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Against Fundamentalism (Mr. Sarandon)
The Nation ^ | Oct. 18 2002 | Tim "The Eunich" Robbins

Posted on 10/24/2002 7:27:37 PM PDT by Senator Pardek

Like most New Yorkers, like most Americans, the attacks of September 11 made me very angry. In the days after the attacks I was incredibly moved by the generosity and humanity that arose as people from all over the country drove instantly toward New York to help, to work, to dig, to rebuild spirits. Still I was angry. Why New York? New York more than any other city in the world encourages diversity of faith. The peaceful coexistence of different cultures and beliefs in this city is nothing short of a miracle.

A few years ago I did a movie called Dead Man Walking. I think the reason that film led to a dialogue about the death penalty is that it didn't deligitimize the anger of the victims' families. Although I would hope to not allow revenge in my heart, I recognize the legitimacy of this human emotion. So when our government went after Al Qaeda with massive bombing in Afghanistan I had a problem with the method but understood the motivation. For the first time in my adult life my country was involved in a military action that was reactive, and I sat silent.

I do not like fundamentalism of any kind. Any movement that connects violence with God loses me, whether it's the murder of a doctor at an abortion clinic or the murder of busboys, firemen or businessmen in the World Trade Center. Radical fundamentalism at its core hates all the things I love: art, free expression, music, independent women, theater, good movies. We must be very wise in the way we frame our argument and how we proceed as we resist this new war.

This is not the chickens coming home to roost, Al Qaeda are not farmers looking for self-determination and land rights in Central America. Al Qaeda are not Vietnamese peasants dealing with the napalm from a government that purports to care about them. Al Qaeda will not stand shoulder to shoulder with those struggling to call attention to Third World sweatshop labor. In fact, Al Qaeda's actions have hurt this burgeoning and important movement more than any other.

Let us find a way to resist fundamentalism that leads to violence--fundamentalism of all kinds, in Al Qaeda and within our own government. What is our fundamentalism? Cloaked in patriotism and our doctrine of spreading democracy throughout the world, our fundamentalism is business, the unfettered spread of our economic interests throughout the globe. Our resistance to this war should be our resistance to profit at the cost of human life. Because that is what these drums beating over Iraq are really about. This is about business. The business of distracting American attention from Enron and Halliburton, the financial scandals that directly connect this Administration to the heart of what is now wrong with the American economy. These scandals have disappeared from the front pages of our newspapers as we argue about this war.

In the name of fear and fighting terror we are giving the reins of power to oilmen looking for distraction from their disastrous economic performance, oilmen more interested in a financial bottom line than a moral bottom line, oilmen ready to expand their influence with new contracts on the soil our bombers have plowed, new contracts forged with governments that do not allow democracy on their soil for fear of losing control over the oil that governs their lives, that governs our lives. The majority in America knows this. A dormant majority in America waits with anticipation for the politician who will stand in front of the American people in defiance of the oil companies and advocate alternative energy as a way to extricate ourselves from this culture of violence that threatens our future.

Let us resist this war and our impending oil war in Colombia, and let us resist fundamentalism in all its guises. Let us hate war in all its forms, whether its weapon is a US missile or its weapon is a domestic airplane.


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I'm not a spiritual man, and I'm not "gung-ho" about fighting Iraq, but why does this nattering dunderpate's opinion mean anything? When will we hear Barry Bonds talk about the capital gains tax?

Does anyone think that the average pro baseball player is not more intelligent than the average hollyweirdo?

1 posted on 10/24/2002 7:27:37 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
These folks think play acting is real. And real life is play acting.
2 posted on 10/24/2002 7:31:10 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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When will we hear Barry Bonds talk about the capital gains tax?

He won't. He'll tell you to get out of his face.

3 posted on 10/24/2002 7:34:12 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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I do not like fundamentalism of any kind.

This from a high priest of fundamental stupidity

4 posted on 10/24/2002 7:34:18 PM PDT by IncPen
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He's talking about morals.

He has an open marriage.

How can someone with an *open relationship* talk about morals?
5 posted on 10/24/2002 7:37:26 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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Radical fundamentalism at its core hates all the things I love: art, free expression, music, independent women, theater, good movies.

If he likes good movies, why did he make "Bob Roberts"?

6 posted on 10/24/2002 7:39:15 PM PDT by vikingchick
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Gee, he's a 12 year-old mind stuck in an adult body. Still lives with his mother, though.
7 posted on 10/24/2002 7:39:24 PM PDT by dasboot
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Methinks he is a fundamentalist too. If he had his way, he would be the first to inflict his version of morality onto the rest of us infidels.

Brian.
8 posted on 10/24/2002 7:40:47 PM PDT by bzrd
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I do not like fundamentalism of any kind.

Hows about the liberal, secular, muticultural, religious fundamentalism of Hollywood? Hummmmmmmmm? just curious....fsf

9 posted on 10/24/2002 7:41:01 PM PDT by Free State Four
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. . . Any movement that connects violence with God loses me . . .

Of course, the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice would be a significant exception to that rule.

10 posted on 10/24/2002 7:41:13 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
He's talking about morals.

He has an open marriage.

I go out of my way not to make rude comments on a woman's appearance (I'm old-fashioned in that regard), but he's married to a commie, sagging, bug-eyed freak - so I guess it was his idea.

11 posted on 10/24/2002 7:42:34 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Open Marriage? Is that another cheap rationalization of immoral behavior?
12 posted on 10/24/2002 7:44:22 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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"A few years ago I did a movie called Dead Man Walking. I think the reason that film led to a dialogue about the death penalty is that it didn't deligitimize the anger of the victims' families."

So....'cause he "played" in a movie about Death Row, he's an *expert*! If I can apply a band-aid or recover from a cold without medical assistance does that make me a doctor?

"I do not like fundamentalism of any kind."

So....he's wishy-washy. Big deal!

"What is our fundamentalism? Cloaked in patriotism and our doctrine of spreading democracy throughout the world, our fundamentalism is business, the unfettered spread of our economic interests throughout the globe."

Cool! He admits he hates democracy and Capitalism! Way to go Timmy!

Somebody....please, please, dump this *guy* into a cave somewhere.

13 posted on 10/24/2002 7:49:32 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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It would also be nice if both he and the editor would use the word "delegitimize".
14 posted on 10/24/2002 7:54:44 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
I wonder if they've given each other exotic STD's that they've picked up from various flings on 'location'. Imagination on....

"Oh, Tim," Susan gasped, her goldfish eyes blinking nervously. "I just got checked, and you gave me an awful dose of chlamydia again. Can't you use a condom once in a while?"

Tim shifted nervously in the sequined gown he wore to excite himself. "Oh, don't be so bourgeois, Susie. You're starting to sound like my mother. I didn't complain about you and Whoopi now, did I?"

The End---this is a fictional account of the Sarandon's private life. I am expressing my art.

15 posted on 10/24/2002 8:01:09 PM PDT by vikingchick
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What do you expect from a Red Diaper baby?? He and his mindset are preserved in aspic.
16 posted on 10/24/2002 8:03:51 PM PDT by habs4ever
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Sophomoric writing and ankle deep philosophy. Yup, Tim Robbins wrote this.
17 posted on 10/24/2002 8:06:09 PM PDT by keithtoo
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To: Senator Pardek
This is about business. The business of distracting American attention from Enron and Halliburton, the financial scandals that directly connect this Administration to the heart of what is now wrong with the American economy. These scandals have disappeared from the front pages of our newspapers as we argue about this war.

Oh good grief.

19 posted on 10/24/2002 8:42:58 PM PDT by LurkerNoMore!
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To: LurkerNoMore!
Oh Man!
20 posted on 10/24/2002 8:47:25 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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