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To: f.Christian
I have no idea what you're saying. But let me take a stab at it anyway. You complain that evolutionary theory, and modern cosmology, could not possibly be true because the complexity of our environment couldn't have been caused at random. First of all, this has nothing to do with creationism, but sounds more like an argument used by proponents of "intelligent design", which is essentially Evolution-Plus (evolution guided by God). And actually, "intelligent design" is not a theory at all because it cannot be distinguished from evolutionary theory. The whole point of a random event is that we do not know what caused it. That's the definition of randomness - lack of knowledge. So if you want to say mutations happen because God wills them, ok, go for it. It doesn't change anything about explaining the mechanics of evolution, so it is really irrelevant to the science to say "God causes mutations".
18 posted on 10/22/2002 4:42:02 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: billybudd
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin America---the post-modern age

19 posted on 10/22/2002 4:44:09 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: billybudd
To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

452 posted on 9/7/02 8:54 PM Pacific by Dakmar

21 posted on 10/22/2002 4:49:54 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: billybudd
To: f.Christian

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule for the assurance technocracy and expert rule.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic

22 posted on 10/22/2002 4:56:41 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: billybudd

I have no idea what you're saying. But let me take a stab at it anyway.

Hey, nobody told me we'd be playing pin the tail on the donkey. Blindfold me next and give a good spin -- I'm game.

51 posted on 10/22/2002 6:57:42 PM PDT by Zon
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