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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Monday, Oct. 21, 2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 21, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/21/2002 4:29:22 AM PDT by Peach

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Overnight News: The 37-year old victim had surgery again last night, vital signs stable and he's breathing with the aid of a respirator. Chief Moose said last night the shooter left a phone number and read a mysterious statement that he said would only be understood by the shooter. He was correct - we are all confused.
1 posted on 10/21/2002 4:29:22 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
bookmark and bump
2 posted on 10/21/2002 4:31:13 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
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To: Peach
French connection? -
SNIPER? -- French military trainee missing in North America

3 posted on 10/21/2002 4:33:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Peach

"This just in. Chief Moose continues his dedicated daily news conferences.
The public patiently awaits a possible composite of the shootist for the sixteenth month.

[ /sarcasm]

4 posted on 10/21/2002 4:35:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Route66; Peach; Bella; Pete; areafiftyone; brigette; harpseal; Merovingian; Miss Marple; ...
Ping, and Prayer Thread Here
5 posted on 10/21/2002 4:35:58 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Assume two people, one of whom was going along to unload the produce and packaged goods at a middle-eastern store North of Richmond (which would naturally be served out of a larger warehouse operation in the DC suburbs with many more Moslems around).

The individual figures out he's with the "wrong guy" somewhere along the trip. At dinner at the Ponderosa (which I believe is "halal") he drops a note for the cops.

No doubt he will be dead himself as soon as the guy he was with finds out about the note!

That's why Charlie Moose should have just made the call and not worried about who was answering the phone!

Hope that clears up the confusion.

This presumes that the note was found at the restaurant - but it will work as well if the note was found at the spot the truck stopped so the shooter could fire his weapon.

6 posted on 10/21/2002 4:36:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Peach
Fox News is reporting that other Tarot cards have been left at the other crime scenes....let's hope today is the day they get this POS.
7 posted on 10/21/2002 4:36:44 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: muawiyah
The phone number wasn't for the police to call him, it was a third party number (probably a pay phone) that the shooter knows would be "confiscated" by the police. This was so that the shooter could call that number and the police would know without a shadow of doubt that it is the shooter.

Now we just have to wait to see what the shooter wants to talk about.

8 posted on 10/21/2002 4:39:25 AM PDT by JameRetief
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To: Diogenesis
What if it IS Chief Moose?
9 posted on 10/21/2002 4:39:53 AM PDT by LS
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To: muawiyah
P.S., FNC last night said that the note was found at the spot where the shooter fired from.
10 posted on 10/21/2002 4:40:34 AM PDT by JameRetief
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To: LS
..... or someone or group he may be protecting.
11 posted on 10/21/2002 4:43:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: mystery-ak
Yes, I just heard that about other tarot cards. Does anyone know if brian wilson at fox news posts here? Last night on another thread someone wrote that brian wilson will confirm that the writing on the tarot cards was in German.
12 posted on 10/21/2002 4:46:13 AM PDT by Peach
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To: LS
What if it IS Chief Moose?

whoa.....another angle to consider....is he always 'first on the scene'? have the tarot cards included the words 'flustrated'?

13 posted on 10/21/2002 4:47:52 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Peach
In German? I wonder if the shooter is a Turk. I believe they are quite addicted to Tarot, and there's a large and rather hostile colony of them in Germany.
14 posted on 10/21/2002 4:48:38 AM PDT by livius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Saw that Rueters pulled this story this morning - on the advice of LEO's?
15 posted on 10/21/2002 4:50:27 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
I read that thread too...I remember from other threads, posters said that Brian Wilson posts/lurks here...but I don't know for sure.
16 posted on 10/21/2002 4:51:32 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Peach
BTW, story Rueters pulled is the article posted above regarding a French sniper who has been missing since August.
17 posted on 10/21/2002 4:51:40 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
madam:

i would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize for aiding in the
general degeneration of last night's portion of this fine thread.

i can only ask in my defense that, given our having been subjected to the chief's
ebonic presence yet again, you would bear in mind the well-known and
causal link in these quarters between moose and cheese.

while unable, at this time, to foreswear a recurrence of the misdemeanors
of which this mea culpa is the subject, i can assure you and your listeners
that should such behaviour recur, no tarot cards will be left at the scene
in some irresponsible and/or churlish attempt to muddy the waters.

now, about that plea bargain ...

18 posted on 10/21/2002 4:51:51 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: mystery-ak
Thanks for info. Maybe someone who knows JimRob can ask this question.
19 posted on 10/21/2002 4:52:14 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Don't know. The first time I saw this Reuters story was this morning.
20 posted on 10/21/2002 4:53:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Peach
Perhaps it was inaccurate. This is the same outfit that refused to use the word terrorist.
21 posted on 10/21/2002 4:55:07 AM PDT by Lobbyist
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To: tomkat
Mister: Your writing is as funny as any I read here and you have piqued my curiosity in such a way that after my second cup of tea I shall find said thread and read what I can only assume is considerably further down the food, I mean thread, chain until I find said misdemeanors. Until then, the plea bargaining is suspended.
22 posted on 10/21/2002 4:56:11 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Someone responded to your actual post (not the link) that the story was pulled. Don't know when or if that actually happened.
23 posted on 10/21/2002 4:57:02 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
There is a Brian Wilson registered here from VA...2002-3-30....but I don't think that's him?
24 posted on 10/21/2002 4:58:04 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Peach
FWIW, ABC national radio news is reporting the sniper may be using a bicycle to get away theory. It seems the media is willing to report just about anything to fill air-time and/or newsprint.
25 posted on 10/21/2002 4:59:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Peach
kewl ...
  

oops

26 posted on 10/21/2002 4:59:35 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: mystery-ak
I hadn't thought of looking for him that way - very clever for so early in the morning. It probably isn't THE Brian Wilson at Fox - the address doesn't make sense considering they shoot the show from NY - he'd have quite a commute. Thanks for looking.
27 posted on 10/21/2002 4:59:54 AM PDT by Peach
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To: mystery-ak
"There is a Brian Wilson registered here "

No that's the Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys.

28 posted on 10/21/2002 5:00:07 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Oh pleez!
29 posted on 10/21/2002 5:00:33 AM PDT by Lobbyist
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To: Peach
Did anyone catch David Bloom's report on the Today show this morning? I thought I heard him saying something about a source reporting that if the shooter doesn't get what he wants (whatever he indicated in his note) that things could get pretty bad around there for a while? Did anyone else catch that report?
30 posted on 10/21/2002 5:01:09 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Peach
Thanks for the thread.

Richmond Times Dispatch
'We do want to talk' (More than one Tarot card has been found)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772933/posts

31 posted on 10/21/2002 5:01:24 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: mystery-ak
Have the media said other calling cards were left at ALL the shooting crime scenes, or are we operating under the assumption it was the school and Ponderosa crime scenes only? If it was all the crime scenes, why did LEO's wait so long in all instances to announce whether shootings were connected?
32 posted on 10/21/2002 5:02:06 AM PDT by Peach
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Morning, Ms Peach.

What concerns me today, is the closing of the schools.

Just today? Or when exactly do they plan on reopening them?

sw

33 posted on 10/21/2002 5:02:08 AM PDT by spectre
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One problem is that just when we need police forces with really competent professionals I think unfortunately too many are staffed especially at command levels with PC types

Over the years tests have been dumbed down and quota systems imposed etc etc

We are paying and going to continue to pay for this folly and it doesn't look like it's going to be corrected or even discussed anytime soon

Same holds true for the fear of profiling at the national level
Despite endangering lives no politician will even go near this issue
34 posted on 10/21/2002 5:02:46 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: mewzilla
Radio news reports the snipers message was "lengthy". FWIW.
35 posted on 10/21/2002 5:03:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: mewzilla
Didn't catch the report but heard last night on Fox news there was more info that the LEO's have asked the press NOT to release. If you hear more about this, please report. We were worried last night the note left at the Ponderosa was virtually blackmail of some sort - perhaps that things would worsen if police didn't do what sniper wants.
36 posted on 10/21/2002 5:04:22 AM PDT by Peach
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To: mewzilla
Did anyone catch David Bloom's report on the Today show this morning? I thought I heard him saying something about a source reporting that if the shooter doesn't get what he wants (whatever he indicated in his note) that things could get pretty bad around there for a while? Did anyone else catch that report?

No. But I guarantee you they didn't shut down all those schools just because some parents asked them to.

37 posted on 10/21/2002 5:04:26 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Last week a lawyer I know told me that a friend of his is investigating the Fairfax Home Depot shooting.

The husband of the woman saw a man in a vehicle staring at them. He turned to his wife, and said something like, "I wonder what that guy is doing?", turned back, and saw the man shoot his wife from 30-40 yards away.

No description of what the man looked like or the vehicle. I have been waiting for the police to say something about it, and I find it incredible that they have not.

I disagree with the policy of not giving out information about the investigation.
38 posted on 10/21/2002 5:05:04 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Peach
Brian Wilson covers the DC area for Fox.
39 posted on 10/21/2002 5:06:25 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: spectre; Peach
are they saying that the schools are closed BECAUSE of the sniper situation?
40 posted on 10/21/2002 5:07:40 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I don't get it. The Feds release the anthrax letters in the hope that the public can help, but won't even tell the public the gist of this loony's notes. I don't know what they're accomplishing by holding back so much.
41 posted on 10/21/2002 5:08:03 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: spectre
I'm curious about the school closings, too. Could the sniper have made some sort of threat to schools or kids? It seems odd to close them today and not after any other shootings. Did they close when the 13 yr old got shot?
42 posted on 10/21/2002 5:08:47 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: Peach
Well, judging by the look on Chief Moose's face last night, I can believe the note did what it set out to do.
43 posted on 10/21/2002 5:09:38 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Peach
Fox did not specify which crime scenes....just *other* crime scenes....leaving me to assume more than two.
44 posted on 10/21/2002 5:10:18 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: CobaltBlue; aristeides
See #38. The Home Depot shooting/hit sure is confusing.
45 posted on 10/21/2002 5:10:39 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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Ye, you'd think more information would be helpful to the public. I believe at some point there was a report that the shooter didn't want the notes released, but that certainly didn't seem to stop him from shooting more people.

I suppose one possibility is that the contents of the note(s) is political, and they don't want to make it public?
46 posted on 10/21/2002 5:11:46 AM PDT by livius
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Authorities believe Washington-area sniper may have left message at scene of Virginia shooting -AP Breaking News
STEPHEN MANNING, Associated Press Writer
(10-21) 04:54 PDT (AP) -- AH: With BC-Sniper-Outdoor Jobs ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) -- Schools closed across a swath of Virginia on Monday after a message to authorities and a cryptic police response suggested that the elusive Washington-...SNIP...
47 posted on 10/21/2002 5:12:18 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: mystery-ak
Heard and posted this last night. They are also saying that there was a substantial amount of text to the "note" that was left. Yes indeed, also reported there have been MANY Taro cards left at the scenes of the shootings.
48 posted on 10/21/2002 5:13:03 AM PDT by ingodwetrust
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To: Peach; All
Heard last night on Fox(Im in a fog and can't remember who) said the shooter is using a flash suppressor on his weapon.
49 posted on 10/21/2002 5:14:02 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: JameRetief
perhaps he didn't know the cops would take the number. Perhaps he thought they would need to go to that location to answer the phone and he could play out the scenerio of the movie which the media has talked about wherein a sniper holds a cop hostage in a phonebooth.

I see him, waiting with the booth in sight for the cop to arrive and when that doesn't happen, he doesn't call.

50 posted on 10/21/2002 5:15:23 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
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