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various links | 10-20-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 10/20/2002 5:38:34 AM PDT by backhoe

Here is a partial selection of articles & stories we have on Vote Fraud-- you can, of course, click here:
VOTE FRAUD; access the entire database.
What is signifigant- perhaps critical and unique- about this election is how these stories appeared before the election. Normally, they surface too late to do anything about them.
MD. Dem Guv candidate summons dead early
NBC eve. news
"The reporter DID say that polls showed it may be "backfiring" some fifty-odd percent to twenty-eight percent...."
E-mailed Press Release | 10-19-2002 | 1st Freedom
"We need to start putting people in jail for vote fraud. They are destroying our Constitution. "
"Yikes! I hope the Colorado Republican Party is paying close attention to this. There are a number of close races in Colorado which could be lost due to this kind of fraud."
Some Voters Seeing Double
Rocky Mountain News ^ | October 19, 2002 | Peggy Lowe
"Can you say fraud?"
10/18/ 02
"This is really unfair. Once again, the lack of statehood for DC is depriving us of our rightful honors in this regard. We even elect two "senators" and have them on the District payroll, just like we would if we were a real state. "
'U.S. Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, Florida Democrat, said the governor would suffer politically if he removed Miss Oliphant at that time.
That's what we need; an impeached federal judge turned congressman lecturing the governor of Florida.'
NY POST ^ | October 19, 2002 | ARNOLD ALHERT
"Unlock and load ... unlock your car and load up voters, take them to the poll and vote in record numbers, for anyone but democrats. This is war, and we the people MUST fight with our votes..."
First person charged with voter fraud [in South Dakota]
KOTA-TV ^ | 10/18/2002 | Jack Siebold and Carl Agnelly
"Voter fraud is a massive criminal enterprise..."
"It's so nice to see this coming out BEFORE an election for a change! We had massive fraud in WI last time, yet our liberal AG refused to investigate. I've often wondered where all these left wing votes come from, since so few people I know will admit to being Dems. It seems now we know - they vote in several states, they entice homeless bums to vote with free smokes, the dead vote... the list goes on and on.... "
"Too bad for the Council for a Livable World, which has raised $65,000 for Shaheen. The group’s Web site lists her as “a supporter of arms control” and says “She disagrees with President Bush’s mid-December decision to withdraw from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.” '
"Maybe the national press isn't covering the story but my aunt in SD called my mom this a.m. and this is probably the first time in her lifetime where somebody's been caught with their hand in the cookie jar - the dems..."
Voter registration FRAUD in Minnesota
AP ^ | 10/17/02 | Steve Karnowski Associated Press Writer
18 new voting machines go missing in Broward
Sun -Sentinal ^ | 10/17/02 | Buddy Nevins and Scott Wyman
Examples of Democrat fraud in the 2000 Election
Again, this only scratches the surface-- click  VOTE FRAUD; to see the extent of this swindle.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 2004; 229; absentee; ballot; electionfraud; fraud; frlibrarians; pledge; tpd; votefraud; voterfraud
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Colo. Judge Grudgingly Approves Machine Vote (Admits the Machines are Flawed)--once there's an investigation, you're toast. It's even easier to find the culprit because, as you say, a single person can pull this off and the chain of custody is a matter of record.
541 posted on 09/26/2006 3:22:15 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Maybe Election Day Won't be a Fiasco After All; Paper Audit Trail in 27 States
542 posted on 09/27/2006 11:55:08 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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John Fund's book, Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy.

My thoughts on the subject can be found here.

543 posted on 09/28/2006 1:33:06 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Democrats Call on Republicans to Ensure Fair and Impartial Elections--You can't say they lack a certain sense of irony...
544 posted on 09/29/2006 1:52:09 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Of all this voter fraud how many of the perpetrators have spent time in jail?
545 posted on 09/29/2006 1:55:31 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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Of all this voter fraud how many of the perpetrators have spent time in jail?

Darn few- it's not here, but we had a case in the local area who just got out of a 90-day sentence for "irregularities" at his polling station. No mention of party...

546 posted on 09/29/2006 4:18:22 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Paper Trails At The Voting Booth

E. J. Dionne tackles the controversy over electronic voting machines that has arisen since their rushed implementation following the 2000 presidential election. Dionne argues that a little paranoia isn't always a bad thing:

Sometimes, paranoids are right. And sometimes even when paranoids are wrong, it's worth considering what they're worried about.

I speak here of all who are worried sick that those new, fancy high-tech voting systems can be hacked, fiddled with and otherwise made to record votes that aren't cast or fail to record votes that are.

I do not pretend to know how large a threat this is. I do know that it's a threat to democracy when so many Americans doubt that their votes will be recorded accurately. And I also know that smart, computer-savvy people are concerned about these machines.

The perfectly obvious thing is for the entire country to do what a number of states have already done: require paper trails so that if we have a close election or suspect something went wrong, we have the option to go back and check the results.

For most of us, the perfectly obvious thing was to question why a balloting process that had been in use for decades had to be tossed aside simply because one party didn't like the outcome of the race. In California, we had used the butterfly ballot for decades; we had one in every election in which I voted. The punch-card ballots made it very easy to ensure that my vote was recorded correctly, and booth instructions warned voters to check that all chads got properly cleared from the ballot before filing it.

All of a sudden, because of one close election, American voters suddenly discovered that the venerable punch-card ballot was the gravest threat to democracy since Huey Long and J. Edgar Hoover. Rather than comprehend that every election will have its share of voters who do not follow instructions, reformers insisted that our freedom hinged on our ability to provide a voting system that would protect us from our own incompetence. These reformers -- including many of the same people who now object to the electronic voting machines -- proclaimed the electronic machine the savior of the electoral process.

However, the reformers didn't take into consideration that the system they hailed simply wasn't ready for prime time. Diebold rushed it to market, unmindful of security problems and internal errors in its programming. It occasionally misrecorded votes, and voters had no way to check its output. For most products, this would mean more R&D and a few more trials to determine reliability. In time, this could have been an excellent product -- and the punch-card system had enough reliability to give it that time, under normal circumstances. Instead, reformers insisted that local governments buy these new and flawed systems by the thousands, wasting millions of dollars and ruining Diebold's reputation.

Dionne is right, but he fails to mention the paranoia that fueled this laughable cycle of so-called electoral reform. Paranoia is never a good basis for public policy, and neither is panic. The reason we find ourselves in the situation Dionne rightly decries is because a bunch of sore losers convinced a large number of people to buy into their paranoia and forced a change that turned out badly.

As for me, I live in Minnesota, where we use an optical-scan ballot. We use a black pen to fill in the circles for our desired candidates, and then we put the ballot into a reader. If the ballot has an error, it spits it out and we re-do it. If not, we see the reader accept the ballot and we leave, secure in the knowledge that our vote will be counted. Maybe the rest of the country might catch up with us by the time we host the Republican National Convention in 2008.

Posted by Captain Ed at 06:34 AM | Comments (25) "I would tell the dems to take the issue and stuff it. They fabricated this crisis in democracy out of whole cloth when they got caught ballot box stuffing in 2000 in Florida. The only real problem, now that we know we have > 12,000,000 illegal residents of this country is voter identity fraud. The dems have resisted every attempt at reform of this real problem while they pretend outrage over the current problem. The normal background noise of the dems stealing elections, as they did in Washington state, is bad enough. The tradition of ballot stuffing in the African American areas is by now old news.
The overwhelming of our system due to the dem's encouraging non-citizen voters to vote is, however new. Until they get a conscience and follow it and permit real voter IDs, they should get nothing."

547 posted on 10/10/2006 1:29:45 PM PDT by backhoe
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Suspect voter registration cards found in St. Louis(Acorn Doing VOTER FRAUD Again!!!!)
548 posted on 10/12/2006 3:33:57 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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549 posted on 10/15/2006 3:38:16 AM PDT by backhoe (A Nuke for every Kook- what a Clinton "legacy...")
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550 posted on 10/18/2006 4:17:09 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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Bump for backhoe's voluminous research. Where do you find the time? Thanks!
551 posted on 10/18/2006 4:23:19 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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Thanks for looking.

552 posted on 10/19/2006 4:07:11 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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The ACLU's Support Of Voter Fraud
Massive Voter Manipulation?
Why Are Democrats Opposed To A Photo ID to Vote? (Flashback 2002)

553 posted on 10/19/2006 10:59:46 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Former Maryland delegate gets purported Diebold code--It all boils down to this people. The democrats have a much harder time stuffing ballot boxes with the computer system than they do with punch cards and the other more primitive voting systems, so the democrats want to discredit the computer system so that they can go back to the old system which is much easier to cheat with. It is as simple as that.
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Dems Smell Victory -- Or Is That The Smell Of Voter Fraud?
555 posted on 10/20/2006 12:25:56 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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"Voter fraud may be an issue," (yes, I believe that's quite true, and Gateway Pundit is the genius at keeping track of it, and not just in St. Louis. Voter fraud does seem to be a predominantly leftish proclivity)

Links to this post:

  Funniest Headline EVER!  
I read this headline and almost died laughing:. GOP Losses Could Spark Partisan Warfare. Because clearly we’ve been living through an era of sweetness and light as far as politics and political theater are concerned. ...
posted by TheAnchoress @ 2:30 PM
  Can I See ID, Please? Part 2  
I missed this Nate Koppel post at the Political Forecast yesterday concerning the requirement of showing a valid picture ID when voting passing the House. This is typical crybaby Democrat BS. Nate Koppel must be completely ignorant of ...
posted by Editor @ 10:58 PM
  Can I See ID, Please?  
Krusty on Jim Nussle's plan to require poll workers to check photo IDs:. What are people like Gordon [Fischer] and John Deeth afraid of? I used my credit card today and the lady asked to see my ID. If I went to the store to buy a six ...
posted by Editor @ 7:40 AM
  How to steal an election using an automated voting machine  
From Gizmodo:. Some Princeton researchers made a demonstration video of how it's possible to steal an election with a Diebold voting machine in under a minute. Anyone with physical access to the machine can put in malicious software to ...
posted by john marzan @ 11:04 PM
  GIZMODO has a post, and video, on how to steal an election with a ...  
GIZMODO has a post, and video, on how to steal an election with a Diebold voting machine. While I think that most of the "stolen election" claims are a mix of sour grapes and conspiracy theory, I think that we'd be much better off going ...
posted by @ 9:05 PM
  Interior Official & Democrat Charged in Abramoff Scandal  
Another day, and sadly, another Democrat caught up in a "culture of corruption." The Washington Post reports:. An Interior Department official who has acknowledged receiving meals and tickets to sporting events from former lobbyist Jack ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 9:34 AM
  Dem. Mayor Keeps Your Water Running for "Cleaning His Pipes"  
The 72 year old Democratic Mayor paid $25 per sexual encounter and $60 for a late water deposit! Drip... Drip... Drip... Here is another story where you may have missed that the mayor trading "sex for water service" was a democrat ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 6:25 AM
  Cluelessness in Security  
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: Diebold! “For there to be a problem here, you’re basically assuming a premise where you have some evil and nefarious election officials who would sneak in and introduce a piece of software,” [David Bear ...
posted by Jeff Licquia @ 9:49 AM
  Sending a Message  
Kudos to the Milwaukee judge who recognized that this crime went beyond mere vandalism and was an attack on Democracy. You may recall hearing about other voter shenanigans in East St. Louis. I couldn’t find any information on whether ...
posted by Mark Shelden @ 8:10 PM
  Dem. Mollohan Steps Off Ethics Committee for Unethical Behavior  
But, that unethical behavior sure made him rich! The Democratic Leader of the House Ethics Committee has seen his assets increase by at least 1000 percent in four years. (This was skipped over today in the news on Rep. Mollohan.) ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 7:06 PM
  Democrat Mollohan Sees Assets Increase by 1000% in 4 Years!  
Wow! Forget politics! Alan Mollohan should have his own infomercial! Democratic Representative Alan Mollohan is being investigated after it was discovered that his assets have increased by at least 1000 percent in four years: ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 6:31 AM
  The Anchoress explains  
This post by the Anchoress about why she has grown weary of the current political debate and stopped writing begins like this:. "But really, I’m not writing because…well, it’s all beginning to feel a little futile, isn’t it? ...
posted by Diane Meyer @ 8:30 AM
  A most righteous rant  
One that ought to be read more than once:. The daily grind of news is essentially the same. Bush is an antiquated manly sort who is also bad, evil, incompetent, hitler, a terrorist etc, etc. How will Democrats regain power (without ...
posted by RickinVa @ 8:17 PM
  Anchoress, why aren’t you writing?  
I’m getting all these emails… “Anchoress, you depressed?” “Anchoress, your computer on the fritz?” “Anchoress, why aren’t you writing…” Aside from being busy, as indicated yesterday [edited for clarity] I have felt disinclined to ...
posted by TheAnchoress @ 12:12 PM
  US - Stop the Election Day cheating  
Moans ROBERT STEINBACK in the Miami Herald. Stienback picks Ohio as his showcase example of how the Republicans cheated in the 2004 elections. There's just one problem with that. The Democrats own investigation found that, ...
posted by Marc @ 7:17 AM
  No More Plotting Murder, Pimping, Vote Buying for This Democrat  
The murder plotting, vote buying, prostitute pimpin' (from City Hall) Democrat was sentenced today. The St Louis Post Dispatch reported that Kelvin Ellis was sentenced today . The former code-enforcement chief from East St. Louis "was ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 3:39 PM
So... I don't have a clue what's up with these. Everything else on the computer seems to work just fine. Maybe I need to break down and upgrade. Bleh. In other news...the Devil has his day, the Holocaust didn't happen, San Francisco is ...
posted by demonicgerbil @ 11:38 AM
  Get a lawyer  
If you're an overzealous 20-something political operative caught up in a rapidly expanding scandal, Hugh Hewitt has some kindly advice. 20-somethings make mistakes. But the last four years, the Democratic leadership has created a ...
posted by @ 11:04 AM
  Convicting Democrats is New St. Louis Pastime  
Friday, July 01, 2005 At least 16 St. Louis area Democrats have been found guilty of election crimes in the last 7 months! biggest vote fraud case in the St. Louis area's history: Convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit vote ...
posted by Robert @ 3:25 PM
  Voter Fraud  
I’ve sort of wanted to blog about this for some time but, as Joe noticed, things are so slow news-wise that it seems like as good a political topic as any. Every few weeks since November 2000 a story like this makes its way into ...
posted by Andrew @ 9:40 PM
  Convicted Vote Fraud Defendant Says More Dems Should Be Charged  
Sheila Thomas, convicted of vote fraud last month in East St. Louis, says high ranking Democrats should also face a jury. Sheila Thomas is the first of five convicted defendants of vote fraud in East St. Louis to make a public statement ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 12:42 AM
  The Political Law Of Gravity  
Two objects - or parties - do not necessarily plummet at the same velocity:. A poll on the political mood in the United States conducted by the Democratic Party has alarmed the party at its own loss of popularity. ...
posted by JAS @ 11:40 PM
  Random thoughts  
A pretty significant alliance between the US and India. You would think that this would be much bigger news, especially given the rivalry between India and Pakistan and India and China. Convictions in the East St Louis voter fraud trial ...
posted by Steve @ 9:15 AM
  Britain - Fisking the Guardain  
Scott does a great job of fisking Simon Tisdale's nonsense. Snipptet. Then Tisdale even has the gall to claim that it is Bush’s advisors who are fostering domestic political hostility. "Off-stage, Mr Bush's chief adviser, Karl Rove, ...
posted by Marc @ 4:09 AM
  Convicting Democrats is New St. Louis Pastime  
At least 16 St. Louis area Democrats have been found guilty of election crimes in the last 7 months! 5 Democrats were convicted of vote fraud Wednesday in East St. Louis Sheila Thomas hugs Defense Attorney Paul Sims yesterday. ...
posted by Gateway Pundit @ 2:27 AM
  Remember Voter Fraud?  
5 convictions were obtained in a voter fraud investigation in East St Louis. I guarantee the MSM won't be as interested in this case as they have been in Jesse Jackson and John Kerry's Ohio assertions, since this was fraud on behalf of ...
posted by Teflon @ 7:34 PM
  "Guilty" Verdict in Voter Fraud Trial  
From Gateway Pundit: "Guilty" Verdict in ESL Voter Fraud Trial Oops. It's one thing to be accused, it is something completely different to be found guilty on all counts.
posted by jcrue @ 6:49 PM
  When Election Fraud Catches Up  
Powerline referred me to this site which reveals an unbelievable level of voter fraud in Illinois. Paying voters up to $10 per vote, among other things. Amazing. Also, there's an attempted murder charge, as one of our heroes tried to ...
posted by Lawjedi @ 4:26 PM
  Democrats Convicted of Voter Fraud!  
Widespread voter fraud was being committed in East St. Louis, Missouri! You may not have heard about it because the voter fraud was committed Democrats! What's more is that the center of the voter fraud involved elected and appointed ...
posted by The Mote and Beam @ 3:48 PM
  It’s About Time  
For all the noise that we heard last year from Demoncrats whining that Bush stole the election in 2000 it’s good to see some action for what happened in St. Louis in 2000 where there were several instances of voter fraud, ...
posted by Bob England @ 2:13 PM
  In Case You're Wondering...  
...when I talk about city machines, I mean this:; voter fraud; prostitution rings; attempted murder of federal witnesses; And you thought Bill the Butcher was dead, dint'cha? Alas, no. He's changed colors, but not methods, ...
posted by Andrew @ 12:40 PM
  Voter Fraud Convictions In East St. Louis  
Gateway Pundit has a summary and story collection regarding five Democrats found guilty of voter fraud. The convictions were for conduct that included paying for voters to vote Democratic in the November 2, 2004 elections. ...
posted by KJ @ 12:28 PM
  Democrat Voter Fraud Convictions  
Not that I'm terribly surprised, but despite its national implications, none of the coastal-liberal papers (New York Times, Boston Globe, LA Times, Seattle Post-Intelligencer, SFO Chronicle, etc.) give even a line-item mention of the ...
posted by Kobayashi Maru @ 11:16 AM
  Democrats Found Guilty  
We always hear the Democrats complaining that Republicans are guilty of voter fraud but I can’t recall any Republican being convicted of it. But from PowerLine we have this story about Democrats being convicted of voter fraud. ...
posted by Frank Hogg @ 10:04 AM
  Democrats Convicted of Vote Fraud  
Gateway Pundit has the details (via Michell Malkin). One of the guilty Democrats has an attempted murder trial to follow. Seems the Democratic politician was running a prostitution ring from City Hall and he wanted to murder a witness ...
posted by Stan @ 9:49 AM
- Using racial slurs against each other during legislative debates over flying the flag. - Getting convicted for election fraud in East St. Louis. - And starting to dislike themselves more than Republicans do: ...
posted by malkin @ 8:52 AM
  Thursday Morning Bloggy Goodness  
Well, Democrats in St. Louis have been convicted of attempted murder and election fraud. They've also resorted to using racial slurs in discussing whether residents could fly the flag. The Mexican government issued overtly racist ...
posted by J-Red @ 8:28 AM
  Decapitation strike on the Land of the Dead  
Across the ditch over in Illinois, where the dead have been rising to cast votes for Democrats for well over 40 years, Democratic Party officials in East St. Louis have been found guilty of voter fraud. Don't drop the soap, fellas.
posted by Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit @ 7:48 AM
  Round Up All the Rope in Texas...  
Convictions in the East St. Louis voter fraud trial. Good. I'd like to see a whole lot more convictions for this kind of stuff, til people take it seriously and understand that elections should be fair and follow the rules.
posted by mellow drama @ 7:43 AM
  Morning Links 6/30  
Good Morning. ChristWeb has the Christian Carnival up. Lots to read. Wretchard at Belmont Club tells the tale of a little known (lost) campaign of WWII. He also writes about willing blindness and unwillingness to face sometimes ugly ...
posted by mark @ 7:26 AM
  Convictions For Actual Voter Fraud  
As opposed to the non-existent fraud that so many Democrats think took place in Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000. From Editor & Publisher:. "We have been chasing them down as they come up, and a lot of them are so groundless," said Doug ...
posted by Giacomo @ 6:01 AM
  Thursday's tidbits  
The captain:. The Dumbest Controversy Ever By Captain Ed on National Politics The New York Times eats up several column inches on what has to be the pettiest controversy of recent memory -- The Case Of The Missing Applause. ...
posted by bob (a.) @ 5:50 AM
  Item number 7 on RTE News tonight...  
Not. Now, if this had happened in Florida, and these guys were Republicans, it might be a different story.
posted by John McGuirk @ 4:23 AM
  Five Bucks Will Getcha A Vote  
Here's the full text of a link by Hinderacker at PowerLine:. Democratic Party officials in East St. Louis, Illinois have been convicted of massive voter fraud in last November's election. The local jury convicted them of, ...
posted by Laer @ 12:25 AM
  Democrats Convicted In Illinois  
Of massive vote fraud. Will murder follow?
posted by joe @ 11:53 PM
  Looking For Voter Fraud? Check East St. Louis  
Huh. Five Democratic party officials in East St. Louis, IL have been convicted of election fraud. Big, bad election fraud. Not alleged, but convicted. Wholesale fraud, paying people to vote, the attempted murder of a government witness, ...
posted by Ryne McClaren @ 11:33 PM
  2005 Voter Fraud Convictions  
Yes Virginia, there was voter fraud in the 2005 election ... and it was Democrat organized. Four of the defendants -- Jessie Lewis, Sheila Thomas, Yvette Johnson and former city official Kelvin Ellis -- were found guilty of conspiracy ...
posted by AlexC @ 11:00 PM
  RE: Let's Start Putting People In Jail  
A couple days after the Presidential election I said the Republicans won and they should start putting people in jail. I didn't care if it was R's or D's throwing people in jail, just that lots and lots of people committed ...
posted by @ 9:33 PM
  The Best Democracy Money Can Buy  
Gateway Pundit reports on the felony convictions of five Democratic party officials for paying voters $10 each to vote for Democratic candidates in the 2004 elections. Only in East St. Louis, folks. (Or at least I hope so.) ...
posted by Spartacus @ 8:28 PM
  East St. Louis’s Boss Tweed heading to the hoosegow

"Bush is eerily calm..." There are seeds of all sorts of ideas being planted in these final weeks before the election, so that no matter what actually sprouts up on election day (or post-election) each story harvested can claim to have been "predicted" by someone. Politics in the 21st century is pure insanity. In my morbid curiosity, I cannot look away.

Crossposted at The Anchoress Online.

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"Oh, yeah. You can see all the chauffeurs being sent out to man the barricades."

556 posted on 10/23/2006 3:45:43 AM PDT by backhoe
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Electronic Voting Machines Could Skew Elections (Election Stealing Conspiracy Alert!)

557 posted on 10/23/2006 7:59:13 AM PDT by backhoe
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E-Voting Bites

558 posted on 10/24/2006 6:47:03 AM PDT by backhoe
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ACORN accused of more bogus election forms
Voter Registration Fraud by Liberal Advocacy Group (ACORN) Goes Virtually Unreported

559 posted on 10/25/2006 11:55:26 AM PDT by backhoe
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Staying in touch ping.

560 posted on 10/25/2006 11:58:04 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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