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First person charged with voter fraud [in South Dakota]
KOTA-TV ^ | 10/18/2002 | Jack Siebold and Carl Agnelly

Posted on 10/18/2002 11:47:13 AM PDT by jpthomas

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To: Dog; Grampa Dave
It sure does scare them to death - it looks like they took down the whole website for KOTA TV; all that appears now:
51 posted on 10/18/2002 2:50:54 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: jpthomas
Nichols is one of two brothers hired by the Native American Voter Registration Project.

The guy was hired by a bunch of welfare recipients who are trying to manufacture votes for the DemonRats. You better believe that these welfare slugs are trying to keep the welfare benefits that those big bad Repubs want to take away. It's tough to work for a living when you're a raging alcoholic.

52 posted on 10/18/2002 2:55:49 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: jpthomas
I find it strange that the article does not mention what party affiliation was indicated on the bogus registration forms.
53 posted on 10/18/2002 2:59:46 PM PDT by semaj
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To: jpthomas
Yeah, but my question is this. Will anything be done to sort out the fraudulent registrations in time to prevent the fraud from tipping the election? You have to get up pretty early in the morning to beat the Rats at the vote fraud game. And they have stepped up their illegal efforts in virtually every state where there is a critical seat at stake. I am very concerned about this.
54 posted on 10/18/2002 3:04:09 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Phantom Lord
"Grill em for information and extract it from them through a plea deal or send them away for the Max amount possible."

I agree with you, but it seems our people don't have the stomach for that kind of head on challenge, and even if they did, with all the Rats on the bench, what kind of chance do we really have of defeating their efforts? They have the courts, the media, and the ignorance of the masses in their favor and are not constrained by laws, ethics or truth.

55 posted on 10/18/2002 3:07:04 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Texas dog; Texas Mom; MeeknMing
To: Texas Mom This scares me.. When I die, I could end up voting for a deomcrat..

LOL

You and I better be careful driving home tonight; we could end up voting for Ron Kirk.

Multiple times.

47 posted on 10/18/02 4:26 PM Central by Texas dog

Hey Meek, let's both drive careful, okay? I can't stand Sanchez and Kirk. :)

56 posted on 10/18/2002 3:14:46 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"Funny, I don't hear Senator Dash-hole asking for an investigation into this FRAUD."

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that investigation either. In fact, I heard a report while I was in Colorado that these were some of HIS people running the operation.

57 posted on 10/18/2002 3:17:27 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Texas Mom
The dead ALWAYS vote Rat!
58 posted on 10/18/2002 3:18:53 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: semaj
"I find it strange that the article does not mention what party affiliation was indicated on the bogus registration forms."

Hint: if it had been Republicans, the media would be billing it as the top story on every network. Since that is not the case, then we can assume that it is Rats and therefore not "newsworthy."

59 posted on 10/18/2002 3:23:09 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
The dead ALWAYS vote Rat!

It does seem that way doesn't it?

60 posted on 10/18/2002 3:55:16 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: B-bone
For anyone who has not been involved with a voter registration drive, let me tell you how it is supposed to work.

The ones who are sponsoring the drive (party, candidate, etc.) hire outside contractors to do the actual registering at malls, etc. paying a set amount of money for each registration. The outside contractors hire whomever they can get. Oftentimes whomever they can get for this temporary work are not exactly your upstanding pillars of the community types. :-) Also, some legit partisan groups also register to get "bounty" for each new registration.

The partisan groups generally don't have much of a problem with false afidavits, but the temp workers do. When I was involved in a massive voter registration drive here in CA, we had one person whose only job was to call the new "voters" to make sure that they were legit people. (Unfortunately, there is no way to tell if they are actually citizens, but at least you can see if the phone numbers match up to real people.)

When we found that one of our workers was padding his or her new registrations, that person got fired on the spot and blacklisted from doing registrations again.

BTW, I have a question. We have Indian tribes here in CA who can run gambling operations on their reservations because they are "sovereign nations." If the Indians are citizens of these "sovereign nations," how can they vote in US elections?? Enquiring minds need to know.... It seems to me that they are trying to have the best of both worlds.

61 posted on 10/18/2002 3:55:47 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: DadOfFour
Any self-respecting native American American Minority ought to see how they are being used by this ilk (dems) and reinforce the old hesistance to participate in the "white man politics" as some have been quoted in the press.

LVM

62 posted on 10/18/2002 3:58:06 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: jpthomas
Balony...she is NOT innocent. This is Democrat vote fraud. She got caught. Next comes the trusty old race card. She is STILL guilty...just trying to get out of it.
63 posted on 10/18/2002 4:02:03 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: xJones; Texas dog; Texas Mom
To: Texas Mom This scares me.. When I die, I could end up voting for a deomcrat..

LOL

You and I better be careful driving home tonight; we could end up voting for Ron Kirk.

Multiple times.

47 posted on 10/18/02 4:26 PM Central by Texas dog

Hey Meek, let's both drive careful, okay? I can't stand Sanchez and Kirk. :)

Yep ! No kiddin', lol !!


64 posted on 10/18/2002 5:19:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: xJones; Texas dog; Texas Mom



I'm a GOOD 'RAT !



65 posted on 10/18/2002 5:19:51 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
The punishment of the culprit is irrelevant at this point. What we need is publicity about Democrat fraud to scare 1,500 to 2,000 "moderate" SD Democrats into voting for Thune. It could come down to less than a 2,000-vote margin for Johnson at this time. Thune is doing the best that he can, as I see it.
68 posted on 10/18/2002 7:07:04 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: sweetliberty
ABSOLUTELY, if this were a Republican scandal, even the revered George Stanley McGovern would "come home" to denounce those "evil," "mean-spirited," "Watergate-loving" Republicans. By the way, Tom Daschle was once an aide to McGovern, much as AR Bill was once on the staff of Sen. J. William Halfbright. SD will be a tough nut to crack, but it can be done. I just fear that we will lose it by a narrow margin.
69 posted on 10/18/2002 7:11:52 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
"I just fear that we will lose it by a narrow margin."

Sadly, a narrow margin is all they need in too many key races and they are in no way above doing whatever will take them over the top.

70 posted on 10/18/2002 7:35:05 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: jpthomas
Unless this person gets more than a slap on the wrist, the evil democrats will continue with voter fraud, etc.... This was clearly evident in the last presidential election with all the exposed voter fraud and nothing happened to accused. Why do some criminals have rap sheets 4 pages long? Because there are no repercussions for the first three pages. The dems truly believe that the end justifies the means.
71 posted on 10/18/2002 9:50:36 PM PDT by doc
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To: flamefront
Explain to us what this means re KOTA TV; all that appears now:
No web site is configured at this address.

Was this an Indian TV station or a rat controlled station.
72 posted on 10/18/2002 10:38:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Texas Mom
Cripes you cost me some money. I have to drop my lawyer a to add to our new trust, "That I have never voted for a demonicRat while alive, and I will not be voting for one when I'm dead!"
73 posted on 10/18/2002 10:40:37 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
KOTA appeared to be 'rat controlled since Drudge and FR posted, or perhaps totally overloaded by hits caused the website to be totally unavailable this afternoon and early evening - now they and the article are back up, I see ...
but the story was mentioned on another station KSFY, and now that story is gone too.

(I don't know the stations or their biases, perhaps someone from S.D. can add comments.)

Now also this big news legal action is reported in the Rapid City Journal (and nowhere further yet) as follows captured for posterity:

One arrested for voter fraud

By Jim Holland, Journal Staff Writer

RAPID CITY -- As the Nov. 5 election looms in 17 days, a Rapid City man arrested Friday became the first South Dakotan facing charges in the expanding statewide probe of alleged voter-registration irregularities.

Lyle Duane Nichols, 45, faces five charges of forging voter-registration cards submitted to the Pennington County Auditor's Office through the Sioux Tribes Voter Education and Registration Committee.

The maximum penalty is five years in prison and a $5,000 fine for each felony count. Nichols is in Pennington County Jail pending his court arraignment.

"It appears the vast majority of cards he submitted through this organization were fraudulent," Pennington County Sheriff Don Holloway said. "It looks like what he was doing was picking names out of the phone book or out of the newspaper."

At least two of the registrations were made in the names of dead people, Holloway said.

The sheriff said it appeared that Nichols' motive for falsifying the cards was financial and not an attempt to swing the result of any of this year's tightly contested state election races.

Holloway said the committee paid Nichols $756 for submitting 226 voter-registration cards.

United Sioux Tribes executive director Clarence Skye said Nichols was one of about 24 consultants who were paid a stipend for each registration submitted.

The Pierre-based UST started the Native American Voter Education and Registration Project in late August with the help of a $200,000 grant from the Bauman Foundation in Washington, D.C.

"We're not responsible for that one person," Skye said. "If he wants to do wrong, that's his deal.

"Every one of them are instructed, 'If this isn't right, you're responsible,'" he said.

Holloway said Nichols received $3 for each of the first 20 cards submitted per day and $4 for each additional card submitted that day.

Paying a person to collect voter registrations or ballot petition signatures is not illegal.

Both Holloway and Chief Deputy Attorney General Larry Long said the registration system may need to be revamped in the aftermath of the investigation.

"I think this is an illustration of what happens when you pay people to register voters. It encourages this kind of falsification," Holloway said.

Long said dropping the requirements that voter registrations and absentee ballots be notarized officially also added to the potential for fraud.

"I think that certainly would have deterred this individual," he said.

Long said the state Legislature would have to address changes in voter-registration and absentee-ballot procedures.

"I know that's being discussed," he said.

Skye said project supervisor Mary Janis fired Nichols when problems with registration cards first surfaced at the Pennington County Auditor's Office in September.

Pennington County Auditor Julie Pearson said members of her staff noticed errors in birth dates and middle initials listed on two cards allegedly submitted by Nichols. Her staff happened to know two people listed.

Pearson and Holloway said that Skye and Janis have cooperated with the investigation.

"It doesn't appear that they're a part of this at all," Holloway said.

Officials say pushes for registered voters by political parties and other groups have added about 17,000 new voters to the state's rolls.

A contract employee for the state's Democratic Party, Becky Red Earth-Villeda, was fired after problems surfaced with absentee ballots and registrations in Dewey and Ziebach counties. (See related story on Page C5.)

Red Earth-Villeda was paid more than $12,000 in the past three months for administrative, voter-drive payments or travel expenses.

Long said Friday he wasn't aware of any charges filed in that case. She has denied any wrongdoing.

Other voter-registration irregularities are being investigated in Shannon, Fall River, Corson and Jackson Counties.

Long admitted a state and federal investigation of possible voter-registration fraud is expanding, but he declined to discuss details.

"It's more than 10 (counties)," he said Friday. "But I'm not at liberty to discuss it."

Contact reporter Jim Holland at 394-8415, or at jim.holland@rapidcityjournal.com


Copyright © 2002 The Rapid City Journal
Rapid City, SD


 
... hmmm more than 10 counties, expanding, wow.

74 posted on 10/19/2002 12:03:08 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: Theodore R.

75 posted on 10/19/2002 3:22:30 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: jpthomas
I think election tampering deserves a punishment of a revocation of U.S. citizenship and permanent exile. The election process is a fundamental part of what makes America what it is... someone who disrespects that so blatantly as to knowingly register ficticious/dead people doesn't deserve to stay in this country IMO.
76 posted on 10/19/2002 5:01:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: MeeknMing
Outstanding..
77 posted on 10/19/2002 6:22:22 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: kcvl
Becky Red Earth-Villeda

Wonder what the "Red Earth" means?

78 posted on 10/19/2002 6:30:26 AM PDT by copycat
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To: thoughtomator
Nowhere in these stories do I see the words..."All the fraudulent voter registrations, without exception, were Democrat."

Oh, and they might as well tack on "All the Al Queda sleeper cells discovered to date were registered Democrat."

79 posted on 10/19/2002 6:33:44 AM PDT by copycat
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To: MeeknMing
These are keepers...
80 posted on 10/19/2002 7:00:56 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: Teacher317
"I only wish that the ACTUAL election results for the past 100 years would be revealed by some Miracle. I'm not sure the Democrats would have even 80% of their current seats."

Good point. Voter fraud has been an effective mainstay in the dem campaign playbook for decades.
81 posted on 10/19/2002 10:10:48 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: Texas Mom
I've always said I'll vote Republican until the day I die, after that, I'll probably vote Democrat.
82 posted on 10/19/2002 10:42:12 AM PDT by stands2reason
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To: sierradove
The media is unashamedly on their side. Recall the Jim Jeffords news conference where he announced his important defection. There was a spontaneous standing ovation... however, the public was not invited to the announcement, since the room was only large enough for the media... that was the impartial press corps showing their joy at the switch.
83 posted on 10/19/2002 11:42:37 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Aunt Polgara
Throughout the state, there are massive voter registration drives being conducted by both political parties, tribal governments and national organizations. Nichols currently is the only person charged.

I agree both parties need to have voter registration drives. What I was trying to point out was that the way the story was written, the implication is that both voter registration drives were fraudulant but only the dems had been caught.

I don't accept this assumption that these drives are by definition fraudulant.

84 posted on 10/21/2002 4:10:12 PM PDT by B-bone
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