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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Wed., Oct. 23,2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 23, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/23/2002 2:39:33 AM PDT by Peach

Let's keep a live commentary thread going again today. The FBI Tip Line #1-888-324-9800.

All seems quiet since yesterday's news the shooter may target children specifically. It was released on various news outlets the shooter's 3-page letter to police was in broken English and threatened extreme violence. Police announced an electronic transfer of $10m as requested by the shooter was not possible but other options for transfer remain open. No one seriously believes police will actually give the shooter $$, but police are trying to keep a dialogue open with the shooter in an effort to capture this monster.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltwaysniper; dc; dcsniper; dcsnipers; fbi; investigation; maryland; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
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To: Fred Mertz
"Do they have a physical description of the two occupants, other than age 40 and age 17 (and Jamiacan)?"

They may be avoiding that part because they might have to admit their physical descriptions will suggest they are part of "a group or groups" - [like the Chief spoke about the other day.]
3,281 posted on 10/23/2002 8:43:48 PM PDT by Route66
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To: All
Did I just hear on MSNBC someone crack open a beer?
3,282 posted on 10/23/2002 8:43:57 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: TexKat
poor Moosie LOL

Just heard the two men may be involved in a shooting in Montgomery, AL in September of two women outside a liquor store.

3,283 posted on 10/23/2002 8:43:57 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Letitring
They locked it up for the night.
3,284 posted on 10/23/2002 8:43:58 PM PDT by Lobbyist
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To: Slip18; JDGreen123
Thanks for the history on their names.
3,285 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:04 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: rintense
OH MY GOD! The Key Link came from My own Back Yard!!!

WSFA here in Montgomery, Al is reporting that a Call to the TIPLINE was very specific and told the Task Force to inquire with the Montgomery, Al Police anout a shooting in late September on Zelda Rd (About 3 miles from my house).

The CREDIT CARD has apparently been linked to the victim of that shooting, and other evidence from the TIPLINE then led investigators to Camp Ground Zero and Tacoma, WA!!!!!

3,286 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:05 PM PDT by commish
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To: poppyseed
I hear you. I was trying to keep my husband updated on all of this - and I was trying to type, talk, listen to Fox - and I got so confused - I pounded my fingers down on the keyboard and told him to "be quiet".

He just rolled his eyes and smiled - I then apologized to him and told him that I didn't mean it. I was trying to tell someone on tv to be quiet!!

Glad those of you on FR understand! :))

3,287 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:06 PM PDT by MasonGal
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To: rintense
"I invented stumps"
3,288 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:07 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Fred Mertz
The excuse they're using is, the minute they state anything as fact, is the minute it changes...ahem. Nah, if the older guy is black too, it will be a first....they'll have to figure out how to spin this.

I'm still curious....did the mother turn them in? No word on her yet.

3,289 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:11 PM PDT by Katya
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To: Letitring
News flash: The stump isn't talking!
3,290 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:11 PM PDT by POGIFFMOO
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To: TexKat
What the hell is going on in prisons???!?!?!?!?!

Something like the following, which is excerpted from Rod Dreher's review of The Close, by Chloe Breyer:

Breyer runs across Touchstone’s kind of guy at Bellevue, and she doesn’t know what to do with him. His name is Thomas, and he is one of the members of the pastoral care program who does not hail from General. He’s a Yale Divinity School student from a traditional Protestant background.

“It is eye-opening to watch Thomas unapologetically defend his pastoral decisions on Scriptural grounds,” she observes. “While the rest of us trip over each other to see situations in murkier shades of gray.”

Her Future Ministry I predict Thomas’s ministry will go far, while those of Ms. Breyer and her faithless lot will . . . well, see for yourself. Our Chloe decides to set up a Bible study for a group of Bellevue patients who are in from Rikers Island, the notorious city prison. She plays a video segment from the Bill Moyers series Genesis. The inmates see Bible scholars agreeing that Genesis gives us plenty of questions, but few answers. Her students don’t get it.

“They’re supposed to be experts, right?” says Tyrone. “So then why are they giving us all this stuff about not having any answers? I mean, it doesn’t take a Ph.D. not to have answers! And if they don’t have any answers, then who does?”

Others chime in with contempt for the equivocating liberal scholars Breyer so admires. Finally, a Muslim convert speaks up. “See, this is what I’m telling you, man. The Koran is the place to go for answers! . . . I became a Muslim because the Koran has the most truth in it. You don’t argue about what it means. You read it, and you know what to do. The Prophet got the word directly from God.”

“Is that right?” asks Tyrone. “Is that how it is? The Koran has more answers than the Bible?” Undeterred, and unable to grasp the significance of the moment, Breyer sets out to teach these poor sinners that the Bible doesn’t have to be taken literally. There are lots of gray areas, she tells them, and they should feel empowered by the fact that they can interpret Scripture any way they like. The inmates are unmoved.

“They want answers, not questions,” Breyer writes. “[T]he more contradictions I point out in the Bible, the more the inmates decide there is no point in wasting their time with a religion that lacks answers.” Smart cookies, those crooks, who intuitively grasp the worthlessness of Breyer’s baptized sophistries to their broken lives. Their critique is utterly lost on this earnest young woman, who does not know, or perhaps simply does not have the courage or conviction to say to these men, that Jesus is “the Way, the Truth, and the Life.”


3,291 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:12 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: aeronca
At this point, anything is possible.
3,292 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:20 PM PDT by rintense
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To: swarthyguy
BBC is staying up to date.

BBC coverage of Moscow Hostage standoff

3,293 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:25 PM PDT by JDGreen123
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To: aristeides
Let me get this straight. The bolos are for two American militia crazies, one who served in the military and is of hispanic descent, and the other a step child from Jamaica? They seem to have taken a national tour of places tied to AQ,in recent news, but not one news outlet remembers this, and the ONE thing we KNOW for sure from Chris whoever is that "THIS IS NOT TERRORIST RELATED"
Is that close to the current picture we have.... Oh, and of course there is STILL no composite????!!!
3,295 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:57 PM PDT by snickeroon
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Thanks, Kim - you are definitely the best. Here's the link: Link HERE
3,296 posted on 10/23/2002 8:45:00 PM PDT by Peach
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To: commish
WOW!!!
3,297 posted on 10/23/2002 8:45:03 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Chemist_Geek
Got fingerprints from payphone in Richmond Monday... matched up with military prints?
3,298 posted on 10/23/2002 8:45:06 PM PDT by smpte
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To: Lobbyist
As the stumps attorney I have no comment at this time.

actually, do we know exactly what kind of tree it was?

.....Perhaps it was a French Provincial Oak....in which case the stump was actually surrendering.

3,299 posted on 10/23/2002 8:45:07 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: roses of sharon
Gotcha. Will do.
3,300 posted on 10/23/2002 8:45:11 PM PDT by Darlin'
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