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Election 2002: FBI looks into misleading voter calls (Fla. Dems/Poe -prelude to fraud, pt.2)
Associated Press - Naples Daily News ^ | Oct. 31, 2002

Posted on 10/31/2002 8:43:41 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl

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1 posted on 10/31/2002 8:43:41 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I wonder what law that is breaking.
2 posted on 10/31/2002 8:45:59 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Law? What are you talking about? We don't have any election laws. /sarcasm
3 posted on 10/31/2002 8:47:43 AM PST by rintense
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To: summer; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; Goldwater Girl; PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth; redlipstick; ...
FYI. Who called Mr. Poe and told him to vote after the election? (^:
Please let me know if you want on or off my "'til election day" Fla. ping list.
4 posted on 10/31/2002 8:47:46 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Since Poe is involved - I smell a RAT!! Look out fellow FL voters, the RATS are at it again -- trying to steal an election.
5 posted on 10/31/2002 8:49:15 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Both the Republican Party of Florida and the campaign of Republican Gov. Jeb Bush have denied involvement and support an investigation.

The first thing that strikes me is - what's this paragraph doing in there...

6 posted on 10/31/2002 8:49:36 AM PST by Havoc
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I would like to get "ON"

.......Thanks

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7 posted on 10/31/2002 8:51:00 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Help me understand.

Both the Republican Party of Florida and the campaign of Republican Gov. Jeb Bush have denied involvement

So, an important Democratic official (whose title was unknown, but whose party affiliation was clearly known) was asked to vote improperly, long after the deadline, for a Democratic candidate.

And the media takes the step of saying Jeb Bush denies that he us behind this election fraud??

8 posted on 10/31/2002 8:51:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Sir Gawain
IN 5 DAYS, THEY'LL BE VOTING DEMOCRAT

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TODAY TO HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE?

TakeBackCongress.org

A resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in the Senate

9 posted on 10/31/2002 8:51:49 AM PST by ffrancone
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To: Sir Gawain
"Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"....he calls the FBI, lol!

Us mean old Florida Republicans have been accused of just about everything, but even the honest Dems. know who's guilty - the cheating, lying, dirty, swamp rats in charge of the DNC.

10 posted on 10/31/2002 8:52:40 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This doesn't make any sense to me. Poe, the DNC chairman, calls the feds when a supposed Democrat on McBrides campaign called him and urged him to cast votes after Nov. 5? Why would he do that and harm his own party?
11 posted on 10/31/2002 8:53:04 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This smells on top of the Haitian boatload people from Bermuda!

The Clinton RATs will do and say anything to get attention and blame Republicans! They are without conscience!
12 posted on 10/31/2002 8:53:26 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: ClearCase_guy
Exactly. This article is confusing. At first, it makes it sound like the Democrats are at fault. Then, the last line hook you into thinking the Pubbies are at fault. Honestly, I read the article and immediately smelled a RAT.
13 posted on 10/31/2002 8:53:34 AM PST by rintense
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To: Elle Bee
Done. You're welcome. (^:
14 posted on 10/31/2002 8:54:07 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
bump
15 posted on 10/31/2002 8:56:14 AM PST by timestax
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To: Elkiejg
It's quite a simple plan. By casting many dem votes late, that would give the dems something to sue for in court once McBride loses the election, and give the dim's an in to try and steal another election. As a side bonus, it gives them a chance to drag Jeb Bush through the mud and make it look like he's vote tampering. It's a longshot tactic, but obviously nothing is below these dim's who would much rather tear the country apart than lose power.
16 posted on 10/31/2002 8:57:11 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; rintense; summer
This is straight out of the Dummycrat's playbook of dirty tricks, similar to this action up here in Illinois:

KEY BLAGOJEVICH SUPPORT GROUP (UNION) CAUGHT TELLING PEOPLE GEORGE RYAN IS ON THE BALLOT FOR GOV Ryan

17 posted on 10/31/2002 8:58:11 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
add me RC, thanks! V's wife.
18 posted on 10/31/2002 8:58:48 AM PST by ventana
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Wanna bet Poe is making the whole thing up?

Like we all know, Democrats accuse republicans of doing what they've done themselves. If I were investigators, I'd ask Poe if he recorded the call, if he asked who the caller was working for, if he wrote down details of the call, what time of day the call was received, duration. This is something easily verified.

I bet the farm investigators will figure out Poe is going for adversely affecting voters' opinion of republicans..a concerted effort to discredit Governor Bush...how else to explain how quickly Poe got Conyers in on the scam.

19 posted on 10/31/2002 8:59:04 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All
Cross-link:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

And, FYI--

-Need Vote Fraud articles, stories, and evidence? Here's a source--

-Vote... and be D@mned! (vanity, but dead serious)--

20 posted on 10/31/2002 9:00:00 AM PST by backhoe
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To: ClearCase_guy
That's our Florida press. Now you know why a one issue (and a fiscally irresponsible "class-size" issue, at that) Bill McBride's ever been close to our good Gov. Jeb Bush in the polls - yellow (dishonorable) journalism (and Dem. cheating and lying, of course).
21 posted on 10/31/2002 9:00:19 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Space Wrangler
I think the long-shot lawsuit tactics will backfire in the long-term for the Dummy-crats. If they're the ones who are tieing up all the tightly-contested elections by lawsuits, then it's going to eventually become apparent that this kind of behavior is just part and parcel of how they "campaign". The patience of the American populace will run out and the average voter will become disgusted over this.
22 posted on 10/31/2002 9:01:13 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ventana
Done, Mrs. V. (^:
23 posted on 10/31/2002 9:01:53 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Space Wrangler
BINGO!
24 posted on 10/31/2002 9:02:54 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: rintense
"We don't have any election laws. /sarcasm"

Certainly not in the democratic-run counties of Florida.

25 posted on 10/31/2002 9:06:23 AM PST by bcoffey
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Gov. Ventura could bring the democrat scams to a screaming halt by appointing a Republican to serve out Wellstone's term! The democrats would cease and desist their delay/lawsuit/law twisting efforts because such tactics would only extend the Republican majority of this Congress that much longer. HEY JESSE, slam the despotic democrats to the canvas!
26 posted on 10/31/2002 9:07:16 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: YaYa123
Wanna bet Poe is making the whole thing up?

No bet! The article is very bizarre. Was Poe guessing (correctly, imho) that AG Ashcroft would supboena phone records if massive fraud occurs next Tues., and was CYA-ing? Or did he know that the AP reporter would write the story in just this misleading way, with Poe appearing to be the victim, ending with Jeb's "denial" and appearance of blame. It's standard AP MO in Fla. to end political news (even when it's anti-McBride as in the FEA-McBride illegal campaign ads) with a negative comment about Jeb Bush. Swamp Clymers.

27 posted on 10/31/2002 9:09:01 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: PhiKapMom
This smells on top of the Haitian boatload people from Bermuda!

Yes it does. Big Stinky - by the name of Terry McAuliffe?

28 posted on 10/31/2002 9:10:15 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Space Wrangler
More than actually submitting votes late, the Dems are planting the seads for an election challenge after the fact.

How hard can this be to verify? Who doesn't have caller-ID...especially with this guy's connections? If he will simply provide the date and time of the call, investigators should be able to track down the number of the caller.

Investigators are standing by...
29 posted on 10/31/2002 9:10:45 AM PST by pgyanke
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This is what they are doing (The Democrats)Poe, from the DNC "says" he got a call from someone claiming to be with the Mcbride campain asking poe to hold off on sending his ballot in untill after the vote.

The implication is to be that the Republicans made the calls to "Disenfranchise" mcbride voters.

1st step in lawsuits-media push-stolen election fiasco to come AGAIN.

Mark my words!

30 posted on 10/31/2002 9:12:33 AM PST by cody32127
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Why does everyone assume that something like this would be done by a Pubby? It could just as easily have been done by a Rat, given its Publik Educayshun.
31 posted on 10/31/2002 9:13:02 AM PST by Erasmus
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Somebody told the chairman of the Florida DEMOCRAT party to vote AFTER the election?? I smell a RAT...
32 posted on 10/31/2002 9:14:58 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: backhoe
Thanks for the links, backhoe.

AG Ashcroft's not messing around. Perhaps even Poe now knows he's serious. Justice cracks down on voter fraud

Next to learn that this administration means what it says: Saddam Hussein? (^:

33 posted on 10/31/2002 9:16:51 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I agree wholeheartedly, but the dim's (especially under the clintoon/McCaulliffe influence) just don't see things that way. See, they are just trying to save us from ourselves. Us mere citizens don't have the intelligence to vote properly in elections, so they feel it is their duty to 'correct' it, and whether it be by using dead people to vote, or lawers to hold the elections hostage, it's all just a part of their game plan. And they could care less what the citizens think about it. They have their plans for holding onto power, and could care less what the average joe thinks about their tactics. I guess they figure that with their core democRAT voting block, combined with their election fraudsters, it doesn't really matter what you and I or anyone else thinks.
34 posted on 10/31/2002 9:17:32 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"Both the Republican Party of Florida and the campaign of Republican Gov. Jeb Bush have denied involvement and support an investigation."

Oh, THAT'S about as subtle as the Wellstone Memorial Service/Mondale pre-Campaign Rally.

35 posted on 10/31/2002 9:18:42 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
A "Republican" calling people for a Democrat vote? Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?
I sure hope the FBI is investigating the Dem vote here. It sounds like a set up if anything. Politics of personal destruction the Dems are so noted for.
36 posted on 10/31/2002 9:20:40 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Democrats will do anything (lie, cheat, steal, sell out their grandmothers, etc) to get elected. The only thing that matters to them is power.
37 posted on 10/31/2002 9:23:18 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: cody32127
Ping for your #30. We're on to 'em.
38 posted on 10/31/2002 9:46:14 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Erasmus
What the hell are you talking about?
39 posted on 10/31/2002 9:49:43 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I believe the FBI agent received the call. Seeing probable election fraud he investigated by calling Poe to ask a few questions.
40 posted on 10/31/2002 9:56:18 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: cake_crumb
Oh, THAT'S about as subtle as the Wellstone Memorial Service/Mondale pre-Campaign Rally.

The Dem. leadership had better be careful. Over 2/3rds of those polled in Broward County blamed the primary election voting problems on the local (Dem.) election personnel and the Dem. voters - not Jeb Bush.

Our Florida Dems. are family values Dems. who voted for GHW Bush over Clinton in '92, Jeb over McKay in '98 and a Republican majority legislature. Over 20 of the smallest Fla. counties are majority Dem. counties w/ Dem. election personnel who voted for GW - both the first time and after the state mandated (every Fla. county) recount (where only a few votes were added or subtracted).

Most Democrats in Fla. don't come from NY and live in West Palm Beach. The national press and Dem. party still don't understand this....thus the whole post-2000 "election theft" temper tantrum.

41 posted on 10/31/2002 9:58:20 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Just a heads up to you Florida voters. I heard Joe Lockahrt, former Clinton shill, say "this is going to be a very interesting weekend in Florida" on a CNBC program last night.

This strikes me as foreshadowing of some really dirty Democrat trickery planned for this weekend. Maybe a couple more boats from Haiti.

42 posted on 10/31/2002 10:00:09 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Senator_Blutarski
I believe the FBI agent received the call. Seeing probable election fraud he investigated by calling Poe to ask a few questions.

That would be hilarious, but wouldn't that be like asking the fox about the missing chickens? It would also require FBI-Poe-AP collusion-fraud re. this story.

43 posted on 10/31/2002 10:02:58 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Trust but Verify
Thanks for the info, TbV. I just heard on the CBS radio news break that we have a few confirmed cases of ballot stuffing in Fla....no mention of the party. Surprise.

People risk their lives to vote in foreign lands and the DNC makes a mockery of our elections.

Should we poll the troops: "How many of you think that the election is a game?"

The courageous are disenfranchised while the cowardly bullies vote twice. Not this year.

44 posted on 10/31/2002 10:09:38 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Senator_Blutarski
I believe the FBI agent received the call. Seeing probable election fraud he investigated by calling Poe to ask a few questions.

The article is written badly. It's hard to tell who "he" is, but the sentence below states it was Poe who received the call.

Unaware of Poe's position, the man asked the state Democratic chairman to cast his absentee ballot Nov. 10 - five days after Election Day, Poe said.

45 posted on 10/31/2002 10:10:11 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Heck, he probably hired somebody to call him in the hopes that they could make it seem like the Republicans were doing what the 'RATS are so good at...
46 posted on 10/31/2002 10:11:34 AM PST by trebb
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"The Dem. leadership had better be careful. Over 2/3rds of those polled in Broward County blamed the primary election voting problems on the local (Dem.) election personnel and the Dem. voters - not Jeb Bush"

That's really something, coming from one of the counties made famous by the hanging/pregnant/dimpled/whatever chad...but then, maybe becoming the butts of international jokes taught the residents a lesson...

"Most Democrats in Fla. don't come from NY and live in West Palm Beach. The national press and Dem. party still don't understand this....thus the whole post-2000 'election theft' temper tantrum."

Actually, that isn't surprising...most Americans realized that the re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-count fiasco was nothing but left-wing propaganda, bloated large by media hype.

Unfortunately, this and other stuff going on with the DNC controllers of the Florida Democratic party look like the buildup to ANOTHER 'election theft temper tantrum'.

47 posted on 10/31/2002 10:13:10 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: cody32127
Bingo!
48 posted on 10/31/2002 10:13:49 AM PST by F-117A
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To: cake_crumb
We'll do this: Our side found heart, again. (^:
49 posted on 10/31/2002 10:17:59 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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U.S. Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the ranking Democratic member of the Judiciary Committee, wrote U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft on Tuesday asking for an investigation.

If it was going to be a Democrat in trouble you can bet that Conyers wouldn't be pushing for an investigation.
50 posted on 10/31/2002 10:22:33 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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