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Sniper Search near Seattle (digging for evidence)
Local NBC News Channel | Oct 23, 02 | MSNBC

Posted on 10/23/2002 4:20:21 PM PDT by spycatcher

MSNBC reporting sniper related digging and searching of a building in Tacoma WA. FBI is involved. May be related to something the sniper told police


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: search; sniper; tacoma
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To: blam
"Has anybody heard about previous snipper attacks in Montgomery Alabama?"

Well, you don't have to get "snippy" about it!

951 posted on 10/23/2002 6:34:18 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Spunky
... previous snipper attacks in Montgomery Alabama?

Someone's always got to hijack the discussion to concerns about circumcision...

:)

952 posted on 10/23/2002 6:34:34 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: Spunky
previous snipper attacks in

oh god here we go again LOLOLOLOOL

snippers and stumps

gimme outta here lmao

953 posted on 10/23/2002 6:34:38 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Michael2001
When did I miss this? How do we know he has a stolen credit card?
To recap, the sniper left a note saying to deposit $10M into a credit card (how that works I don't know). Police checked it out and the card's stolen.
The police are looking for shell casings at the house in Tacoma. However, its a residential neighborhood so I can't see how he could fire it at the house.
954 posted on 10/23/2002 6:34:46 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Lauratealeaf
I clearly detected a sneer in both of your comments.

That was my bullshit meter. It's been pegged since this entire thing started, especially toward those who are cocksure that this is al-Qaeda, when there is no evidence whatsoever that it is al-Qaeda related.

There's going to be a lot of crow eaten around here when this is proven to be homegrown and an ex-military individual.

The fact that they've asked for illegals to come forward indicates that this guy is likely Hispanic.

955 posted on 10/23/2002 6:35:28 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I was drunk when I posted that I have sobered up since.
956 posted on 10/23/2002 6:35:39 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: aristeides
Two suspects came under suspicion after similar shootings in Montgomery, Alabama. Anybody know what that means?

guy is a sears employee and hates places with montgomery in their name>

dep

957 posted on 10/23/2002 6:35:54 PM PDT by dep
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To: SheLion
They are looking in Alabama. Maybe there's a new cell there because they can get out there in the middle of nowhere or go to the mountains which may be similar to Afghanistan for hiding. Just speculating. Alabama is not on the terrorist cell map at this juncture.
958 posted on 10/23/2002 6:35:59 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
If I haven't been hit, you must acquit!
959 posted on 10/23/2002 6:36:00 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
NObody better bring up James K. Polk (Napoleon of the stump)
960 posted on 10/23/2002 6:36:29 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: antivenom
THe "previous" owner of the stolen credit card????????

No, I heard the police have spoken to him/her.

961 posted on 10/23/2002 6:36:37 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: aristeides; okie01
WMAL: Two suspects came under suspicion after similar shootings in Montgomery, Alabama. Anybody know what that means?

Combined with Montgomery County, Maryland, could be some kind of geographical fixation, like the Smiley face bomber.

BTW, Okie01 - here's a link to my first profile, Oct. 9, based on the tarot card - before the issues about money demands, long letter, and other things came out. OK, I said the perp was a Dominican, but hey, Mexico's on the Caribbean too! That's close!

Profile link

962 posted on 10/23/2002 6:36:42 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Cachelot
Learn.

Stuff the condescension, dh.

963 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:05 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: section9
"Wild goose chase" does not apply here.
There is a differential list which must be investigated one at a time.
If this is negative, then there is one less.
964 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: sinkspur
Crow? Ya think??? LOL Someone needs to start a thread on some delicious "crow recipes".
965 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:23 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: clintonh8r
Looking for an accomplice, described as a "chip off the old block"...
966 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:41 PM PDT by laker_dad
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To: eddie willers
Not a stenographer but I used to type 100 wpm. Much slower now but I transcribed recorded statements and dictation for years until I switched to paralegal work. The fingers still type whatever they hear but not at 100 wpm. I can't read very fast though.
967 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:52 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: grimalkin
Deborah Waters, a witness to the scene who lives across the street, says that agents had retrieved some sort of large object and put it in the back of a van. It's not known what the object is.

A spitoon ... an old engine ... 10 years worth of cans that should have been recycled but weren't ... the Nike sign ... the possibilities are endless.
968 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:53 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: sinkspur
There's going to be a lot of crow eaten around here when this is proven to be homegrown and an ex-military individual.

That assumes that anyone would give up the Al-Qaeda theory even if others are caught.
969 posted on 10/23/2002 6:37:56 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: SarahW
Mayor of Bellingham, WA was just on and they asked if the 2 soldiers they are looking for are Hispanic and the guy said one of them isn't a US National (huh?) and then he stuttered when asked if the other was hispanic.
Sounds like the 2 were there 9 months ago. FBI also searched a school (what kind I don't know) in Bellingham as well.
One is high school age, other is older.
970 posted on 10/23/2002 6:38:16 PM PDT by lelio
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To: sinkspur
The videos were made BEFORE they were nailed.

Not from what I've heard, but I may have missed catching that bit of info. When were they made? The only estimate I've seen so far is that the video where bin Laden takes credit is this excerpt from CNN:

"The tape, which the U.S. government said was found in a home in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, and had poor audio quality, was believed to have been made in Kandahar on or around November 9..."

The tape was found by coalition forces in the first part of December in Jalalabad- bin Laden never did release this tape to the news as al Qaeda had done with other tapes calling for jihad (but not taking credit for things.) These other tapes were released on al Jazeera but in the case of this tape, where bin Laden's guilt was clear, where he named 9 hijackers... the tape was made known only because it was CAPTURED. There was no reason to believe that this tape was ever going to be released for mass consumption. In fact, it would be out of character... as I said before, one of the distinguishing characteristics about al Qaeda was that of all the other terrorist groups, al Qaeda was unusual in that it seldom if ever took direct credit and its brochures sometimes advised against taking responsibility.

971 posted on 10/23/2002 6:38:38 PM PDT by piasa
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To: lawdog
The tarp was being used to shield the ??? from the T.V. cameras.

My thought. Tom
972 posted on 10/23/2002 6:38:41 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: KSCITYBOY
The have almost never claimed credit for attacks on American targets.

They claimed credit for the COLE, and for 9/11.

973 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Arkinsaw
Then.......back to my wife watching Left Wing.

Why? In the name of God, why?

Why watch some pretend President in his left wing Pretend world?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

974 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:18 PM PDT by section9
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To: sinkspur
Do you recall the sniper actions in Sarejevo(sp?)? The illegals could be from the Serbo-Croat category and the sniping might be somehow echoing the evil that went on in that region. The reference to 'your children are not safe ...' is hauntingly like the comments that were aired during the horrific atrocities in the Yugoslavian region.
975 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Bush2000
The owner of the house runs a garage and has some junked cars around, so yeah it can be anything.
976 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:30 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Shermy
Combined with Montgomery County, Maryland, could be some kind of geographical fixation, like the Smiley face bomber.

The Right Angle Angle Sniper? The Letter V Sniper?
977 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:37 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: lelio
COUld it be my Yugo-frenchie friend?
978 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:46 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: spokeshave
Ayoob is one of the good guys...probably one of the top instructors in defensive fire-arm tactics....

Nobody is accusing Ayoob of anything. The point is: do you remember the AQ training manual? They're told to get all the legal firearms training they can. I'd lay a small bet that the attendance records of LFI can give some interesting info. Same with Gunsite, for that matter.

979 posted on 10/23/2002 6:39:49 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: calawah98
No, I just live in Whatcom County and got to know alot of the people from the reservation through kids sports and the fact that the refinery hires a certain number of people from the reservation. The son of the Mexican woman who moved up here, helped out with a football team that my husband was coaching.

The Lummis make no secret that they welcome anyon of Native American extraction, including Mexicans because their numbers are dwindling.
980 posted on 10/23/2002 6:40:02 PM PDT by Eva
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To: FreepLady
"Well..we are neighbors..so I guess we Madison residents will have to start keeping our eyes open!!"

Yeah, I just went out back to make sure there were no front end loaders digging out tree stumps. I just scanned the local affiliates and nothing on them.
981 posted on 10/23/2002 6:40:05 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: tall_tex
MSNBC saying older man and teenager, not father/son, Alabama
982 posted on 10/23/2002 6:40:14 PM PDT by Bella
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To: sinkspur
I'm thinking the tip came from an active duty soldier and had nothing to do with the credit card deal. I'll bet the house in Alabama had a soldier as a tenant as well.
983 posted on 10/23/2002 6:40:19 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Arkinsaw
Look! The U-Haul is doing the ballot drive!
984 posted on 10/23/2002 6:40:31 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: lelio
Fort Lewis near Tacoma is largely a training base and so might not even have soldiers with specialized training in being snipers. That school is in Texas anyway.
985 posted on 10/23/2002 6:40:40 PM PDT by TinkersDam
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To: tall_tex
The tarp was being used to shield the ??? from the T.V. cameras.
I doubt it as they were putting items on top of it.
986 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:04 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Bella
Mayor of Alabama talking w/ msnbc, bellingham...18yr old and male in 30's....
987 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:10 PM PDT by Bella
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To: section9
Why? In the name of God, why?

Why watch some pretend President in his left wing Pretend world?


Because I won't get supper if I don't let her watch it.
988 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:17 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: eddie willers
666 posted on 10/23/02 8:56 PM Eastern by sinkspur

Yes, I noticed that. And the post was to me too... Creepy

989 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:19 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: floriduh voter
I have read every post on this thread --- Missouri has the best meth.
990 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:23 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Shermy
Combined with Montgomery County, Maryland, could be some kind of geographical fixation, like the Smiley face bomber.

If this is true, Montgomery Gentry better cancel their tour right now.

}:-)4

991 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:29 PM PDT by Moose4
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To: clintonh8r
Two suspects. Two locations. Tacoma and Alabama lookin' for bullets. And, I am getting sleepy. These long threads are fun but unduly burdensome.
992 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:34 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: tall_tex
Yeah that too.

They don't want the suspects or the media to know exactly what they took but believe me the suspects "know" and the "sphincter factor" is now off the scale!

993 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:38 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Bella
MSNBC showing LIVE shot of U-haul Truck carrying Stump. (I'm having FLA recount flashbacks)
994 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:55 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Bella
Tacoma person of interest...was not a special forces or sniper type guy...maybe even get a name of one or two people some time tonight...
995 posted on 10/23/2002 6:41:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SarahW
Channel 5 Seattle reporting both individuals lived in Bellingham, Washington a nine months back. One a high school student, the other much older and not a U.S. national. Not related. Had some earlier trouble with Bellingham police. Police searched a Bellingham school.

This from the Mayor of Bellingham. Mayor believes they were trying to get into Canada at that point nine months ago. Older man is in his thirties. Younger man was a student at Bellingham high school.
996 posted on 10/23/2002 6:42:04 PM PDT by moyden
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To: Bella
The person being interviewed was the Mayor of Bellingham, Washington not Alabama.
997 posted on 10/23/2002 6:42:06 PM PDT by Don Munn
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To: clintonh8r
Non-stop coverage of the stump's trip to DC!!!
998 posted on 10/23/2002 6:42:27 PM PDT by laker_dad
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To: lelio
A few hours ago, my theory was that the rifle was converted to shoot .22 rounds, which if in subsonic form, could be fired without much attention. Maybe the owner of the rifle at the time praticed in the back yard this way and the FBI is looking for old bullets in the tree which will have the barrel markings on the bullets. The sniper could now be using the same rifle converted back to .223.
Crazy theory? Maybe not.
999 posted on 10/23/2002 6:42:33 PM PDT by amadeus
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To: tall_tex
The tarp was used to cover the stump. They recovered a stump and put it into the truck under a tarp. Its just the base of an old dead tree.
1,000 posted on 10/23/2002 6:42:39 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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