Gays Make Right Turn

Front Page Magazine ^ | October 18, 2002 | Joseph J. Sabia

[no dems]

You are wrong my friend. As a Spirit-filled, evangelical Pastor, I have counseled homosexuals who weep and sob and say "I can remember being like this since I was five years old." There is something to the genetics of it. Granted, many homosexuals choose that lifestyle but there are many who would love to be straight.

[rb22982]

Ok, then answer my question, where does the New Testament, more specifically Jesus, ask for man's law to prosecute those types of crimes.

[ApesForEvolution]

And what if monkeys fly out of Martina Navratilova's back end?

Homosexuality is a product of environment and omission of key ingredients in parenting.

To the extent that man is born in a fallen state since the fall of Adam & Eve, then man is born with a bent towards evil and perversion to begin with.

[FF578]

Libertarians please read this case:

Jesse Sharpless ... John Haines . .. George Haines ... John Steel . . . Ephraim Martin . . . and --- Mayo . . . designing, contriving, and intending the morals, as well of youth as of divers other citizens of this commonwealth, to debauch and corrupt, and to raise and create in their minds inordinate and lustful desires . . . in a certain house there . . . scandalously did exhibit and show for money ... a certain lewd ... obscene painting, representing a man in an obscene ... and indecent posture with a woman, to the manifest corruption and subversion of youth, and other] citizens of this commonwealth . . . offending . . . [the] dignity of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

The defendants have been convicted, upon their own confession, of conduct indicative of great moral depravity. . . . This court is ... invested with power to punish not only open violations of decency and morality, but also whatever secretly tends to undermine the principles of society. . .. Whatever tends to the destruction of morality, in general, may be punished criminally. Crimes are public offenses, not because they are perpetrated publicly, but because their effect is to injure the public. Burglary, though done in secret, is a public offense; and secretly destroying fences is indictable. Hence, it follows, that an offense may be punishable, if in its nature and by its example, it tends to the corruption of morals; although it be not committed in public.

The defendants are charged with exhibiting and showing . .. for money, a lewd . . . and obscene painting. A picture tends to excite lust, as strongly as a writing; and the showing of picture is as much a publication as the selling of a book. . . . If the privacy of the room was a protection, all the youth of the city might be corrupted, by taking them, one by one, into a chamber, and there inflaming their passions by the exhibition of lascivious pictures. In the eye of the law, this would be a publication, and a most pernicious one.

Although every immoral act, such as lying, etc., is not indict able, yet where the offense charged is destructive of morality in general ... it is punishable at common law. The destruction of morality renders the power of the government invalid. . . . The corruption of the public mind, in general, and debauching the manners of youth, in particular, by lewd and obscene pictures exhibited to view, must necessarily be attended with the most injurious consequences.. . . No man is permitted to corrupt the morals of the people; secret poison cannot be thus disseminated.

[FF578]

Pentecostals are not evangelical.

[FF578]

Perhaps you should refer them to exodus ministries.

[Double Tap]

Answer the question, with no spam, in your own words.

DO YOU ADVOCATE KILLING HOMOS, ADULTERERS AND FORNICATORS?

[HassanBenSobar]

Hmmm. Yeah, I read that Kandahar was the San Francisco of the muslim world. But the Talis were about as harsh as you can get...and they're just one example of many, many extremely anti-homo regimes throughout history that in spite of draconian efforts--utterly failed to stamp out homosexuality.

My point here is more that, hey, conservatives may not like homosexuality, and we don't have to, but why oppose those homosexuals who are ideologically (for the most part) on our side? If we insist on perfect allegiance to every conservative ideal, we are no better than the leftists who tolerate no dissenting VIEWS within their ranks, and who sanctimoniously look down upon those 'less ideologically pure' as 'reactionaries', or worse, enemies. Conservatives ought to rise above sectarian squabbles and accept people willing to support a break from the left. Even if we don't like what they do in the privacy of their own homes.

/Rant

[FF578]

Refer to my post #22. I already answered your question.

[FF578]

It worked in 1500's Geneva.

[HassanBenSobar]

Thank you, Mr. Genocide.

[Nick Danger]

Mainstream gays are beginning to understand that their political leadership is comprised of shrill, socialist anti-Americans who are willing to ally themselves with foreign governments that execute gays in order to enhance their domestic political power.

This article is the perfect example of why Dick Morris is wrong when he spews his "Browning of America dooms GOP" nonsense. This exact same thing is going to happen with Hispanics.

Democrats think they have this formula for dealing with "minorities." That formula depends on the minorities staying poor, feeling oppressed, and falling for some pretty outrageous rhetoric from self-appointed "community leaders" who always turn out to be leftists first and community advocates second... when they aren't just money-grubbing hustlers.

But if the "oppressed minorities" start making middle-class dough and learn how to read, they wander off the plantation grounds, wondering why the Hell they ever listened to those so-called 'community leaders' in the first place.

[rb22982]

Good luck ever being elected or having your ideals put into play.

[Double Tap]

Absolutely terrifying. You have represented yourself as a LEO on this forum, and yet you have demonstrated that you are mentally unstable, maybe even insane.

We have good men and women fighting in a far off land to rid a country of people like you. Thank goodness there are few of you.

I pity you.

[BlazingArizona]

Perhaps the GOP can set up a puptent just for you behind the Big Tent.

[rb22982]

LOL

[dogbyte12]

I am curious, bigot boy... since homosexuality didn't make the Letterman top 10 on God's list... why your hostility, other than your repressed nature?

God was more concerned about stealing, adultery, taking his name in vain, honoring mom and pop, than your pet issue. Shouldn't ya focus on God's 10 top peeves first before you express your self loathing, and fear of being attracted to people of your same sex?

[ItsJeff]

But if the "oppressed minorities" start making middle-class dough and learn how to read... wondering why the Hell they ever listened to those so-called 'community leaders' in the first place.

And then along comes FF578 and his ilk, sending 'em all back to the Dems with arms stretched and checkbooks open.

[Calico Cat]

I agree--tax policy is the reason for this. Gay MEN tend to be better-educated than average and make more money. If they pair up, they have double incomes and most of them have no kids. Gay men are just like me and thee--they like to keep the money they earn.

Gay women are a different story; many of them are attracted to lower-wage jobs (social work, non-profits) and tend to be more reliably lefty in their sympathies.

[Calico Cat]

I'm never going to understand why a few people on this board tend to 'lose it' when the subject is homosexuality. My attitude: as long as you're not harming somebody else or involving underage people, your business is your own.