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As expected, 480 Lincoln Goodyear jobs headed south
The Lincoln Journal Star (Nebraska) ^ | Saturday, Oct. 19, 2002 | RODD CAYTON

Posted on 10/19/2002 1:29:09 PM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Willie Green
Mexico is starting to have the same concerns we do. Firms that initially moved to Mexico, are shutting down and moving operations to China, India or Central America, to the tune of 400,000 jobs lost.

What goes round comes round.
22 posted on 10/19/2002 8:49:51 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Willie Green
BOYCOTT
NASCAR

Until NASCAR announces it disassociation with this turncoat company that became what it is through the wallet of the American worker/consumer, there is no compelling reason for me to give a damn about anyone who gives prime time attention to the Goodyear 'Made In Mexico' image.

Does NASCAR, or any real American want to be pictured with a turncoat that has backstabbed the single greatest market consumer - gullible enough to trust and believe Goodyear was an America First company?????

Listen up NASCAR....Goodyear is a gutter scum anti-American economy slime ball!!!!!

You are who you associate with......Put up or shut down!!!

There is no fender/fence/wall for you to sit on in this fight. You are for us, or you are against us!!!

You fly the American flag, but is it there as a sign of allegiance, or is it there as a used-car lot prop to sucker a profit???

You play the American anthem before each race, but are you willing to walk the walk?

PUT UP OR SHUT DOWN
NASCAR!!!!!

23 posted on 10/21/2002 2:17:38 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: Willie Green
Giant-Sucking-Sound Bump!

The elitists' American dream -- paying $12.77 a day for labor in the USA.


24 posted on 10/21/2002 9:38:21 AM PDT by JoeMomma
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To: Willie Green
The money would go toward job retraining, income support while in training and job-search assistance.

Why do they need job retraining? The good folks at Lincoln NE did their jobs okay. The only sin the Lincoln workers committed was earning a decent wage to support their families.

This typical of the political/elite class's contention that American workers just aren't good enough. By going for cheap labor and subsidized businesses/industries outside the US, folks like Goodyear are only propping up socialist and communist economies.

25 posted on 10/21/2002 9:42:07 AM PDT by JoeMomma
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To: bert
bert, i'm not worried about myself or my family, we're doing just fine. i certainly appreciate your concern but you do seem like a cold SOB. there are some people who have tried to care for their families (and let's face it, not everyone can be as brilliant and accomplished as you) and find that 20 years of loyalty to an employer is meaningless as jobs are lost to third world hellholes.
26 posted on 10/21/2002 11:37:48 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: bert
You have a computer and some skills, put them to work from your home.

Yeah, there's plenty of growth opportunity in the high-tech telecom/dotbomb sector, yadda, yadda, yadda...
Maybe everybody can be retrained as web page designers. </sarcasm>

27 posted on 10/21/2002 11:43:44 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
lol!!!

but seriously are those jobs that were lost "on the wings of Goodyear?"
28 posted on 10/21/2002 11:51:12 AM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Willie Green
Maybe everybody can be retrained as web page designers

They are in demand.

29 posted on 10/21/2002 12:16:49 PM PDT by bert
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To: bert
They are in demand.

Only by diploma mills who're peddling "degrees" in web-page design.

30 posted on 10/21/2002 12:24:31 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
The giant sucking sound continues to roar.

What sucks is stupid union work rules that drive companies away.

Belt cutter Tom Day might lose his job because a hose worker has more seniority? Sounds really logical to me. After all, seniority is more important than job performance, or skills, or knowledge, right?

Baloney.

Here in our NON-union manufacturing plant, our workers average more than lawyers. When one of our product lines goes away, we find another. But then we're "right to work", and non-performers have a very short tenure - measured in minutes - regardless of seniority.

Americans can still out-manufacture anybody in the world, on any product, when we use our ingenuity and individualism to our advantage. Stifled by silly work rules and "seniority", expect to see more plants move where the labor is cheaper. Drones that perform rote jobs within a narrow scope by fixed rules ain't hard to find. They aren't expensive, either.

31 posted on 10/21/2002 12:33:16 PM PDT by jimt
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To: jimt
Drones that perform rote jobs within a narrow scope by fixed rules ain't hard to find. They aren't expensive, either.

Actually, employees with a suitable aptitude can be quite difficult to find.
Even "dull, repetitive, rote" jobs often require significant training in operation/maintenance of sophisticated equipment to maximize utilization and productivity.
Your lack of understanding and personal disdain for this facet of manufacturing serves to illustrate your own shortcomings as a member of an "Industrial Advisory Committee".

32 posted on 10/21/2002 12:57:25 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: TheSpottedOwl
It could be NAFTA, but it could be the Unions too.

I think corporate America is sick of being strong-armed by Unions, which in essence is driving the cost of business up. I'm not anti-Union, but I'm not desirous of sending every American job to Mexico because the Unions want to play hardball. In a soft economy - you'd better take what you can get.

Go ahead, flame away.

33 posted on 10/21/2002 1:01:09 PM PDT by daniel boob
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To: Willie Green
Making hoses must be really low tech work for it to go to Mexico.

Next January's annoucement will be the plant in Mexico has been moved to Red China and the 480 laid-off Mexican workers are crossing the Rio Grande to collect unemployment.

34 posted on 10/21/2002 1:05:32 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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Hey, I know! Let's pass a law and force Goodyear to keep their American plants open.
35 posted on 10/21/2002 1:08:54 PM PDT by IowaHawk
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To: CWRWinger
Making hoses must be really low tech work for it to go to Mexico.

If you're not familiar with factory operations, I think you'd be surprised at how sophisticated some of the equipment can be to enable companies to profitably crank-out such a high volume of product while continuously improving quality and reducing cost, all the while complying with ever more stringent OSHA and EPA regulations.

36 posted on 10/21/2002 1:21:47 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
These companies no longer have any allegiance to America or the American people......It's a sell out!
37 posted on 10/21/2002 1:24:54 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: marron
"But opening your markets to Chinese slave labor is suicide. If even $1 an hour Mexican labor is too expensive, because you're competing with prison workers, a moral line has been crossed."

So you're not buying Levi products any more either then? I watched Levi (when I used to deal with them years ago) close their U.S. plants and move them to Mexico. Now all the U.S. plants are gone and they are moving the Mexican plants to China. It's amazing. We go from cheap to slave labor but the consumer does not care. Not until we end up in a war with China and the cheap crap is no longer available. Then the consumer will pine about the "good old days".
38 posted on 10/21/2002 1:29:36 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: daniel boob
It could be NAFTA, but it could be the Unions too. I think corporate America is sick of being strong-armed by Unions, which in essence is driving the cost of business up.

Good point. I'm pretty ignorant on how unions are run. For me, unions still equal the "mob". Whenever the subject of unions comes up on here, I pay attention. Minimum wage laws could also be part of the problem...

39 posted on 10/21/2002 1:35:11 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl
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To: Iscool
[Sure, makeing vehicles that most people won't be able to afford...And, watching the profits head to Japan...Yea, that's the answer...]

Yes, and how many of those will be illegal aliens or 'skilled worker immigrants'?

40 posted on 10/21/2002 1:44:12 PM PDT by nanny
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