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Shootings to spread to other cities? Expert thinks Washington-area killer doing 'market research
World Net Daily ^ | 10/17/02 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 10/17/2002 7:37:22 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

WND Exclusive
Shootings to spread to other cities?
Expert thinks Washington-area killer doing 'market research'

Posted: October 17, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jon Dougherty
© 2002

A former Green Beret and combat veteran who is an expert in Middle East-based Islamic terrorism believes the sniper killings in the Washington, D.C., area may be the opening shots of a wider, national effort directed against the United States.

John Moore, a former Missouri homicide detective and veteran of more than 57 combat missions in Vietnam, told WorldNetDaily in a wide-ranging interview that he believes the recent sniper attacks are just the beginning of a larger campaign.

"What's going on is what I like to call 'marketing research,'" said Moore, who is also the author of several Special Forces classified studies on Islamic terrorism. "It may just be a test tactic for future use."

He said if the shootings are the work of a terrorist cell – and he believes they are – they "may want to learn just how much shooting they have to do in order to get the desired effect."

A desired effect of the attacks, he said, is "a percentage reduction in productivity," as well as the creation of gridlock in and around the nation's capital. Also, such an operation would seek to damage the local economy while sowing fear and confusion.

The Sept. 11 attacks resulted in substantial losses to the U.S. economy, analysts have determined.

"If you want to create terror while expending a minimal amount of resources, they're certainly doing an excellent job of that," he said, adding the Washington-area attacks "could simply be a matter of fine-tuning this particular tactic" to achieve maximum results.

Moore said the leadership of many of the terrorist organizations aligned against the U.S. are led by well-educated men who have studied American society and culture. He also said they are well-positioned to predict how American leaders will react to certain threats.

"The people in charge of these various organizations – al-Qaida being one of about a dozen – have advanced degrees in the 'hard subjects' such as engineering and mathematics," he said. "They also know they have a finite amount of resources. So they are going to want to know how much of those resources they are going to have to use to get the desired effect."

Once they figure out what works, it's likely they'll apply the formula to other American cities, he said.

Moore's theories coincide with other evidence first disclosed by WorldNetDaily last month. An al-Qaida training videotape, captured in Afghanistan, shows Osama bin Laden's terrorists are not only planning attacks with weapons of mass destruction, but are preparing to kill Americans with drive-by shootings and home break-ins, through ambushes of law-enforcement officers and targeted assassinations on golf courses.

Analysts were surprised by some of what they saw in the latest video and believe they employ terrorist tactics and techniques meant for export to America and other nations, WND reported.

Moore said he believes the "main event" to what's happening in D.C. "will come when we attack Iraq."

"When the war begins in earnest, that would be the time to proceed with whatever [terrorist groups] intend to do [in the U.S.], expending a lot of resources in a lot of cities at the same time to get the maximum impact," said Moore. "That would be the smartest thing."

Yesterday, President Bush – joined by 100 lawmakers in an East Room ceremony – signed a congressional resolution authorizing him to use force against Iraq if Baghdad refuses to disarm and get rid of any weapons of mass destruction.

The resolution "symbolizes the united purpose of our nation, expresses the considered judgment of the Congress and marks an important event in the life of America," he said. "The 107th Congress is one of the few called by history to authorize military action to defend our nation in the cause of peace."

Moore, who says he's done more than 17,500 hours of urban, suburban and rural surveillance, also praised the sniper's choice of vehicle, and indicated that it added yet another air of professionalism to his attacks.

"Most people, most of the time, in any business area won't pay much attention to any given vehicle," he said. "The choice of vehicles was a very smart move. The color white is by far and away the most used color for work and delivery vans in the U.S."

That fact may be why the sniper – or, some believe, snipers – has eluded capture thus far.

Also, police have been unable to release a composite sketch of alleged sniper suspects. Though a number of witnesses reported seeing a sniper in action Monday night when FBI analyst Linda Franklin was shot and killed in Falls Church, Va., police said Wednesday too many factors – such as distance and darkness – have prevented them from reporting enough similarities for a drawing, Fox News reported yesterday.

Franklin is the sniper's 11th victim and the ninth to die. Each have been felled with a single gunshot.

The only common denominator, said Capt. Nancy Demme of the Montgomery County, Md., Police Department yesterday, is that the alleged shooter "is male."

"We don't have a refined description to go by. I know that's not what the public wants to hear," she told reporters.

Should the sniper attacks spread to more communities and cities, Moore believes one of the first things to be sacrificed will be personal liberties.

In fact, he says martial law in some cities or states is a real possibility if attacks get out of hand. And he believes most Americans will accept it in exchange for a promise of security – though he says that kind of dramatic response would be used as a last resort because it would hamper business and commerce, making the fragile U.S. economy even more volatile.

"First and foremost, the business of America is business," he said.

Click here to read WND's coverage of the Washington-area shootings

Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily, and author of the special report, "Election 2000: How the Military Vote Was Suppressed."

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: sniper; terrorism; terrorist
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Heh heh, no I don't think the police are too effective, but there is a general perception among law and order sheeple that they are safe because of them, when they don't believe that anymore it'll be Mad Max time. ;)
41 posted on 10/17/2002 8:17:51 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: Brett66
Guess it's time to stock up on ammo.
42 posted on 10/17/2002 8:18:36 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: Ford Fairlane
Although I have heard about the reports of olive skinned assailants being sighted,I'm leaning towards nut over Al Queda at this point. They seem to mainly aspire to multiple deaths at once,and this smaller scale stuff would seem mickey mouse against what they have shown themselves capable of in the past.I guess it's hard to tell at this point.I will say this is no picnic for law enforcement,and I don't suppose this has been an easy job for them.
43 posted on 10/17/2002 8:19:07 PM PDT by Rocksalt
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To: GoParty
"I have a friend whose theory is that he hasn't come down deep South yet because the majority of the people down here are armed and would shoot back! :)"

Yup. Just yesterday I heard (Through the woods) my neighbor to the north out shooting his M1 the one to the west his 30-30. So, I went outside and ripped a few rounds out of my AK-47. Good 'ol down home folks.

44 posted on 10/17/2002 8:19:33 PM PDT by blam
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To: GOP_Lady
From another WND article on the Beltway sniper(s): Authorities aren't sure anymore that the snipers are escaping shooting scenes on highways. They may be stationed locally and then draw back to nearby hideouts, which may explain how they've managed to slip dragnets.

As other Freepers have speculated (complete with maps of each "local area") could these "nearby hideouts" be mosques? Law enforcement staff will have to LOSE THEIR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS to investigate that theory!!!!

45 posted on 10/17/2002 8:20:16 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: Thumper1960
*IF* terrorists decided to branch out and attack in multiple cities with multiple teams of shooters, I wouldn't give 2 cents to be a Muslim/Middle Eastern type living in the US.

I was thinking the same thing. They might have to institute WWII style internment camps for Arabs just to protect them from the public. It would not be a pretty sight. The only saving grace would be that it would strike a serious blow to the evils of political correctness.

46 posted on 10/17/2002 8:20:53 PM PDT by MCH
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To: Dialup Llama
I think that they do have tapes and have some eye witnesses who are credible. They just aren't telling the media or the public, because if they do, they are also telling the killers.
47 posted on 10/17/2002 8:21:06 PM PDT by GWfan
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To: GOP_Lady
  1. Remember personal safety comes first. If you hear the sound of a gunshot - get down, and/or seek cover.

  2. Look in the direction of the sound - make a mental note of persons or vehicles in that area.

  3. With regard to people, remember that some facts and characteristics are permanent and some are temporary.

    For example:


    • Clothing/color
    • Hairstyle or color, facial hair - beard or mustache
    • Glasses


    • Height/Weight/Build
    • Complexion


    • Color
    • Tag Number
    • Dents/primer
    • Lights on/off broken/burned out


    • Make
    • Model

    Some temporary characteristics can be altered more easily than others.

    Commit what you saw to memory. Have a pen available on your person; if paper is not available, write what you just witnessed on your hand.

    Remain on the scene, in a safe place, until police arrive.

    DO NOT allow another witness or media to contaminate your memory.

    DO NOT compare or discuss what you saw with another witness.

    Remember that your safety is paramount - but your assistance in this case is also necessary.

    For more information, contact, Media Services Division, (240) 773-5030.

48 posted on 10/17/2002 8:21:43 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: unix
Do you really think a few civilians running around with pistols would mean a bit of difference to these guys if they are terrorists?!

Really, snipers have been effective against whole platoons of guys with assault rifles! This sniper could reach out and touch you at 300 yards and you or anyone standing around your body couldn't hit a school bus at that distance with your pistol. Nine of his 11 victims have died instantly. So your weapon is no defense.

They could just as easily do this in Dallas or Miami or Atlanta or Los Angeles or Phoenix as in suburban Maryland and Virginia. Don't let your own bravado fool you.
49 posted on 10/17/2002 8:21:46 PM PDT by Pitchfork
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To: Ford Fairlane
Shall issue does no good - a pistol against a sniper is useless.


I see you don't shoot pistol worth a damn.

50 posted on 10/17/2002 8:21:49 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Mulder
I agree totally. The police in Maryland, DC, and Virginia should urge their residents to carry rifles, instead of ratting on their neighboors and acting like wusses

I need to second what you said...
In the area that I live, I would love, yes, LOVE, to have the folk carry slung rifles. I would, without doubt. The only reason we could not get away with it now without raising an uproar from the limo liberals that frequent the area and live in the posh tracked home communities is that crime is very low where I am at. Now, the nice thing is that Deer Widow's day is right around the corner. And after that, there's gonna be a WHOLE lot of armed folks in my area (Thank God)...

51 posted on 10/17/2002 8:22:29 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Rocksalt
>They seem to mainly aspire to multiple deaths at once,and this smaller scale stuff would seem mickey mouse against what they have shown themselves capable of in the past.

The attacks are effective and not 'too small' at all. Any grand attack would likely be a suicide mission and Al-Queda does not want to use up their sleepers more quickly than needed nor do they want to provoke mass deportations and lose the remaining sleepers.

52 posted on 10/17/2002 8:22:57 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: tubebender
There have been 86 killings in Oakland Ca so far this year. 2 more than all of last year.

It does pay to put this whole sniper thing into context. Nine unnecessary deaths is nine too many but viewed as another element of the total murder rate in this country it is not significant.

In fact, the risks you take when you drive your car are certainly much greater than then they are walking and shopping around Maryland and Virgina.

Here are the US Department of Transportation statistics:

"The fatality rate per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) decreased slightly. It was 1.52 in 2001, a small reduction from the final 2000 rate of 1.53. The total number of people killed in highway crashes in 2001 was 42,116, compared to 41,945 in 2000."

The bottom line is that the American people are not going to be intimidated by 1 sniper cell or twenty. We will survive this and we will hunt them down, every last one of them.

53 posted on 10/17/2002 8:24:21 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: GOP_Lady
"He also said they are well-positioned to predict how American leaders will react to certain threats."

This is no big task, leaders will jaw bone about white racist gun nuts, tolerance of all but white racist gun nuts, the religion of peace, how everything possible is being done to protect us, how attacks are "inevitable", and open the gates wider to immigrants and visa users from terrorist nations and lay out the welcome mat at the borders.

54 posted on 10/17/2002 8:25:36 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: InterceptPoint
Good post.
55 posted on 10/17/2002 8:25:43 PM PDT by GWfan
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To quote Tom Selleck - I didn't say I didn't know how to use one, I just said I've got no use for one (or something like that)

I'm ok within a reasonable range, but I prefer a rifle

Outside 50 ft, you can't gaurantee a good hit with a pistol

56 posted on 10/17/2002 8:25:45 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Ford Fairlane
"Oakland is scary - my great aunt lived in Richmond (i think that is the name) when we moved her back home to a nursing home, the Lawyers told us not even to come out, they hired people to sort thru the house & shipped anything of value back to us."

And, you believed these "Lawyers?" While I'm not that familiar with Richmond, it's north of Berkeley, which is north of Oakland. It's pretty far from the bad parts of Oakland; north Berkeley is a well-to-do area.
57 posted on 10/17/2002 8:25:59 PM PDT by BiffSchneider
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To: Ford Fairlane
"A pistol against a sniper is useless."

Unless the pistol carrier happens to come upon the sniper while he is in the act or the process of getting away. Obviously, the pistol won't do the victim any good, but neither would a rifle, right?
58 posted on 10/17/2002 8:26:34 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ford Fairlane
Where did you come up with this utter horsesh-t? Geezus man, if you don't know what you are talking about, please don't make it up!
59 posted on 10/17/2002 8:27:11 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Ford Fairlane
Depends on the range, but yea, I'll give you that

Pucker factor FF..Up until now, the Adam Henry has run un-opposed. Start slinging rounds "it's" way, well, suppressive fire and all...But again, I do have to agree, contending with a rifle and it's scope is hard news. If it was me, I would be expending rounds to get my fam to cover and concelament; nothing more...

60 posted on 10/17/2002 8:27:30 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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