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International Truck and Engine to close 1,000-worker plant in Chatham, Ontario
CBC News ^ | October 17, 2002 | STEVE ERWIN

Posted on 10/17/2002 6:22:12 PM PDT by Willie Green

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CHATHAM, Ont. (CP) - The Navistar truck plant that employs 1,000 workers in Chatham will close next summer as production shifts to Mexico - a devastating blow to the small southwestern Ontario city. The U.S. company that owns Navistar announced the shutdown to employees Thursday, saying closure of the heavy truck plant was "a necessary step" to address competitive market conditions. There was a six-week strike at the plant during the summer.

"Obviously, this decision was made only after exploring every available option to achieve the competitive cost structure needed, given industry demand," Steve Keate, president of International Truck and Engine Corp., said in a statement.

Production will be shifted to the company's Escobedo, Mexico, assembly plant, which was built in 1998.

The move infuriated the Canadian Auto Workers, which represents unionized workers at the factory.

CAW president Buzz Hargrove called the decision a "despicable action" that shows disrespect for the plant's workers.

"It's a slap in the face to say that we're going to transfer work out of Canada, into Mexico - same truck, in slave labour conditions - and ship it back into Canada," Hargrove said in an interview.

Hargrove urged the federal government to step in to fight Navistar on the closure, saying the company should not be allowed to sell trucks in Canada if it won't contribute to the Canadian economy with manufacturing work.

He said Canada could get its heavy-duty trucks from other companies - such as Paccar in Quebec and Freightliner in St. Thomas, Ont. - which both sell and manufacture in Canada.

"I'm calling on the prime minister today to notify Navistar management that they're not going to be able to sell their products in our country," Hargrove said.

The plant is one of southwestern Ontario's biggest industrial employers and its closure is a major blow to Chatham and surrounding area, primarily an agricultural region near Windsor.

Keate said the closure early next summer "better positions International to profitably serve its heavy truck business and contributes to the company's goal of profitability over the business cycle."

Navistar announced in August it would lay off 1,100 workers, mostly at U.S. sites in Ohio and Indiana.

In addition to the 1,000 employees now working at the Chatham factory there are 1,200 on indefinite layoff. The CAW represents 824 hourly-rated workers and 80 office workers in Chatham.

In July, the union signed a two-year contract with the company ensuring the factory would not be closed before June 1, 2003. International Truck said the exact timing for the closing of the plant will be "announced at a later date."

"We are highly confident this decision will strengthen our ability to be competitive in the heavy truck business," Keate said in a release from International Truck's headquarters in Warrenville, Ill.

"The Escobedo facility will continue to meet the standard of quality that International products are known for and that our customers expect."

Keate also praised the Chatham workforce in the closure announcement.

"This has been a very difficult decision, but this decision in no way reflects on the performance of our Chatham employees and the quality trucks they build," he said.

Hargrove commented: "Even in their press release, they compliment their workers on the quality of their work as they throw them out on the street. Such disrespect. It's incredible."

The new labour deal reached in Chatham this summer ended a six-week strike that saw a Windsor CAW member critically injured when he was struck by a van.

The strike resulted from a dispute on how to cut $28 million US in costs at the Chatham plant. International had asked employees to take concessions to keep the plant operating.

The union was furious about tactics used by Navistar in the strike, including trying to use replacement workers.

Speculation about a closure heightened this week after a two-day meeting of Navistar directors in Chicago, the parent company of International Truck and Engine, which owns and operates the Chatham operation.

The union has long argued that since the demise of the Canada-U.S. auto pact in early 2001 - which included regulations that forced automakers to build as many vehicles in Canada as they sell or face tariffs - will lead to more work being shifted to Mexico, where labour costs are lower.

"We've got no auto policy, no government policy governing this industry," Hargrove said. "For the first time since the 1930s, we're catering to the management . . . we can bargain some things as a union, but where you don't, you end up with the Americans making some decisions for American interests and to hell with Canadians."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: nafta; recession; thebusheconomy
The giant sucking sound.
1 posted on 10/17/2002 6:22:13 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Your comment about a giant sucking sound.


Not necessarily!

These (construction, mining, tucking, housing, etc. are cyclical industries. I've been in the HE business since '74 band have been through three downturns. Survived each one and will come out of this one.

It's capitalism! Embrace it! Love it! And bless it for all the good it brings us.
2 posted on 10/17/2002 6:32:20 PM PDT by x1stcav
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To: x1stcav

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3 posted on 10/17/2002 6:32:51 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Willie Green
Real life is tough when you live in LaLa land.
4 posted on 10/17/2002 6:33:15 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: x1stcav
You didn't read the article, did you?
5 posted on 10/17/2002 6:45:45 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green; B4Ranch; glock rocks
so help me out here....canadians building American trucks GOOD! - Mexicans building American trucks bad...

if mexicans have steady jobs don't they have to stay in Mexico to go to that job?

hard to swin to my state for their free undocumented drivers license, education and medical card if they have WORK!!!
6 posted on 10/17/2002 7:00:23 PM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: Pete-R-Bilt
....canadians building American trucks GOOD! - Mexicans building American trucks bad...

My preference is Americans building American trucks.
Let the Mexicans and Canadians build their own.

if mexicans have steady jobs don't they have to stay in Mexico to go to that job?

And Americans can stand in the welfare lines?

7 posted on 10/17/2002 7:10:12 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
by this story, the plant is already away from the original Burlington, Iowa roots. don't twist the facts of this article with Democrat tactics of substituting fact with emotion.

That so beneath true debate forum.


FRegards, PTRBLT
8 posted on 10/17/2002 7:20:07 PM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: Pete-R-Bilt
don't twist the facts of this article with Democrat tactics of substituting fact with emotion.

My reply clearly indicated it was my personal preference.
And you're the one who injected the American labor market into the discussion with your comments regarding illegal Mexican migrants to your state.

Take your high-falootin' "FRegards" and insinuation of "Democrat tactics" and stuff 'em where the sun don't shine, newbie. They contribute very little to "true debate" on this forum.

9 posted on 10/17/2002 7:38:17 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green; Pete-R-Bilt; B4Ranch
"We've got no auto policy, no government policy governing this industry," Hargrove said. "For the first time since the 1930s, we're catering to the management . . . we can bargain some things as a union, but where you don't, you end up with the Americans making some decisions for American interests and to hell with Canadians."

well, gosh. it costs less to build a transtar where you don't have to support socialist medicine? go figure.

of course, capitalism and enterprise are neo-bad things... or wait... we hate mexico because W loves fox and open borders. gotta get them union votes, too.

or something.

ya think the harverster family gives a poop?
well, i guess i'm a newbie, too. so go stuff it yourself, cobweb.

10 posted on 10/17/2002 7:44:25 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Willie Green
It's a slap in the face to say that we're going to transfer work out of Canada, into Mexico - same truck, in slave labour conditions - and ship it back into Canada," Hargrove said in an interview.

That's probably what their US counterparts said when these jobs left the US for Canada.

11 posted on 10/17/2002 7:49:35 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender
very good answer
12 posted on 10/17/2002 7:51:49 PM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: glock rocks
it costs less to build a transtar where you don't have to support socialist medicine?

So what is it that you're saying?
That health care costs in the United States are low?
Or that we should adopt Mexico's health care system?

13 posted on 10/17/2002 7:56:07 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: x1stcav; Willie Green; Pete-R-Bilt; glock rocks
x1stcav, What you are seeing here is NAFTA, a word that you cannot get a US Senator to repeat in public unless he is willing to be castrated. Thank the United Nations (Progressive Democrats)for our current programs of socialism and diversity.

Progressive Democrats is also a party that our wonderfully strong elected Republican officials refuse to see as Communism. After all who is going to push for the New World Order if we don't allow the Progressive Democrats to do it?

14 posted on 10/17/2002 7:59:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Willie Green
none of the above. international wants to produce trucks... not support unions and shutdown strikes (six weeks recently in canada), not support socialist regiemes, not support the administrative socialist redistributional agendas of the clintonistas.

trucks.

business decision.
15 posted on 10/17/2002 8:04:27 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: tubebender
That's probably what their US counterparts said when these jobs left the US for Canada.

That plant has been manufacturing trucks and before trucks, wagons since before 1910. There were no US counterparts. Bad answer.

16 posted on 10/17/2002 8:04:54 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: glock rocks
Just to back you up a little bit. Chatham is a strong union town and has been bleeding jobs for decades. This particular plant has been headed for closure for years. A bitter strike this summer only hastened the demise. The only surprise in this story is that the plant has stayed open this long.
17 posted on 10/17/2002 8:08:57 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: glock rocks; B4Ranch; Willie Green
and since trucks (Navistar) makes up only about 20% of internationals structure they are probably that much more sensitive to economics. International Harvester (farm implements) still resides comfortably in the corn belt (Ia.) and is still one of the three top implement mfrs. in the US eh?


glad Peterbilt doesn't make combines...
18 posted on 10/17/2002 8:14:53 PM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: Pete-R-Bilt
glad Peterbilt doesn't make combines...

dunno. probably look damn fine.

19 posted on 10/17/2002 8:22:18 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Snowyman
That plant has been manufacturing trucks and before trucks, wagons since before 1910. There were no US counterparts. Bad answer.

Well there ya go...time to build a more efficient plant.

20 posted on 10/17/2002 8:24:09 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Former Proud Canadian
isn't watching the union/management contention just amazing.

it's a small game of mutually assured destruction... which usually succeeds.

like watching a real slow train wreck.... and everybody seems to lose. rockheads from hell - next time on oprah.
21 posted on 10/17/2002 8:24:42 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: glock rocks
probably look damn fine.

They'd have some class, that's for sure.

22 posted on 10/17/2002 9:34:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: glock rocks
No, I don't think it is a MAD situation. The workers are out of a job, period. The company still gets the production, and as a bonus they get a it done cheaper. As a local observer, Chatham has last litterally hundreds of jobs over the past 20 years. It is a strong union town with a lot of unemployment and not much opportunity. No one in their right mind would start a business there.
23 posted on 10/18/2002 5:11:52 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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