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CNN: Archaeologists Report 1st Direct Evidence of Jesus
Oct. 21, 2002 | CNN

Posted on 10/21/2002 9:04:51 AM PDT by jern

BREAKING: Archaeologists Report 1st Direct Evidence of Jesus


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: biblicalarcheology; bones; boxofbones; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; gospelofjesuswife; hewasarabbi; james; jamescameron; jamesossuary; jesus; jesustomb; karenking; letshavejerusalem; losttombofjesus; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; ossuary; rabbismarry; sectarianturmoil; simchajacobovici; talpiot; talpiottomb; weddingatcana
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To: Junior; prisoner6
they flashed it across the bottom of the screen as a News Alert during the sniper coverage....
21 posted on 10/21/2002 9:35:49 AM PDT by jern
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To: ElisabethInCincy
One may not need proof, but it's still pretty exciting when proof appears.
22 posted on 10/21/2002 9:36:35 AM PDT by Junior
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To: jgrubbs
< I agree with the Protestants, I think that James was Jesus' son...>

You do mean Joseph's son correct?... James was Jesus' half-brother via Mary.
23 posted on 10/21/2002 9:36:40 AM PDT by CAPTAINSUPERMARVELMAN
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To: Dog Gone
Impressive post, sir.
24 posted on 10/21/2002 9:37:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: r9etb
To require "firsthand evidence" of an event that occurred 2000 years ago goes far beyond what authorites require for other antiquities. Do you believe Homer wrote the Iliad? Do you believe Herodotus wrote the Histories? Do you reqlize there is FAR MORE evidence that Jesus lived for either of the above. Would you agree that there is firsthand evidence that the Gospels existed and every word of the New Testament as well by 326 A.D.?

Of course you would, because you realize that there are a dozen parchment Codex copies extant. So for these documents to have existed 300 years later, there HAD to be some antecedent activity that led to their production. The fact that these documents still exist and are identical to the current copies of the Bible, and that earlier documents have been found which are identical with portions of the codex bear "firsthand evidence" that you require. When Luke writes "We SAW these things" you are GIVEN firsthand evidence. His claims have been the same in all of the above documents. Hence, YOU ARE GIVEN FIRSTHAND EVIDENCE. If you wish to deny it, that is your perogative, but what you have is "firsthand evidence."
25 posted on 10/21/2002 9:37:56 AM PDT by wastoute
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To: CAPTAINSUPERMARVELMAN
Yes that is what I meant, I made note of my TYPO on Post #19
26 posted on 10/21/2002 9:38:03 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: Junior
AMEN JUNIOR !!!!! :))))
27 posted on 10/21/2002 9:40:00 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: Vic3O3
Ping
28 posted on 10/21/2002 9:40:03 AM PDT by dd5339
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To: jern
I have all the evidence I need. The BIBLE !!
29 posted on 10/21/2002 9:40:21 AM PDT by Dustbunny
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To: Desdemona
Mary did not birth him.

How do you know?

30 posted on 10/21/2002 9:40:48 AM PDT by Lyford
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To: Dustbunny
AMEN Dustbunny!!!
31 posted on 10/21/2002 9:41:00 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
The inscription, in the Aramaic language, appears on an empty ossuary, or limestone burial box for bones. It reads: ``James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus.''

Yep, and the cave was empty too, proof that Jesus didn't exist. What, do you think a dead guy just got up and walked away?

Oh. Never mind...

32 posted on 10/21/2002 9:45:36 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: jgrubbs
I was about to point that one out. :-)But how many times do Catholics have to point out that they don't WORSHIP Mary. They VENERATE her; in other words, they honor her, for accepting God's will for her, which was to be the Theotokos, the Mother of God. This is also true of Orthodox Christians.

People often forget two things concerning Scripture. It was written in ANOTHER language (in this case, Greek). The word used by the Gospel writers that has been translate as "brother" meant close relative too. Also, there are MANY ways that someone can be your brother. Literally, one can be a brother if you have the same parents, or if you only have ONE parent in common. Tradition (I know, it's not in the canon of the New Testament that was set by the Eastern and Western Churches several centuries after Christ's life) states that Joseph was probably much older than Mary when she was betrothed to him, and quite possibly, he was married once before. This is what, as someone state before, the Orthodox Churches hold (apparently). This view has certain merit, in my opinion. What Scripture appears to say due to translation doesn't give the entire picture.

Using it to vouch for a certain viewpoint that is in antithesis to another (Mary had other children vs. Mary was a "perpetual virgin") will always show bias to one or the other viewpoint. We can never be ABSOLUTELY sure, because Scripture itself isn't entirely clear on this, so as long as we don't have conclusive proof of what happened, we can't say conclusively. All we can rely on is faith, and who argues the best argument (in their each individual opinion).

33 posted on 10/21/2002 9:45:40 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: wastoute
If you wish to deny it, that is your perogative, but what you have is "firsthand evidence."

You're misreading far too much into my post. I suggest you go back and read it for comprehension.

34 posted on 10/21/2002 9:45:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: jern
They found his wallet?
35 posted on 10/21/2002 9:46:03 AM PDT by doctor noe
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To: Desdemona
Exact geneology doesn't matter.

How conveeeenient.

36 posted on 10/21/2002 9:46:52 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: jern
And if Jesus didn't exist then how could Ted Turner hate him? Something for CNN to ponder.
37 posted on 10/21/2002 9:46:59 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: jern
The history channel said he was just a right wing radical anyway.
If they found evidence, they'll claim he's responsible for the evil Christian right wing we have today. LOL
He was an "oppressive" leader. He taught people should learn to fish, rather than get fish welfare.
He was an evil gun owner of his day. He taught that if you didn't have a sword - sell your cloak and buy one.
He was a moral "bigot". "Intolerant" of homosexuals, whores, and other Satanic lifestyles of the left. He loved them enough to try to change them, though.
He was anti-abortion. He said if anyone hurts a little one, it would be better to have a millstone tied around their neck and be thrown into the sea.
Yep. He was a right wing radical. I'm sure the left will be right there to demonize his remains. LOL
38 posted on 10/21/2002 9:47:09 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Desdemona
Exact geneology doesn't matter.

That's mighty convenient.....

39 posted on 10/21/2002 9:47:29 AM PDT by ksen
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To: texson66
"'I agree with the Protestants, I think James was Jesus' son,...'
"Please let me know what Protestants believe this!!!!! "

As a matter of fact, the Cathars of southern France believed that Jesus and Mary Magdalene married and had children, one of whom was a boy named James.

40 posted on 10/21/2002 9:49:15 AM PDT by Fabozz
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