj.gov ,

FBI - New York Office: newyork@fbi.gov

50 Posted on 08/19/2001 07:51:28 PDT by Elkiejg (elkiejg@aol.com)

FReegards...MUD

48 posted on 10/16/2002 2:55:45 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
BEEN HOLDING THIS CARD FOR AWHILE, but since the topic is incendiary, DISTRICT 54, Pinellas County, especially, please read the following from a Green Candidate (not on his web site - that's toned down). The Dems are going to support this guy since they don't have a dem in the race. Hold on to your hats - this is from a public supporter email that someone sent to me.

Dear friend,

I've asked my supporters to pass this message on to their email list of friends who live in my district. I've been endorsed by the Sierra Club and NOW. It's the first time either group has endorsed outside the major parties. The Democrats are supporting my campaign since they are not running a candidate in my race. You can see the other issues I'm running on at my website www.gratzol.com.

If you believe in these issues VOTE for me, and tell your friends to VOTE for me. Now is the time, and time is short.

These are the issues I believe in:

Grassroots Democracy. How do we create a structure that allows every person to have a say over the forces that affect her life? Only by creating a space where people have the time and energy to take action among, and with, like minded people. From this base can spring forms of association and government, which allows some control of events. It's at the local level that decisions affecting us all must be made, not from the top down.

Social Justice and Equal Opportunity. Just as all Nations must be the first recipient of wealth from their natural resources, so must each citizen receive the benefit of the economic wealth generated by their labor. It's absurd to deny a class of people opportunity based on who they marry, or how they speak, or their skin color. When all members of society are treated equally much of the friction which wastes money and lives will evaporate making the pie bigger. Everyone benefits.

Ecological Wisdom. The world is a finite system. There isn't a shoreline anywhere in the world that doesn't get Styrofoam cups washed up on it. Everyone knows this, those that don't care are whistling past the graveyard. There is a reason the uncaring ones are frightened by the ecologists. They know, they know they must change, and they are afraid. The Greens must show the way by example and by passing laws that focus on sustainability. It is the only system that can possibly work. There is much hope in this area.

Already new forms of accounting are valuing resources according to all their costs, ecological, social, and economical. Progress is being made.

Non-Violence. This is a hard concept at the state level. Herein is the ethical resistance to the death sentence. The state must maintain it's monopoly on violence, at the same time work to become less violent. There must always be a coercive force for the protection of person and property.

At the state level we can work to make that coercive force an expectation for peaceful conflict resolution, rather that threat of violence.

Decentralization. I believe less is more. I believe in a business model where the stakeholders make the decisions, and are directly responsible for the consequences of those decisions. I believe in bioregionalism. For a grassroots democracy to work the span of control must remain small. If all costs are factored into the equation it really doesn't make much sense to bring California oranges to Florida.

Community Based Economics and Economic Justice. I support small business. I believe that businesses, where the stake holders are directly involved in the decision making process, and receive the consequences of their decisions, should be encouraged. Almost by definition this support lends itself to Community Based Economics. A living wage is part of this program. (see the issue section of my website www.gratzol.com ) It's absurd that my friend Mike, a guy who works very hard 8 to 10 hours a day, except for the season when he works 10 to 12 hours per day can hardly keep his nose above water. If the minimum wage of 1968 were adjusted for inflation it would be worth 10.25 today.

Feminism and Gender Equity. We need to have equality (equal pay, equal work, no bias based on sex or preference). Till that is established the only thing to do is promote preferentially from within. Everyone who has hire/fire power needs to do that. Michael Moore said it best in his chapter Kill Whitey, from Stupid White Men. I believe what he said.

Respect for Diversity. Diversity starts at the global level, species extinction is wrong morally and economically stupid. Taxol, the drug worth billions, came from a Yew tree. We have a societal need to preserve diversity. By moral extension, diversity across life styles, race, and gender is essential for our country to maintain its lead in the world. For example, when a marketing task force is set up within a company the best companies select from the widest range of personnel. If we close out people from the leadership process we lose their unique expertise. So it's moral, and makes good business sense.

Personal and Global Responsibility. We each have a responsibility to live a careful life. I'm not sure that means we have to do without, just to do with care, and with the knowledge that many resources are not renewable, and that our children will do without, or do at much greater cost, if we don't use some sense. By the same token we must support global organizations, which have the same mindset, to carry out careful living all over the world.

Future Focus and Sustainability. Many of the decisions made by our legislature ARE NOT aimed at the seventh generation. I have an idea of where we need to be, towns and cities organized around public transit, bike to work jobs, challenging work that supports the individual without savaging nature. How to do that anytime soon in a legislature controlled by the Republicans is beyond me. Yet the work needs to begin. About as far as I can see is to slow down the rate of decay while we build the party. Then we can start shaping society into a sustainable future.

DOES BILL MCBRIDE THROW HIS SUPPORT BEHIND MR. GRATZOL, YES OR NO? Make no mistake, this came via email from Bill McBride's campaign. McBride's a presstitute for votes. He has no core values or beliefs.

Someone with more nerve than me should send this to TIM RUSSERT before the debate Tuesday along with the topic of this thread.

49 posted on 10/16/2002 3:31:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Dixie Mom
A service tax except for legal services. Protecting his own which isn't really applicable because he's not a very good lawyer IMO.
50 posted on 10/16/2002 3:33:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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