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Wellstone was an Unapologetic Liberal
Associated Press ^ | 10.25.02 | Jesse J. Holland

Posted on 10/25/2002 1:53:49 PM PDT by wallcrawlr

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:37:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Democratic Sen. Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, one of the last unapologetic liberals left in Congress and known among his friends as a ``pied piper of modern politics,'' died Friday in a Minnesota plane crash. He was 58.

Wellstone's wife, Sheila Ison Wellstone, and daughter Marcia also died in the crash. Three campaign staff members and two pilots also perished.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coleman; liberal; minnesota; senate; wellstone
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1 posted on 10/25/2002 1:53:49 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
His vote against the Iraqi resolution was...

A talking head on CNN fawningly called this "courageous"...

2 posted on 10/25/2002 2:04:18 PM PDT by bruin66
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To: wallcrawlr
"pied piper of modern politics"

My prayers go out to Senator Wellstone and his family and the families of his associates'...however, gimme a friggin' break!! Looks like the RAT Medyuh's committed to making this dude into the next Dead Kennedy...MUD

4 posted on 10/25/2002 2:13:24 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: wallcrawlr
Warning: this AP reporter is notoriously inaccurate and mistaken, as well as biased (I know that goes without saying, but I felt I had to remind everyone). I wouldn't take anything he writes at face value.
5 posted on 10/25/2002 2:13:44 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: bruin66
Sad.

Another man not ready to die.

For man also knoweth not his time
Ecclesiastes 9:12

Dan

6 posted on 10/25/2002 2:16:08 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: wallcrawlr
known among his friends as a ``pied piper of modern politics,''

To the rest of us, he was a "traitor to the Constitution and a threat to the welfare of his fellow citizens".

7 posted on 10/25/2002 2:18:31 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: wallcrawlr
This is a horrible tragedy. My condolences..

Now lets go vote in some judges while we have the chance....

8 posted on 10/25/2002 2:26:39 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Mudboy Slim
Looks like the RAT Medyuh's committed to making this dude into the next Dead Kennedy...MUD

That's because they are determined to get all the mileagle out of this they can get so their replacement gets the sympathy vote. Sadly,I have no doubt this will work. If Wellstone hadn't died,there was a excellent chance he would have been beaten. This is also a death blow for the campaign of his opponet. He might as well go ahead and concede now.

9 posted on 10/25/2002 2:27:07 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Psycho_Bunny; BibChr; 3AngelaD; Mudboy Slim; wallcrawlr
So, what does this mean? Does Wellstone stay on the ballot, virtually guaranteeing a win for his Republican challenger? Does that mean that the Republicans take the Senate? Is the Governor of Wellstone's state a Republican? If so, does that mean that he can appoint the Republican candidate to the seat now?
10 posted on 10/25/2002 2:28:27 PM PDT by Z in Oregon
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To: sneakypete
He might as well go ahead and concede now.

What an incredibly cowardly quitter thing to say!

11 posted on 10/25/2002 2:31:17 PM PDT by Z in Oregon
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To: wallcrawlr
Like everyone, my prayers go out to Sen. Wellstone's family, friends, and staff. This is a great loss for them, and that transcends politics.

I disagreed with Senator Wellstone on just about every issue, but he was a liberal who really believed in what he was doing and stood for his principles and fought for them. I'd like to see more people like this on both sides.
12 posted on 10/25/2002 2:32:57 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Z in Oregon
It means he died.
I wouldnt call it a guarantee.
Possibly
No...have you ever heard of Jesse Ventura?
Ah, no. Never heard of that one. Take a poli sci class or two then come back.
13 posted on 10/25/2002 2:34:42 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: sneakypete
a death blow for the campaign of his opponet. He might as well go ahead and concede now

I dont think so. Norm Coleman is well liked in this state and they (Wellstone and Coleman) were relatively respectful of each other.
Concede...no way.

14 posted on 10/25/2002 2:40:15 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: Z in Oregon
So, what does this mean? Does Wellstone stay on the ballot, virtually guaranteeing a win for his Republican challenger? Does that mean that the Republicans take the Senate? Is the Governor of Wellstone's state a Republican? If so, does that mean that he can appoint the Republican candidate to the seat now?

Jesse "the body" Ventura is the Gov. He can appoint whomever he chooses to fill out the unexpired term. The Dems can place any name they deem fit on the ballot. IMHO Jesse is the biggest power broker on two feet right now.

15 posted on 10/25/2002 5:00:49 PM PDT by Don Corleone
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To: Z in Oregon
What an incredibly cowardly quitter thing to say!

And what a idiotic thing for you to say.

16 posted on 10/25/2002 5:05:09 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: wallcrawlr
I dont think so. Norm Coleman is well liked in this state and they(Wellstone and Coleman) were relatively respectful of each other.

I hope you're right. We'll find out soon enough.

17 posted on 10/25/2002 5:06:34 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Psycho_Bunny
To the rest of us, he was a "traitor to the Constitution and a threat to the welfare of his fellow citizens".

And socialist, gun-grabbing, welfare, and partial-birth baby killer. Good people.

Excuse me if I don't shed a tear.

18 posted on 10/25/2002 5:17:28 PM PDT by Mordoch
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To: sneakypete
This is also a death blow for the campaign of his opponet. He might as well go ahead and concede now.

Decidedly blunt, but historically true! A martyr makes a excellent candidate.

I'll not be critical of him on the day of his death, nor will I boo hoo or sing his praises. I wanted him out of the Senate, not dead.

The fact is that people will think that a fitting memorial will be to carry on his good works. That will be that.

19 posted on 10/25/2002 5:26:45 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Psycho_Bunny
well said psycho_bunny
20 posted on 10/25/2002 5:26:59 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Psycho_Bunny
well said
21 posted on 10/25/2002 5:27:44 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Mordoch
Amen
23 posted on 10/25/2002 5:30:11 PM PDT by swampman
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To: Mordoch
Amen
24 posted on 10/25/2002 5:32:04 PM PDT by swampman
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To: TBP
"I disagreed with Senator Wellstone on just about every issue, but he was a liberal who really believed in what he was doing and stood for his principles and fought for them. I'd like to see more people like this on both sides."

I'd be happy to see even a FEW on our side. Seems like all of ours are gutless wonders.

25 posted on 10/25/2002 5:36:02 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Mordoch
Excuse me if I don't shed a tear.

I'm with you on this, shame he died, blah, blah, blah...

But the guy epitomized everything I despise in a Rat politician...

26 posted on 10/25/2002 5:36:22 PM PDT by Geronimo
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To: TBP
"I disagreed with Senator Wellstone on just about every issue, but he was a liberal who really believed in what he was doing and stood for his principles and fought for them. I'd like to see more people like this on both sides."

I'd be happy to see even a FEW on our side. Seems like all of ours are gutless wonders.

27 posted on 10/25/2002 5:36:25 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Mordoch
I'm having a "to-do" with my wife over this. She says, 'It's terrible'. I shrug my shoulders. She gets mad at me for my reaction. She says, 'A human being died today'. I tell her 'humans die every day and if I thought abouth that, I'd never get out of bed. Besides, liberals are hardly human.'

Looks like it's the couch tonight. ;-)

28 posted on 10/25/2002 5:36:55 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: wallcrawlr
was...
29 posted on 10/25/2002 5:42:09 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: Mordoch
Ya just know that this thread is gonna be talked about over yonder at DU.
30 posted on 10/25/2002 5:42:24 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: wallcrawlr
was...
31 posted on 10/25/2002 5:42:50 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: wallcrawlr
At least he never hid that he was a socialist liberal like most all the RATS do but his death is leaving me with a degree of suspicion. Ron Brown, John jr, Carnahan, a coincidence ?
32 posted on 10/25/2002 5:43:34 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: wallcrawlr
was...
33 posted on 10/25/2002 5:43:46 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: wallcrawlr
My comment on Paul Wellstoned on another thread has already been pulled. But this article tells you all you need to know about how great a "tragedy" his untimely death was. He was a socialist, a liar, and an enemy of freedom.
34 posted on 10/25/2002 5:44:44 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Z in Oregon
No, they already announced soon after his death that his name would be removed from the ballot. Jessie Ventura can appoint a replacement.

The comment about his opponent conceding was not so far out of line. The sympathy vote for whoever ends up on the ballot could elect a democrat.
35 posted on 10/25/2002 5:45:57 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: All
Ya just know that this thread is gonna be talked about over yonder at DU.
36 posted on 10/25/2002 5:46:37 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: bruin66
fox said it was a courageous vote also. I am just wondering what kind of far lefty they plan to put in his place. I this the only way they could win the race. Maybe Welstones polls didn't show him with a winning hand.
37 posted on 10/25/2002 5:47:30 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Mordoch
Excuse me if I don't shed a tear.

I'm with you there.

38 posted on 10/25/2002 5:48:25 PM PDT by DSH
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To: sneakypete
Ya just know that this thread is gonna be talked about over yonder at DU.
39 posted on 10/25/2002 5:48:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: wallcrawlr
In 1996, he [Wellstone] angered gay rights supporters by voting for the "Defense of Marriage" bill, which allowed states to withhold legal recognition of same-sex unions from other states.

On this sad day, I choose to point out the [political] good in Senator Wellstone. He evidently did vote his conscience, and didn't always follow the DNC party line.

But next week, watch out ;)

40 posted on 10/25/2002 5:52:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: wallcrawlr
First, let me say that I really feel sorry for people like Wellstone, his family, the staffers and the crew. I feel that way when anyone is stricken "before their time".

However, I have had a belly full of the crap that both sides of the aisle are spouting on TV. Can you imagine these pimps saying the same thing if it had been Tom DeLay or Trent Lott on that aircraft? I don't think so.

Just a bunch of damned hypocrites.
41 posted on 10/25/2002 5:52:49 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: 3AngelaD
Warning: this AP reporter is notoriously inaccurate and mistaken, as well as biased

For the Jackpot, can you name an AP reporter who is not?

42 posted on 10/25/2002 5:54:24 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Don Corleone
IMHO Jesse is the biggest power broker on two feet right now.

I agree. And, isn't it interesting that the future of the country could be resting in the hands of a lunatic?

43 posted on 10/25/2002 5:55:50 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: wallcrawlr
In 1996, he [Wellstone] angered gay rights supporters by voting for the "Defense of Marriage" bill, which allowed states to withhold legal recognition of same-sex unions from other states.

On this particular day, I choose to point out the [political] good in Senator Wellstone. If the above is any indication, he did vote his conscience, and didn't always follow the DNC party line.

44 posted on 10/25/2002 5:55:54 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: sneakypete
Sorry.
45 posted on 10/25/2002 6:00:36 PM PDT by Z in Oregon
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To: TBP
but he was a liberal who really believed in what he was doing and stood for his principles and fought for them

So did Hitler and a host of other rotten characters in history. I don't consider this a necessarily good thing. He was a socialist Marxist and I'm glad there's one less with his viewpoint in Congress, but I'm not glad the guy is dead. I can't imagine how devastated his family and friends must be.

46 posted on 10/25/2002 6:05:58 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: TBP
but he was a liberal who really believed in what he was doing and stood for his principles and fought for them

So did Hitler and a host of other rotten characters in history. I don't consider this a necessarily good thing. He was a socialist Marxist and I'm glad there's one less with his viewpoint in Congress, but I'm not glad the guy is dead. I can't imagine how devastated his family and friends must be.

47 posted on 10/25/2002 6:06:39 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: bruin66
This is what a chatter replied to me in a political chat room where I go by the handle of SaphyrB

27 PM: Duke2002 -- Fri, Oct 25 1:05pm PST -----

Michael Dukakis SAPHYR- Wellstone is a martyr, to honor his memory, we must elect Democrats to carry on the causes he beleived in.

48 posted on 10/25/2002 6:09:02 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Don Corleone
the Iron Shiek for senator of Minnesoota.
49 posted on 10/25/2002 6:12:21 PM PDT by ping jockey
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To: Don Corleone
the Iron Sheik for senator from Minnesoota.
50 posted on 10/25/2002 6:15:41 PM PDT by ping jockey
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