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In pictures: Mrs Albright's visit (to North Korea)
| Monday, 23 October, 2000
Posted on 10/20/2002 10:43:44 AM PDT by McGruff
Monday, 23 October, 2000, 18:33 GMT 19:33 UK
North Korea is taking the first steps towards a new era
after five decades of hostility, with a visit by US
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
A smiling Kim Jong-il said he was "really happy" to meet a US official for the first time
But the two looked tense during the official photocall
Mrs Albright delighted children by joining in their dance at a welcome ceremony
The US guest was taken along largely deserted streets on a tour of the capital
Sailors performed a dance routine with flags for the North Korean leader and Mrs Albright at a stadium in Pyongyang
Thousands of dancers celebrated the US secretary of state's visit
Across the border in South Korea broadcasters broke into their schedules to show live pictures of Mrs Albright's historic visit
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
posted on 10/20/2002 10:43:44 AM PDT
Wait there's more
Tuesday, 24 October, 2000, 15:29 GMT 16:29 UK
N Korea's dramatic turnaround
Albright clinking glasses with the "Dear Leader"
By diplomatic correspondent Barnaby Mason
The reported willingness of the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, to restrain his country's long-range missile programme would be another step in meeting the worries of the United States and other western states.
The American Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, said after her unprecedented talks with Mr Kim in Pyongyang that she took his remarks as showing a serious desire to resolve a range of issues relating to missiles.
On the face of it, there has been a dramatic turnaround.
posted on 10/20/2002 10:49:32 AM PDT
DPRK-U.S.A. Relations Enter New Era
U.S. Secretary of State Officially Visits Pyongyang
As the first official trip to Pyongyang of a high-ranking U.S. official, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright set foot on Pyongyang on the early morning of October 23.
This suffices to indicate that long-standing hostilities between the DPRK and the U.S. started to be melted into a friendly relation
posted on 10/20/2002 10:52:59 AM PDT
God, how the world laughed at the USA during the Clinton years. Time after time, Clinton would perform outrageous diplomatic blunders, clearly againt US interests, while our enemies smirked and feigned cordial accord. Remember the African Apology Tour, the endless stumping for the Nobel Peace Prize and appeasements of alQueda? We were the laughing stock in the nineties.
So when I hear from friends on the left that the USA is now the worrisome target of universal hand wringing and finger wagging for GWB's "cowboy" tactics, I can only stifle a giggle. I prefer a cowboy to an immature clown.
Yikes. Could those sailors look any more gay?
posted on 10/20/2002 10:56:56 AM PDT
Is this the national symbol of North Korea -- The hammer, sickle, and incoming ICBM ??
posted on 10/20/2002 10:59:14 AM PDT
Their last declaration, concerning their "Secret Nuke Program", makes it obvious why they were so happy.
And from TIME for kids online
Madeleine Albright and North Korea's leader, Kim Jong II, share a toast during dinner.
For U.S. leaders, North Korea had long been a forbidden land. No high-ranking U.S. official had ever set foot there. Last week Secretary of State Madeleine Albright paid a historic two-day visit to the country. She met with its leader, Kim Jong Il, and attended a huge rally.
The U.S. has seen North Korea as an enemy for 50 years. In 1950 North Korea invaded South Korea. U.S. soldiers helped South Korea fight the invasion. Today North Korea is a poor country. But it has the worlds fourth largest army. The U.S. wants North Korea to stop making missiles that can go long distances. Kim told Albright he would work to change the missile program.
Kim owns a satellite-TV dish and watches American shows. He is a big fan of basketball star Michael Jordan. Last week Albright gave Kim a basketball signed by Jordan.
Will relations between the two countries improve? The ball is now in Kims court
posted on 10/20/2002 11:00:06 AM PDT
To: McGruff; All
posted on 10/20/2002 11:04:32 AM PDT
And don't forget:
||Former President Jimmy Carter makes a statement during a Plains, Georgia press conference after he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, October 11, 2002. Carter, a Democrat who was president from 1977 to 1981, was awarded the $1 million prize from a record field of 156 candidates for decades of work to resolve conflicts from the Middle East to North Korea (news - web sites), and from Haiti to Eritrea. Photo by Tami Chappell/Reuters
- Oct 12 9:20 AM ET
posted on 10/20/2002 11:13:47 AM PDT
I'm looking for that poster from the North Korean factory. Anybody got it?
posted on 10/20/2002 11:23:00 AM PDT
Devil spawn sisters?
posted on 10/20/2002 11:35:07 AM PDT
Isn't there a bathroom that needs her cleaning skills?
posted on 10/20/2002 11:41:05 AM PDT
The holding tank on my RV has gotten a little..uh rank . Do you suppose these 2 "ladies" would be available ???????????????
As Rush would say, what a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance.
Kim told Albright he would work to change the missile program.
And, she believed him?
posted on 10/20/2002 12:28:45 PM PDT
I wonder if Albright even considers that she was and is a fool? Arrogant *itch!
posted on 10/20/2002 12:30:49 PM PDT
To: Paul Atreides
"A smiling Kim Jong-il said he was "really happy" to meet a US official for the first time.
Is she really a US official, or is she just our official glittering jewel of colossal ignorance?
Thanks for your double-demon witch photo posting without the required barf alert warning, Sungirl. You owe me a new keyboard. This one is ruined.
The latter. Then again, wasn't everyone in the Clinton Administration?
To: Paul Atreides
North Korean Escapees: Public Executions Routine in Stalinist Country:
Executions, prison camps and network of informants said to keep the hungry nation together
Pekka Mykkänen, Helsingin Sanomat
YANJI, CHINA. Hungry and Stalinist North Korea keeps its' people under firm grip with public executions and a wide network of informants and prison camps, people who escaped from the country to China, human rights organizations and various news publications say. According to the interviews with nine North Korean escapees, the public executions have become routine in their country.
The North Koreans told in the Chinese city of Yanji, that the executed ones are often first beaten up to a near-dead condition, their elbows, knees and ankles are crushed, which after they are tied to a pole and shot before a firing squad.
"Their eyes, hands, middle bodies and feet are tied. Then they shoot them in every place," tells a teenager girl, who says that altogether ten shots are being fired. She estimates to have eye-witnessed 15 executions.
A 30-year-old man tells in another interview situation, that there are nine shots. International Herald Tribune interviewed one year ago a man, who said that for each person there are three soldiers, who all shoot three times - one in the head, the other one in the chest and third one in the stomach. That testimony is in line with the information gathered in Yanji.
All of the interviewed said they had seen several public executions. "At least twenty", a middle-aged woman says. Also children are invited to come and see the executions, the North Koreans say.
"For the first time, I saw the execution from far distance. I got nightmares. But I was told, that if I look nearer, it won't come to my dreams. So, next time I went very close and it helped. I don't see dreams about it any more," explains a woman in her thirties.
North Korea has opened up enormously on the diplomatic front during the past one year and now even the visit of US President seems possible. But US State Secretary Madeleine Albright was heavily criticized last month, when she made no clear mention about the alleged human rights violations during her visit to the country.
Human Rights group Amnesty International said in its' report 1997, that the group believed it had found evidence of at least 23 public executions between 1972-1992. The North Korean government has denied the public executions and claims to use the death sentence only seldom.
Amnesty pressed, that none of the interviews was conducted in South Korea.
There are no reliable estimates of the number of executions in North Korea. South Korean authorities have spoken of hundreds. The number is believed to have grown because of the rising crime due to the severe lack of food in North Korea.
According to different testimonies, the executions have been used as punishments for minor crimes. One North Korean in Yanji tells, that he once saw a group of three executed, because they had stolen a machine from factory.
The public executions are forbidden by international covenants. In North Korea, hundreds and sometimes thousands of people go to see the executions, various sources tell.
There are also a number of unconfirmed reports of cannibals being executed. "In one of the houses in my neighborhood, the mother went crazy because of hunger. She killed her children and invited everyone to come and eat. She was captured and later executed", one North Korean says.
According to the testimonies, before the executions the propaganda machinery goes around and invites people to see the executions, meant to be lessons, over the megaphones.
A South Korean Human Rights group called Citizens' Alliance to Help Political Prisoners in North Korea has collected information on public executions from about hundred defectors that it has interviewed.
"I believe they actually take place", the group's head, Rev. Benjamin Yoon says in his e-mail.
One of the interviewees told, that she had seen an execution on September 26th in Mushan city near the border of China. Altogether 13 people, six of them women, had been shot. "Some of them were anti-revolutionary, some had stolen copper wire and three old women had been selling younger ladies as wives to China", she says.
According to some sources, the atheist North Korea has executed Christians with made-up charges of various crimes. "We have received information that within the past three months eleven Christians have been executed. We have their names and we are investigating the claims. Thousands of Christians have been imprisoned", an American-Korean aid-worker says in Yanji.
"The public executions aim to frighten the people into submission. By making an example of one they warn all to obey," explains Benjamin Yoon.
According to the satellite images and interviews collected by the US and South Korean intelligence, there are twelve large prison camps for about 200 000 political prisoners in North Korea. The country is also estimated to have some 200 smaller camps for regular criminals.
According to some estimates, over 400 000 people have died in the North Korean gulags since 1972.
One method for suppressing people, according to the North Koreans, is the wide network of informants. "You can't trust anybody. Even though your best friend is not an informant, he may one day turn you in, in order to gain a better position for himself," one man says.
According to experts, many North Koreans are critical of their system, but fearing the sentences, there is no real opposition threatening the system. Criticism against the leader Kim Jong-il is a harsh crime that no one dares to commit, the interviewees say.
"He is good. And even though he isn't, we would not say, that he is not," one North Korean formulates.
posted on 10/20/2002 12:39:46 PM PDT
It all sort of adds up, doesn't it.
To: Paul Atreides
klintons keystone kabinet - not a competent one among them.
posted on 10/20/2002 12:50:52 PM PDT
They all have one thing in common: unadulterated corruption. And, the rest of this nation has to pay for it.
"For the first time, I saw the execution from far distance. I got nightmares.
But I was told, that if I look nearer, it won't come to my dreams. So, next time I
went very close and it helped. I don't see dreams about it any more," explains
a woman in her thirties.
Amazing how Heinrich Himmler and this middle-aged lady both learned how to deal with
daily evil. Just get emmersed suffiently and eventually, it's no big deal.
posted on 10/20/2002 12:58:51 PM PDT
According to the interviews with nine North Korean escapees, the public executions
have become routine in their country.
This will come as a big shock...only to lefties/Democrats who
don't know (or don't want to know) history.
A couple of years ago when the Korean War was being commemorated, I read an article
about a man (living in South Korea since the war) who lived in some of the Communist-dominated
part of Korea at the start of the conflict.
The Communists jailed him for evading military service; he said that he had to watch
jailers' treatment of prisoners chained to walls of the prison.
The guards hacked some of them to death with hatchets, some were set on fire and burned alive.
I'll never forget the man said, given there is no love lost between Koreans and their
former occupiers, the Japanese:
"The Communists were worse than the Japanese."
And this was in a front-page article in The Los Angeles Times.
posted on 10/20/2002 1:04:10 PM PDT
What I find interesting is what is missing from all the reports about this North Korean
I've not yet heard the phrase:
TRUST, BUT VERIFY
I guess this shows:
1. most journalists don't have any sort of memory or training in history
2. they really, really hate Reagan.
posted on 10/20/2002 1:15:40 PM PDT
Is this the national symbol of North Korea -- The hammer, sickle, and incoming ICBM ??
I think it's Bill Clinton's personal coat of arms... a hammer, a sickle, and a prick
posted on 10/20/2002 1:52:55 PM PDT
Thanks for posting this.
I'll never forget Albright's public railing against Bush, after his Axis of Evil speech, for including North Korea... after all her hard work there! ;)
It was the first thing I thought of, after hearing the North Korea news last week... MORE Clinton-era ineptitude.
To: Darling Lili
The possible results of her legacy building:
posted on 10/20/2002 3:26:44 PM PDT
posted on 10/20/2002 4:56:37 PM PDT
If they thought all Americans looked and acted like her and Bubba it's little wonder they started to try to make the bomb again.
To: mississippi red-neck
posted on 04/09/2013 12:28:20 PM PDT
so we can all remember the good old days when the Clintons did so much good for the country
posted on 04/12/2013 4:09:43 AM PDT
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